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Wanoah
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Posted - 2005.12.07 01:23:00 -
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Yeah, I was forgetting Burt Rutan. That is significant, I must admit. I often feel that we need more people like him, and more companies that act more like lions than sheep. We live in an increasingly risk-averse society, where corporations are governed by lawyers and accountants where they were once governed by determined visionaries and engineers. Where are the Brunels and the Edisons of our age?
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As for the rejuvenation medics and such, as long as a capitolistic goverment is the world power then there will be no cure because there is no money in it.
Oh, I don't know about that! Look at the vast profit that the cosmetics industry makes every year. The first company that really can stop the aging process, instead of just selling moisturiser that does nothing of the sort (no matter what it says on the label!) will be very rich indeed I think.
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Lygos
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Posted - 2005.12.07 02:47:00 -
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I am not remotely optimistic about small scale commercial forays into space. The capital and manpower required to breach the program sustainability limit is simply too great for any small entrepreneurs.
Additionally, when we start having access to the vast quantities of mineral wealth, coupled with the intense economic isolation of permanent space settlement, notions of property and civil constructs will be forced to adapt or be supplanted.
The only way such a program will begin to happen in our lifetimes is if a new, and large society is founded somewhere with space industrialization as its central and abiding focus in all things institutional.
On a philosophic level, space is not interesting to me. It is merely there. Human beings on the otherhand, are fascinating, and what becomes of them after they recraft the universe in their own image will be both terrible and beautiful to behold
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Tripoli
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Posted - 2005.12.07 05:06:00 -
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I can't remember a point in my life where I didn't love space.
In the third grade I participated in naming the newest space shuttle. The name our little group came up with ended up being the name that was chosen. Turns out that 40% of the submissions received were for the same name. Endeavor.
I also have a star named after me. The International Star Registry
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Maric
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Posted - 2005.12.07 06:39:00 -
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Edited by: Maric on 07/12/2005 06:41:03
Unfortunatly todays economy/technology level of human civlisation is not hi inaf for extencive space exploration/colonisation.
We are just like dreamers from 19th century when balons was hi-tech machines who dream about flying on 2-mach jet fighter.
Economy is the key, not political will or personal enthusiasm. When ppl start making money from space travel without need to invest bilions of $, then real space era begins. Totaly agree that Berth Rutan's eforts are step in right direction. I read about another prizes for making vesel capable to reach orbit and even trip to the moon. Maybe we live long inaf to see it happend.
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MaiLina KaTar
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Posted - 2005.12.07 08:59:00 -
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Originally by: Vyre V'Umbra
I've even had thoughts recently of going out and buying myself a telescope.
I did... and it is quite clearly one of the best investments I've ever made. Nothing beats breathing the cold fresh air of a beautiful night while taking a look at the moon's cratered surface or the beautiful structure of the Orion nebula.
My interest for the stars didn't come from playing Eve though. I started playing because of it and because I've always loved good science fiction.
Originally by: Vyre V'Umbra
Damn this game is good.
True.
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Salusa VC
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Posted - 2005.12.07 09:20:00 -
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Originally by: MaiLina KaTar
Originally by: Vyre V'Umbra
I've even had thoughts recently of going out and buying myself a telescope.
I did... and it is quite clearly one of the best investments I've ever made. Nothing beats breathing the cold fresh air of a beautiful night while taking a look at the moon's cratered surface or the beautiful structure of the Orion nebula.
My interest for the stars didn't come from playing Eve though. I started playing because of it and because I've always loved good science fiction.
Originally by: Vyre V'Umbra
Damn this game is good.
True.
Seconded.
Amateur astronomy can be as addictive as EVE
I remember the first image I saw of Jupiter on my laptap...stunning!
To those that are interested, it was with a Starlight Xpress MX-5C CCD Camera through a 10" LX200.
Now if I could just find time for EVE, family, work and astronomy I would be a happy chap.
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Lenil Star
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Posted - 2005.12.07 10:51:00 -
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Originally by: Lizan
in the post-nuclear war barren wastelands? 
Not really,as the nukes will start flying around near 2070 when there will be no oil left and water will be rare.
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Andrue
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Posted - 2005.12.07 12:10:00 -
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Edited by: Andrue on 07/12/2005 12:10:42
Originally by: MaiLina KaTar
Originally by: Vyre V'Umbra
I've even had thoughts recently of going out and buying myself a telescope.
I did... and it is quite clearly one of the best investments I've ever made. Nothing beats breathing the cold fresh air of a beautiful night while taking a look at the moon's cratered surface or the beautiful structure of the Orion nebula.
Light pollution ftl :(
I spent two weeks in America last month and two days were spent outside Yosemite near Mono Lake. I made a point of going out one night and taking a look at the stars.
Anyone else who like me lives near large urban centres (ie;most of Northern Europe) is missing out on so much. I live in a small rural town in the UK and the most stars I've seen at one time is about a dozen. What I saw that night was thousands of stars and the Milky Way.
It's sad what so many of us are missing.
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[Brackley, UK]
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lythos miralbar
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Posted - 2005.12.07 12:43:00 -
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the one major restricting feature of cheap sustainable space flight is a cheap, abundent and powerfull source of energy.
Im not talking about ion-thrusters, solar sails or that kind namby pamby stuff. I mean something good like nuclear powered rockets or better.
There was/is a project to produce a workable nuclear powered rocked called "NERVA" (google it for more info). Now that would be ok for inter-planetry stuff like mars, but we can do soooo much better.
At the bleeding edge your really looking for an anti-matter power source, then you can generate SERIOUS ammounts of power and potentialy mess with things like folding space and stuff.
Boffins have actualy created antimatter in high energy colisions inside particle accelerators and there has even been an antimatter containment system devised to store the stuff in (yes it does work).
It is a BIG leap though from developing this kind of thing, through to mass produced antimatter (on ship generated antimatter), and some kind of antimatter powered propulsion system.
Huge advances in material science have also benn made recenntly, with it now being possible to produce carbon related materials 100's X stronger and lighter than the toughest steel.
Rest assured though, it WILL happen, no doubt about it. There are some DAMM clever people in this world.
go back 100 years and show someone somethng as simple as a mobile phone, or an mp3 player, or hell even the battery inside it and they'll go "WTF???!?!?!?!"
Think what the next 100 years will bring.....
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Maric
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Posted - 2005.12.07 13:11:00 -
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Originally by: Lenil Star
Not really,as the nukes will start flying around near 2070 when there will be no oil left and water will be rare.
Not likely. By the time when no oil there will be other power sources. If not Fusion, then orbital solar power plants. With cheaper energy it will be more common extracting drinking water from sea. Food producting is diferent issue, but I am optimist.
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Maric
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Posted - 2005.12.07 13:21:00 -
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Originally by: lythos miralbar
go back 100 years and show someone somethng as simple as a mobile phone, or an mp3 player, or hell even the battery inside it and they'll go "WTF???!?!?!?!"
Think what the next 100 years will bring.....
There is a one impotant diference between mobile phone and antimater rocket:
Mobile phone makes profit, antimater rocket (if someone build it) do not.
Next 100 years will bring many exiting thing that makes money. I hope space colonisation will be one of them.
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