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Ctaesis
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Posted - 2003.08.13 19:19:00 -
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You're basically just giving money to the person. When are you going to learn?
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Zakura
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Posted - 2003.08.13 21:21:00 -
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You're basically just giving money to the person. When are you going to learn?
how? .. I mean if u demand a screenshot of him getting blown up - can be hard to just fake.
Okey u CAN fake the screenshot - but what about the body? .. if he got much skill points, he must buy an expensive clone ..
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.08.13 22:25:00 -
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Edited by: j0sephine on 13/08/2003 22:25:19
"When are you going to learn?"
... Perhaps soon after you notice how many of the official bounties have been active for weeks, yet for some strange reason none of the pirates bothered to pick up this easy cash?.. :s
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Photon
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Posted - 2003.08.14 00:05:00 -
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high bounties are status symbols for the pirates :) but they may also be cha-ching for bounty hunters some times hehe
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Amicus
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Posted - 2003.08.14 01:27:00 -
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Bounty prices are low because most people agree with you Ctaesis. Because the bounties are low, bounty hunting for tough targets is not worth the costs involved. If bounties are supposed to be the primary method of criminal law enforcement in this game, then they are way broken.
It is true that bounty targets have little incentive to cash in bounties at their current levels. Bounties must at least top the price of a good clone before they start to tempt the target to take the trouble of cashing it in him or herself. Furthermore, bounties do provide status for a pirate. So right now, the bounty system is the pirate's friend. At their current low levels the bounties provide nearly risk-free status symbols for pirates. Indeed, I noted at least one player who was accused of posting her own bounty, just to give herself status. If a bounty ever rises high enough to create a real threat to the target, the target can simply cash it in for profit and to grief the players who posted it.
I suggest that bounty targets with security ratings of less than -5.0 should have to pay a fee equal to twice the amount of their bounty to use an advanced clone at the time of their death.
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Ortt
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Posted - 2003.08.14 03:27:00 -
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For a bounty to mean something, it must prevent your security rating from rising until discharged, and it must make you attackable regardless of the security rating of the system.
For a security rating to mean anything, it must affect the price you pay to get a good clone. Low security rating = very high clone price, high security rating = very low clone price, then you dn't benefit from cashing in your current clone for your bounty.
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Kimi
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Posted - 2003.08.14 04:43:00 -
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Ortt, you are right. Right now bounties don't mean much. Until there are some negative consequences for being a bad person, it will simply be a status symbol.
I don't expect the situation to last forever though. Right now there is little incentive for the bigger corps with multitudes of battleships to move out into the dangerous areas on a permanent basis. But when that time comes a pirates life will get much more difficult.
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Athule Snanm
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Posted - 2003.08.14 08:40:00 -
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Talking from experience Ctaesis?
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So ya, I've got a good clone. I think I'll just claim this free cash.
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Indira Firebrand
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Posted - 2003.08.14 08:57:00 -
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For a bounty to mean something, it must prevent your security rating from rising until discharged, and it must make you attackable regardless of the security rating of the system.
so whats to prevent griefers from just adding a bounty to any ole player and therefore messing up their gameplay. I see obvious possibilities for harrassment with that idea.
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azrael211
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Posted - 2003.08.14 10:54:00 -
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Quote:
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For a bounty to mean something, it must prevent your security rating from rising until discharged, and it must make you attackable regardless of the security rating of the system.
so whats to prevent griefers from just adding a bounty to any ole player and therefore messing up their gameplay. I see obvious possibilities for harrassment with that idea.
Hmm I dont think u can put a bounty on someone unless they have a -2 or worst security status.
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Kimi
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Posted - 2003.08.14 12:24:00 -
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"so whats to prevent griefers from just adding a bounty to any ole player and therefore messing up their gameplay. I see obvious possibilities for harrassment with that idea..."
If you see that, then you need to play a bit more 
You cannot put a bounty on anyone with better than a -1.0 sec rating.
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Ywev
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Posted - 2003.08.14 19:04:00 -
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I am sure if that dude with the 30 million isk bounty ever logged on, I would be heading over there to kill his lil ass. I could use a cool 30 mil. Us, pirates like when newbies place bounties on themselves, its free money, and yes the bounty system is a status ordeal.
Pod ya later..
Ywev
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Zell
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Posted - 2003.08.14 19:19:00 -
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...you and 19 of your closest friends, you mean..
"A coward dies a thousand times, the brave die just once.." |
Ywev
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Posted - 2003.08.14 19:24:00 -
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no, I am sure its some miner in a ibis.
Pod ya later..
Ywev
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Zell
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Posted - 2003.08.14 20:46:00 -
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oooh excuse me..
10 of your closest friends..
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Shock
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Posted - 2003.08.14 21:52:00 -
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Furthermore, bounties do provide status for a pirate. So right now, the bounty system is the pirate's friend. At their current low levels the bounties provide nearly risk-free status symbols for pirates.
Resulting in some of them only griefing in order to get a higher bounty.
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Cattraknoff
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Posted - 2003.08.14 23:08:00 -
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Edited by: Cattraknoff on 14/08/2003 23:09:00
Edited by: Cattraknoff on 14/08/2003 23:08:37
here's an idea, concord should place money on pirates every day until killed
like 10k a day when ur -5
20k a day when ur -8
35k a day when ur -9
50k a day when ur -9.5 or lower
it would be more worthwhile for a bounty hunter
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Cattraknoff
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Posted - 2003.08.14 23:10:00 -
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You're basically just giving money to the person. When are you going to learn?
how? .. I mean if u demand a screenshot of him getting blown up - can be hard to just fake.
Okey u CAN fake the screenshot - but what about the body? .. if he got much skill points, he must buy an expensive clone ..
highest a clone is guna cost u right now is a mill
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Lem0nparty
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.09.18 19:45:00 -
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looking at this thread makes me sad monkey
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Shar'Tuk TheHated
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Posted - 2007.09.18 19:48:00 -
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Whats that smell?!?
DRINK RUM It fights scurvy & boosts morale!
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Shar'Tuk TheHated
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Posted - 2007.09.18 19:49:00 -
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Originally by: Cattraknoff
Edited by: Cattraknoff on 14/08/2003 23:09:00
Edited by: Cattraknoff on 14/08/2003 23:08:37
here's an idea, concord should place money on pirates every day until killed
like 10k a day when ur -5
20k a day when ur -8
35k a day when ur -9
50k a day when ur -9.5 or lower
it would be more worthwhile for a bounty hunter
This however, was a fantastic idea. Now where is that lock?
DRINK RUM It fights scurvy & boosts morale!
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Taedrin
Gallente
Magellan Exploration and Survey
Zzz
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Posted - 2007.09.18 20:09:00 -
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Edited by: Taedrin on 18/09/2007 20:13:31
Would be simpler to attach bounties to ships, and not to pods. Pods are cheap. T2 fitted battleships are not.
EDIT: Whoa, didn't even notice this was a necro.
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The Jam
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Posted - 2007.09.18 20:13:00 -
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You just now figured that out. Bountys have been a waste of time for awhile now.
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Shar'Tuk TheHated
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Posted - 2007.09.18 20:43:00 -
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Originally by: Taedrin
Edited by: Taedrin on 18/09/2007 20:13:31
Would be simpler to attach bounties to ships, and not to pods. Pods are cheap. T2 fitted battleships are not.
EDIT: Whoa, didn't even notice this was a necro.
Yeah but rookie ships are not. Pods do get pricey after a while along with implants but all together its far 2 exploitable after thinking about it. In twice before the lock. Im so quick and wile.
DRINK RUM It fights scurvy & boosts morale!
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Izo Azlion
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.09.18 21:08:00 -
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Edited by: Izo Azlion on 18/09/2007 21:08:33
They're a great way to honour lost friends.
But yes, widely, they are relatively useless.
Izo Azlion.
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Rudy Metallo
The Bastards
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Posted - 2007.09.18 21:11:00 -
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Originally by: Kimi
Ortt, you are right. Right now bounties don't mean much. Until there are some negative consequences for being a bad person, it will simply be a status symbol.
I don't expect the situation to last forever though. Right now there is little incentive for the bigger corps with multitudes of battleships to move out into the dangerous areas on a permanent basis. But when that time comes a pirates life will get much more difficult.
Because not being able to buy anything in high-sec and the ability to shoot me anywhere you want without reprussions from anything besides me isnt anough, right?
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Shar'Tuk TheHated
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Posted - 2007.09.19 03:46:00 -
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This said in 2003 and still is true to this day. Maybe they should revisit bountys eh?  4th
DRINK RUM It fights scurvy & boosts morale!
THE BEATINGS WILL CONTINUE UNTIL MORALE IMPROVES! |
gettosmurf
Gallente
Kingfisher Industries
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Posted - 2007.09.19 12:43:00 -
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NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEECRO
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Strife Phoenix
Acerbus Vindictum
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Posted - 2007.09.19 13:06:00 -
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I want forum pruning :(
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Karlemgne
The Malevolent
The Red Skull
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Posted - 2007.09.20 04:50:00 -
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Edited by: Karlemgne on 20/09/2007 04:50:46
Originally by: Cattraknoff
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You're basically just giving money to the person. When are you going to learn?
how? .. I mean if u demand a screenshot of him getting blown up - can be hard to just fake.
Okey u CAN fake the screenshot - but what about the body? .. if he got much skill points, he must buy an expensive clone ..
highest a clone is guna cost u right now is a mill
Yeah, except if I am a low-sec empire pirate, with no jump-clones, and a low grade slave set, I'm not going to pod myself for anything less than a 700 million isk bounty.
Most pirates use implants guys. There are ways around this with jump clones, for sure, but most pirates don't have access to jump clones.
To be perfectly honest, there just isn't a lot of pirates podding themselves for their bounties.
-Karlemgne
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Avaricia
The Accursed
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Posted - 2007.09.20 08:04:00 -
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Originally by: Karlemgne
Yeah, except if I am a low-sec empire pirate, with no jump-clones, and a low grade slave set, I'm not going to pod myself for anything less than a 700 million isk bounty.
Most pirates use implants guys. There are ways around this with jump clones, for sure, but most pirates don't have access to jump clones.
To be perfectly honest, there just isn't a lot of pirates podding themselves for their bounties.
Exactly. Pirates don't typically have the NPC standings to install jumpclones. I'm sure many have old jumpclones or joined jumpclone corps or 0.0 access or whatever, but I'm pretty sure of the fact that an equal number do not.
Combine this with the fact that a bounty really is a status symbol, and you don't get as many as you might think podding themselves. We get our e-peens, anti-pirates get their targets, everyone wins. Except of course the original gankees who placed the bounty in the first place, but they're not really people anyway
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Krist Valentine
Amarr
Freelancing Opportunists
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Posted - 2007.09.20 11:39:00 -
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Originally by: Cattraknoff
Edited by: Cattraknoff on 14/08/2003 23:09:00
Edited by: Cattraknoff on 14/08/2003 23:08:37
here's an idea, concord should place money on pirates every day until killed
like 10k a day when ur -5
20k a day when ur -8
35k a day when ur -9
50k a day when ur -9.5 or lower
it would be more worthwhile for a bounty hunter
That's a really good idea. I like it :]
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Karlemgne
The Malevolent
The Red Skull
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Posted - 2007.09.20 18:21:00 -
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Wow a 2003 necro, and I didn't even notice until now.
My guess is, guys, that the bounty system is never going to be changed. :)
-Karl
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memotype
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.09.20 18:21:00 -
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We need transferable kill rights.
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Dapanman1
Amarr
Beets and Gravy Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.09.21 03:55:00 -
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Edited by: Dapanman1 on 21/09/2007 03:58:49
Originally by: Lem0nparty
looking at this thread makes me sad monkey
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Andrew DUHHUH
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Posted - 2007.09.21 17:57:00 -
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Originally by: memotype
We need transferable kill rights.
Honestly, why do you need transferable kill rights? I mean it would make sense killing a high sec-status char but for a pirate? You can shoot them anywhere at any time.
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Avery Fatwallet
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Posted - 2007.09.21 23:17:00 -
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1) sorry for contributing to the necro. but while were at it...
2) bounties are a great way to give your friends some free interaction with new players! just pay 5k to get your friend this lil skull in the overview.
theyll be convoed, shot at and generally will have some concordokken action to watch, when they happen to hang around starter areas.
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Melchiorre
Infestation.
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Posted - 2007.09.22 18:02:00 -
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The great thing about a bounty is taking one of someone.
Yes they are a badge of pride, but having one also makes the game even more of a rush because you have more to lose, or more to gain, dependent on if your the killer or the victim.
Say yes to bounties
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