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vecdran	Posted - 2005.12.06 16:22:00 - [1] I just watched a few titan videos, and am I the only one who finds it absurd to see the titans twitching as they get hit by missiles? It looks fine for battleship class ships and smaller, as it makes some sense for these ships to get moved a bit by the explosions. Capital class ships however, shouldn't be twitching around like I saw. Just a nitpick :P
BoinKlasik	Posted - 2005.12.06 19:04:00 - [2] its especially disturbing that the twitching is so HUGE. Kinda disconcerting honestly.
Kyoko Sakoda	Posted - 2005.12.06 19:07:00 - [3] If you speed up the action, the titans look as if they're dancing! \o/ \\o o// \o> <o/
Megadon	Posted - 2005.12.06 19:30:00 - [4] Yeah it's pretty goofy looking.
MysticNZ	Posted - 2005.12.06 19:38:00 - [5] Originally by: Kyoko Sakoda If you speed up the action, the titans look as if they're dancing! \o/ \\o o// \o> <o/ LOL Originally by: Nyphur I'm hungry and naked. That answer your question?
Commisar	Posted - 2005.12.06 19:39:00 - [6] Space has no gravity thus yes....capital ships MUST be rocked by missiles.
Rebell	Posted - 2005.12.06 19:51:00 - [7] True, but even though without gravity there is no weight, there is still mass. A ship that has the mass of a titan should get almost no noticable impulse due to the change of momentum of a missile impact.
PKlavins	Posted - 2005.12.06 19:56:00 - [8] very true....can someone with a degree in astrophysics come and clear this up once and for all plz? -----------------------------------------------
Avon	Posted - 2005.12.06 19:57:00 - [9] Edited by: Avon on 06/12/2005 19:59:00 Momentum. Edit: That sounded like a pro-movement comment, but it isn't how I meant it. I meant: DO THE SUMS YOURSELF ______________________________________________ The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
vecdran	Posted - 2005.12.06 20:21:00 - [10] Originally by: Commisar Space has no gravity thus yes....capital ships MUST be rocked by missiles. Yes...there is no gravity, but that does not meant a missile hitting center mass on a titan should be causing it's ends to be bouncing up and down several hundred meters ever second.
Kur'Dekaija	Posted - 2005.12.06 20:29:00 - [11] Edited by: Kur''Dekaija on 06/12/2005 20:30:03 Edited by: Kur''Dekaija on 06/12/2005 20:29:45 Just imagine being inside the Titan when the missiles hit
vecdran	Posted - 2005.12.06 20:31:00 - [12] Originally by: Kur'Dekaija Edited by: Kur''Dekaija on 06/12/2005 20:30:03 Edited by: Kur''Dekaija on 06/12/2005 20:29:45 Just imagine being inside the Titan when the missiles hit Let's hope the bridge and your pod are in the center :P I feel sorry for the crew at the ends, they die the instant a Titan goes into combat as they get mashed into red paste.
Zarks	Posted - 2005.12.06 20:35:00 - [13] yes, please remove movement by missiles to any capital ship, it looks really lame tbh. ___________________________________________________ Looking for Chelm/Draclira mega beam lasers plus one pdu. Also looking for cruise launcher II BPO, isk available or trade for 2x Tachyon II BPOs
F4ze	Posted - 2005.12.06 21:08:00 - [14] Originally by: Kur'Dekaija Just imagine being inside the Titan when the missiles hit They probably have inertia dampeners. :)
Commisar	Posted - 2005.12.06 21:10:00 - [15] Originally by: Rebell True, but even though without gravity there is no weight, there is still mass. A ship that has the mass of a titan should get almost no noticable impulse due to the change of momentum of a missile impact. Mass has nothing to do with it WHEN THERE IS NO GRAVITY!!!!! IT HAS NO WEIGHT.....ITS WEIGHLESS!!!!! SPACE VACUME!!!
Commisar	Posted - 2005.12.06 21:11:00 - [16] Edited by: Commisar on 06/12/2005 21:11:52 Originally by: vecdran Originally by: Commisar Space has no gravity thus yes....capital ships MUST be rocked by missiles. Yes...there is no gravity, but that does not meant a missile hitting center mass on a titan should be causing it's ends to be bouncing up and down several hundred meters ever second. It would rock a large spaceship just as much as a small one because they have no weight. Your brain are in "earth physics" mode. Plz fix it
Sobeseki Pawi	Posted - 2005.12.06 21:14:00 - [17] There is no gravity, or there is a minimal amount of it, which is why they SHOULDN'T rock at all. Infact the movement should be precisely inverse to the explosion's location in direct proportion to the explosion's force. A rocket should move a Titan, but not enough to be seen by anything bigger than a micrometer. ~Sobe Originally by: TomB Originally by: Darpz Originally by: Sobeseki Pawi CCP will nerf this probably, but hey, worth a try so your saying I should of kept my mouth shut? Yup.
Sakira LeCastantas	Posted - 2005.12.06 21:15:00 - [18] Originally by: Commisar Edited by: Commisar on 06/12/2005 21:11:52 Originally by: vecdran Originally by: Commisar Space has no gravity thus yes....capital ships MUST be rocked by missiles. Yes...there is no gravity, but that does not meant a missile hitting center mass on a titan should be causing it's ends to be bouncing up and down several hundred meters ever second. It would rock a large spaceship just as much as a small one because they have no weight. Your brain are in "earth physics" mode. Plz fix it mass, the velocity and the mass of a single missle cant provide the energy needed to even move that much mass of a titan a few meters, and yes, even in space, you need energy to move things. otherwise titans could move as fast as frigates _____________________________________________________
Azure Skyclad	Posted - 2005.12.06 21:16:00 - [19] Inertia is a function of mass my old fruit. An object with no weight still has mass. Unless the bang is big enough to overcome the inertia of a bloody big object, it shouldn't move by much at all. http://www.voodoorockers.co.uk/
Zungen	Posted - 2005.12.06 21:16:00 - [20] its eve science! :P if you have to compare it, compare it with star trek or star wars science we dont have shipyards of massive capital ships on earth so do you try to relate it to a game :P spaceships have shields to prevent such things, and the missiles should be hitting into its shields and not moving the ship as the shields protect the ship earth has yet to develop a shield array like spaceships have to protect itself, so compare to star trek or star wars first :P
Commisar	Posted - 2005.12.06 21:19:00 - [21] Edited by: Commisar on 06/12/2005 21:20:57 Originally by: Sobeseki Pawi There is no gravity, or there is a minimal amount of it, which is why they SHOULDN'T rock at all. shockwaves would!!!
Sobeseki Pawi	Posted - 2005.12.06 21:19:00 - [22] Originally by: Zungen earth has yet to develop a shield array like spaceships have to protect itself, so compare to star trek or star wars first :P Actually earth developed one long before it developed us...but I know that isn't what you meant ~Sobe Originally by: TomB Originally by: Darpz Originally by: Sobeseki Pawi CCP will nerf this probably, but hey, worth a try so your saying I should of kept my mouth shut? Yup.
Commisar	Posted - 2005.12.06 21:21:00 - [23] Originally by: Sakira LeCastantas The velocity and the mass of a single missle cant provide the energy needed to even move that much mass of a titan a few meters, and yes, even in space, you need energy to move things. Otherwise titans could move as fast as frigates. Although i dont understand why they put a maxspeed on the ships :) AHRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRG!!!!!1 In space you could use the same rocket booster on a small friagte and a battleship. They would travel withthe exact same speed. Size doesnt matter in space.
Sobeseki Pawi	Posted - 2005.12.06 21:22:00 - [24] Originally by: Commisar Originally by: Sobeseki Pawi There is no gravity, or there is a minimal amount of it, which is why they SHOULDN'T rock at all. shockwave!!! And how do you propose to translate this shock into a wave? Once the initial particle dispersion reaches its zenith, there will cease to be any force enacted upon the vessel. And there will be no wave, because there is no medium through which that wave can be realized. Granted if you bring subspace into the mix, that adds a whole new dimension, literally. ~Sobe Originally by: TomB Originally by: Darpz Originally by: Sobeseki Pawi CCP will nerf this probably, but hey, worth a try so your saying I should of kept my mouth shut? Yup.
Arlech Mygou	Posted - 2005.12.06 21:23:00 - [25] Originally by: Commisar It would rock a large spaceship just as much as a small one because they have no weight. Your brain are in "earth physics" mode. Plz fix it You fail at physics!
Sobeseki Pawi	Posted - 2005.12.06 21:25:00 - [26] Originally by: Commisar Originally by: Sakira LeCastantas The velocity and the mass of a single missle cant provide the energy needed to even move that much mass of a titan a few meters, and yes, even in space, you need energy to move things. Otherwise titans could move as fast as frigates. Although i dont understand why they put a maxspeed on the ships :) AHRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRG!!!!!1 In space you could use the same rocket booster on a small friagte and a battleship. They would travel withthe exact same speed. Size doesnt matter in space. You are quite correct, size does not matter in space. only mass, inertia, and the causative force. ~Sobe Originally by: TomB Originally by: Darpz Originally by: Sobeseki Pawi CCP will nerf this probably, but hey, worth a try so your saying I should of kept my mouth shut? Yup.
Hllaxiu	Posted - 2005.12.06 21:29:00 - [27] Originally by: Sobeseki Pawi You are quite correct, size does not matter in space. only mass, inertia, and the causative force. Sure it does. It matters where you apply the force, especially if you hit something on one end, you have to deal with circular motion then. Well, more accurately all sorts of vector stuff I don't want to think about right now.
Idara	Posted - 2005.12.06 21:29:00 - [28] Originally by: Sobeseki Pawi Originally by: Commisar Originally by: Sakira LeCastantas The velocity and the mass of a single missle cant provide the energy needed to even move that much mass of a titan a few meters, and yes, even in space, you need energy to move things. Otherwise titans could move as fast as frigates. Although i dont understand why they put a maxspeed on the ships :) AHRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRG!!!!!1 In space you could use the same rocket booster on a small friagte and a battleship. They would travel withthe exact same speed. Size doesnt matter in space. You are quite correct, size does not matter in space. only mass, inertia, and the causative force. Pwned by words that make my head hurt... -------------------------------------------------------- Lance Corporal BSC Military
Commisar	Posted - 2005.12.06 21:30:00 - [29] Originally by: Sakira LeCastantas You didn't get my point, obviously, back to school for you
Sobeseki Pawi	Posted - 2005.12.06 21:30:00 - [30] Im not really bothered by the whole rocking thing. I have yet to see anything Eve that is remotely founded in realistic physics as a rule. And since Eve Physics != Terrestrial Physics, they can do it how they want. ~Sobe Originally by: TomB Originally by: Darpz Originally by: Sobeseki Pawi CCP will nerf this probably, but hey, worth a try so your saying I should of kept my mouth shut? Yup.

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