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Gizmo Karkhand
Internet Terrorists Rebel Alliance of New Eden
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Posted - 2013.07.10 10:40:00 -
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http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/eve-online-skill-reimbursement-battlecrusers/ <<< GO TO HERE AND SIGN UP FOR THE PETITION
http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/the-great-skill-change-of-blessed-2013/
Well People of New Eden Players Of EvE-Online If you have played eve for a long time and this CCP shuld Reimbursement you with 6 Million Sp Points Sign this Protest And Hope for the best
The story behind it is i am playing eve on and off from 2008 Because of Real Life Issues (Army- As and combat soldier) Was off for a year from EvE - Because Didnt have a PC around Me CCP Games Decided to do a Major change in the Way the Skill for Battlecrusers & Destroyer work it has now splitted to 8 now you have to train for 8 skills to leve 5 insted of 2
the thing is they forgot to emal players that are gone for a while now most of the people returning to the game are stuck with a training for 150 days + insted of a month max
Dear CCP Reimbursement Every Player That was registered before that date you decided to do the change or at least give out skill points for the extra days
Thank you
If you guys think i am right that they shuld have sent an Email few months before the major change CCP needs to give good Customer service and this is the way
Please sign up and lets hope for the best for every one of us Please share with everyone your corp your alliance and everyone you know in eve thank you |
RaTTuS
BIG Insidious Empire
296
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Posted - 2013.07.10 10:42:00 -
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Rubbish, if you could fly it before you can still fly it you could not fly the others so you have not lost anything
all other info is just whine and you want more cheese http://eveboard.com/ub/419190933-134.png http://imgur.com/nuBlxbC |
Luci Ambrye
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.10 10:44:00 -
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was actually going to post something along the same lines as RaTTuS. |
Gizmo Karkhand
Internet Terrorists Rebel Alliance of New Eden
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Posted - 2013.07.10 10:48:00 -
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well its not rubbish ccp shuld inform you before they make major changes 2 skills that would take 30-40 days max is now devided into 8 i dont think its rubbish and yes its now total waste of time to cross train into other BC and yes people have real life issues and need to do things for thair country so its important that a game you pay for Gives you a Email few months before they do major changes to the game and inform you about the change am i right or wrong i had only Email on my phone ***** internet in the desert while in the army at least i would get an email i would tell some one at home to set up all the skills needed before the change |
Nightshade Mary
Sarz'na Khumatari The Unthinkables
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Posted - 2013.07.10 10:52:00 -
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When you are not subscribed, you are not a customer. The fact that you're a soldier out on deployment; I applaud you for your dedication to keep the world safe. It doesn't however change the initial statement.
Customers were given ample warning of the upcoming changes.
CCP is friendly enough to store your characters and possessions for you whilst you are NOT a customer, that is a nice bonus. That is as far as it goes though.
Like RaTTuS posted; if you could fly it before, you can now. No harm done.
Seriously, there is no need for "free stuff" here.
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RaTTuS
BIG Insidious Empire
300
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Posted - 2013.07.10 10:54:00 -
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you cannot get anyone else to run skills for you it is against the EULA
and you where away for over a year with no access to the internet to see what was happening. - I don't believe you
http://eveboard.com/ub/419190933-134.png http://imgur.com/nuBlxbC |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
394
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Posted - 2013.07.10 10:55:00 -
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Gizmo Karkhand wrote: Because of Real Life Issues (Army- As and combat soldier)
Even Blizzard changes the game while service people are away -- and majorly -- and doesn't reimburse them.
My main had to stop tradeskill training to level Battlecruisers V and Warfare links to IV for Command ships, and all the side skills to do so (42 days of tradeskill training lost). Didn't like it, but the alternative was having to train additional Battlecruisers and spend another 40 days leveling warfare links to fly anything but a cruiser, too. So even if folks were here, they had to suffer regardless. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Anna Djan
Banana Corp
52
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Posted - 2013.07.10 10:55:00 -
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Gizmo Karkhand wrote:well its not rubbish ccp shuld inform you before they make major changes 2 skills that would take 30-40 days max is now devided into 8 i dont think its rubbish and yes its now total waste of time to cross train into other BC and yes people have real life issues and need to do things for thair country so its important that a game you pay for Gives you a Email few months before they do major changes to the game and inform you about the change am i right or wrong i had only Email on my phone ***** internet in the desert while in the army at least i would get an email i would tell some one at home to set up all the skills needed before the change
I'm pretty sure the announcements for the SP changes we detailed extensively across multiple newsletters.
Are you saying you do not get a news letter if not subscribed? or that you chose NOT to have the newsletter by unsubscribing from it in account options?
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Gizmo Karkhand
Internet Terrorists Rebel Alliance of New Eden
0
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Posted - 2013.07.10 10:55:00 -
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Nightshade Mary wrote:When you are not subscribed, you are not a customer. The fact that you're a soldier out on deployment; I applaud you for your dedication to keep the world safe. It doesn't however change the initial statement. Customers were given ample warning of the upcoming changes. CCP is friendly enough to store your characters and possessions for you whilst you are NOT a customer, that is a nice bonus. That is as far as it goes though. Like RaTTuS posted; if you could fly it before, you can now. No harm done. Seriously, there is no need for "free stuff" here. its not about free stuff its about an example if you wrere able to train in less days for other BC whole lot less now its like same skill x4 on bc and x4 destroyer that is not funny |
Hessian Arcturus
S.W.O.R.D. Navy
266
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Posted - 2013.07.10 10:57:00 -
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I remember getting an email about "The great ship change of 2013" was in one of the news letters or a dev blog or something that definitly got emailed my way.
Not to mention it was plastered all over the game for months...Months!!! Yes you were away, and couldn't play. So if you were not playing it didn't effect you until after you got back. Not to mention, if you could fly it before, you can fly it now... It's human nature to want to explore. To find your line and go beyond it. The only limit, is the one you set yourself. |
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Christopher AET
Segmentum Solar Nulli Secunda
480
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Posted - 2013.07.10 10:58:00 -
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CCP did inform you. The dev blogs are available for everyone to read. I drain ducks of their moisture for sustenance. |
Gizmo Karkhand
Internet Terrorists Rebel Alliance of New Eden
0
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Posted - 2013.07.10 10:59:00 -
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Anna Djan wrote:Gizmo Karkhand wrote:well its not rubbish ccp shuld inform you before they make major changes 2 skills that would take 30-40 days max is now devided into 8 i dont think its rubbish and yes its now total waste of time to cross train into other BC and yes people have real life issues and need to do things for thair country so its important that a game you pay for Gives you a Email few months before they do major changes to the game and inform you about the change am i right or wrong i had only Email on my phone ***** internet in the desert while in the army at least i would get an email i would tell some one at home to set up all the skills needed before the change I'm pretty sure the announcements for the SP changes we detailed extensively across multiple newsletters. Are you saying you do not get a news letter if not subscribed? or that you chose NOT to have the newsletter by unsubscribing from it in account options?
well not really seen all the newsletters by ccp and its not unsuscribed because i was updated by newsletters but not with the important information i think a 2 month warning news letter had to been sent to all users
as some say down here they had to suffer 42 days of tranining but trust me 154 days its now same skill took less time i think its not right |
Rengerel en Distel
1681
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:00:00 -
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As others have said, you didn't lose anything, you just didn't gain things that people playing the game did. They announced the changes 2 fan fests ago I believe, with something like 18 months notice. They can hardly be expected to do more than they did. Your post that you would willfully break the EULA and cheat for some SP gain for ships that you weren't even flying doesn't help your case.
With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
963
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:01:00 -
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Sory dude but Eve/CCP life goes on with or without you, you'll have to man up and deal with. *removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |
Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
360
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:02:00 -
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It was announced for a long time in varied ways including newsletters.
But wait a second, I haven't played AoC in over a year... They have created some new tokens! Quick! I must go there and file a petition so I get all the stuffz. Blog: http://aidanbrooder.wordpress.com My EVE YouTube Vids (most recent): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2alSWxXQbI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SEzNNYSlDE |
Tobias Hareka
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:02:00 -
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http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/9129
Check the date.
Yes, that's over a year ago. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Balius and Xanthus Traditional Gunsmiths
10010
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:03:00 -
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Not this again, the simple answer is that CCP widely published the skill changes for a considerable period of time, and no you won't get your SP reimbursed, I like many others changed skill plans to take advantage of the changes and that was a time sink I could have done without at the time, but I'm glad that I did.
"Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad." |
Jack Morrison
Sinister Spinster
1
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:04:00 -
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I don't want to sound harsh, but you are in the army, deployed somewhere. Unless you are a cook you get a nice chance to be shot at. Then you come back (hopefully still healthy and in 1 piece) and this makes you butthurt enough to start a petition ? Seriously ? You can still fly the ships . Some ships are now easier to get into and some got a bit higher / changed requirements. So ? Hardly worth mentioning unless you want to fly everything (and that will take some time anyway). If it is not worth training for you now, then leave it and move to some other ship (type) . |
Gizmo Karkhand
Internet Terrorists Rebel Alliance of New Eden
0
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:04:00 -
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Christopher AET wrote:CCP did inform you. The dev blogs are available for everyone to read. Dev blogs yes but if you have good internet you can read stuff right in the middle of the desert you dont have good internet you only get email and mostly you dont download images just read the text :) i think i am right in a way of old players getting skill reimburstment cause its not the issue its the issue that now i have to tran all bc skils to 5 ad all take 26 days + the same skill would have taken me 26 days before how you guys can ignore the fact that i am trying to fight for the players you guys insted are pointing out names on me :) want cheese and stuff like that |
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
963
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:06:00 -
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Gizmo Karkhand wrote:well not really seen all the newsletters by ccp and its not unsuscribed because i was updated by newsletters but not with the important information i think a 2 month warning news letter had to been sent to all users
It's not because you "think they should" that you are right, every one in this game could watch fanfest videos read comments and forum threads for over a year about this specific change.
You got away for a year for whatever professional or personal reason no one should care except one point: happy to know you got safe back home
For everything else please stop moaning.
Edit: what I'm trying to say is simple, the fact you can't or couldn't do whatever in the middle of the desert but keep you ass safe is one thing, complaining you couldn't play your favorite game and that you should get a bonus for having a sandy ass at this point, sry not gonna happen for that reason or another and you should think a bit about it before blindly insist. *removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |
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Lugalbandak
Anunnaku Industrial Corp. Northern Associates.
9
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:06:00 -
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Gizmo Karkhand wrote:well its not rubbish ccp shuld inform you before they make major changes 2 skills that would take 30-40 days max is now devided into 8 i dont think its rubbish and yes its now total waste of time to cross train into other BC and yes people have real life issues and need to do things for thair country so its important that a game you pay for Gives you a Email few months before they do major changes to the game and inform you about the change am i right or wrong i had only Email on my phone ***** internet in the desert while in the army at least i would get an email i would tell some one at home to set up all the skills needed before the change
ccp did inform many times , try to read dev blog en news sites , you live under a rock?
Also if you play from 2008 off and on , thats not a long time
can i haz your stuff please? |
gregory Chieve
mss industry
0
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:07:00 -
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Props to a very respectable career and sorry you missed out
You can check devblogs etc via slowternet on a mobile phone, things will change ingame and people will always miss out.
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Nightshade Mary
Sarz'na Khumatari The Unthinkables
19
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:08:00 -
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Gizmo Karkhand wrote:Nightshade Mary wrote:When you are not subscribed, you are not a customer. The fact that you're a soldier out on deployment; I applaud you for your dedication to keep the world safe. It doesn't however change the initial statement. Customers were given ample warning of the upcoming changes. CCP is friendly enough to store your characters and possessions for you whilst you are NOT a customer, that is a nice bonus. That is as far as it goes though. Like RaTTuS posted; if you could fly it before, you can now. No harm done. Seriously, there is no need for "free stuff" here. its not about free stuff its about an example if you wrere able to train in less days for other BC whole lot less now its like same skill x4 on bc and x4 destroyer that is not funny
If, before the changes you could fly all BC and Destroyers, you can after the change.
If, you could not, you still cannot.
Plain and simple. |
Sarmatiko
1257
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:08:00 -
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Tobias Hareka wrote:http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/9129 Check the date. Yes, that's over a year ago.
It also looks like OP was active on that period in EVE:
Quote:Hawk-Tech LTD [HTLTD] from 2012.06.03 01:33 to 2013.05.31 15:39. Viziam [VI] from 2012.06.03 01:26 to 2012.06.03 01:33. Aces 'N' Eights [AAA88] from 2012.05.25 22:24 to 2012.06.03 01:26. Viziam [VI] from 2012.05.25 22:15 to 2012.05.25 22:24. Hawk-Tech LTD [HTLTD] from 2012.04.07 14:14 to 2012.05.25 22:15. Viziam [VI] from 2012.04.07 14:09 to 2012.04.07 14:14. We are here [WTHF] from 2011.12.10 21:55 to 2012.04.07 14:09.
Gizmo Karkhand wrote:Christopher AET wrote:CCP did inform you. The dev blogs are available for everyone to read. Dev blogs yes but if you have good internet you can read stuff right in the middle of the desert you dont have good internet you only get email and mostly you dont download images just read the text :) Riiiigh, "in the middle of the desert" just joining/leaving corps but cant read devblog about skill changes. -¥ |
Jack Morrison
Sinister Spinster
1
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:08:00 -
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Gizmo Karkhand wrote:Christopher AET wrote:CCP did inform you. The dev blogs are available for everyone to read. Dev blogs yes but if you have good internet you can read stuff right in the middle of the desert you dont have good internet you only get email and mostly you dont download images just read the text :) i think i am right in a way of old players getting skill reimburstment cause its not the issue its the issue that now i have to tran all bc skils to 5 ad all take 26 days + the same skill would have taken me 26 days before how you guys can ignore the fact that i am trying to fight for the players you guys insted are pointing out names on me :) want cheese and stuff like that
Nobody questions your goals, it is nice to step up for others, but most of us just dont share your opinion.
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baltec1
Bat Country
7251
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:08:00 -
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I got all the new SP and all it got me was a bigger clone cost. |
Gizmo Karkhand
Internet Terrorists Rebel Alliance of New Eden
0
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:09:00 -
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Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:Gizmo Karkhand wrote:well not really seen all the newsletters by ccp and its not unsuscribed because i was updated by newsletters but not with the important information i think a 2 month warning news letter had to been sent to all users It's not because you "think they should" that you are right, every one in this game could watch fanfest videos read comments and forum threads for over a year about this specific change. You got away for a year for whatever professional or personal reason no one should care except one point: happy to know you got safe back home For everything else please stop moaning.
not moaning just pissed its not right its in the ccp benifit to make skills longer its 150 days its 5 * 15 USD = 75$ just that ccp is greedy for more money thats all i want to point lol
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Anna Djan
Banana Corp
52
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:09:00 -
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Gizmo Karkhand wrote:Anna Djan wrote:Gizmo Karkhand wrote:well its not rubbish ccp shuld inform you before they make major changes 2 skills that would take 30-40 days max is now devided into 8 i dont think its rubbish and yes its now total waste of time to cross train into other BC and yes people have real life issues and need to do things for thair country so its important that a game you pay for Gives you a Email few months before they do major changes to the game and inform you about the change am i right or wrong i had only Email on my phone ***** internet in the desert while in the army at least i would get an email i would tell some one at home to set up all the skills needed before the change I'm pretty sure the announcements for the SP changes we detailed extensively across multiple newsletters. Are you saying you do not get a news letter if not subscribed? or that you chose NOT to have the newsletter by unsubscribing from it in account options? well not really seen all the newsletters by ccp and its not unsuscribed because i was updated by newsletters but not with the important information i think a 2 month warning news letter had to been sent to all users as some say down here they had to suffer 42 days of tranining but trust me 154 days its now same skill took less time i think its not right
I'm confused. So they announced the changes for over a year in multiple news letters, which you received. But because you didn't read the newsletters, it's CCP fault for not sending you an additional email which you may or may not of read for you not to skill up D5 and B5?
I think the problem is between the chair and the desk. |
Rengerel en Distel
1681
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:09:00 -
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Gizmo Karkhand wrote:Christopher AET wrote:CCP did inform you. The dev blogs are available for everyone to read. Dev blogs yes but if you have good internet you can read stuff right in the middle of the desert you dont have good internet you only get email and mostly you dont download images just read the text :) i think i am right in a way of old players getting skill reimburstment cause its not the issue its the issue that now i have to tran all bc skils to 5 ad all take 26 days + the same skill would have taken me 26 days before how you guys can ignore the fact that i am trying to fight for the players you guys insted are pointing out names on me :) want cheese and stuff like that
No, we're just telling you that you're wrong. There is no reason you have to train for every destroyer and BC to level 5. You obviously didn't before, so it's your choice now. You also don't get reimbursement for changes to the game that took place while you were gone. Are you also going to petition because you didn't get a chance to buy a procurer for 2M isk, or that battleships cost more now, so you should get isk reimbursed because you didn't buy them when they were cheaper, etc.?
With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
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Norian Lonark
Black Thorne Corporation The Cursed Few
82
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:10:00 -
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Everyone was informed by CCP
Its not CCPs fault that you didn't know what was happening, they sent newsletters, gave dev blogs, forum posts well in advance and if people are not able to login or play the game for a year for whatever reason again CCP are not responsible.
I most definitely wont be signing a petition for something which is a whine about absolutely nothing.
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