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Spartan III
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Posted - 2005.12.07 04:45:00 -
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can someone please go onto sisi and tell me what the skills are that are required for the 2 amarr commmand ships?
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- Jamie (Aka) Spartan III
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Idara
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Posted - 2005.12.07 04:51:00 -
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Absolution
Damnation
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BillyBong2
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Posted - 2005.12.07 04:54:00 -
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The damnation look sweet!
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Spartan III
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Posted - 2005.12.07 04:58:00 -
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THANK YOU!
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- Jamie (Aka) Spartan III
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Idara
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Posted - 2005.12.07 05:00:00 -
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Spartan III
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Posted - 2005.12.07 05:03:00 -
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With stats like that the abolution is basicaly like a bigger badder better(but slightly slower) zealot right?
So will it be able to solo all level 4 missions, and do it with style?
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- Jamie (Aka) Spartan III
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Idara
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Posted - 2005.12.07 05:05:00 -
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That's my reasoning as well. Especially with a 5% Damage and ROF bonus, that'll be able to throw out some nice damage.
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Necrologic
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Posted - 2005.12.07 05:05:00 -
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 Originally by: Spartan III
With stats like that the abolution is basicaly like a bigger badder better(but slightly slower) zealot right?
So will it be able to solo all level 4 missions, and do it with style?
I'll be surprised if you can't.
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Spartan III
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Posted - 2005.12.07 05:07:00 -
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Been training for HACs just so I would be ready to train this baby :)
I shall be the ULTIMATE LEVEL 4 MISSION PWNMOBILE PILOT ONE DAY!!!!!
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- Jamie (Aka) Spartan III
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Spartan III
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Posted - 2005.12.07 05:12:00 -
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Gatta go to bed now but i will end with saying this ship has 50% more damage potential than the zealot . WOOT!!!1!11!!!!
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- Jamie (Aka) Spartan III
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Foomanshoe
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Posted - 2005.12.07 05:22:00 -
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Absolution should be a great ship, and probably cost 300-400 mil 
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Originally by: Oveur
To the nerfmobile!
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Jezala
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Posted - 2005.12.07 05:45:00 -
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dang....cruiser V; BC V; spaceship command V; Leadership V; Weapons Upgrade V...
These aren't requirements for a T2 ship! This is what T3 ships should be requiring.
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Zarks
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Posted - 2005.12.07 06:11:00 -
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/runs off to buy squadron command and battlecruiser skill books..
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TerrorWOLF
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Posted - 2005.12.07 08:08:00 -
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The skills needed for the T2 BC ships are just ebil. 2x rank 6 lvl5 a rank 5 lvl 5 and i think most ppl need to do Squadron command from 0 so this is alone 30 days if you have Charisma trained up and BC was never really high on anyones training list if thy didn't use it.
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Helmut 314
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Posted - 2005.12.07 09:52:00 -
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Awww, come on Terror, you know you want one 
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Kuningatar
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Posted - 2005.12.07 09:54:00 -
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I will train amarr cruiser V just cos these ships.
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Waut
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Posted - 2005.12.07 11:18:00 -
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Edited by: Waut on 07/12/2005 11:20:51
nevermind
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Hobblin I
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Posted - 2005.12.07 11:34:00 -
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I like the Zealots optimal bonus though...
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keepiru
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Posted - 2005.12.07 12:11:00 -
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Originally by: Necrologic
Originally by: Spartan III
With stats like that the abolution is basicaly like a bigger badder better(but slightly slower) zealot right?
So will it be able to solo all level 4 missions, and do it with style?
I'll be surprised if you can't.
Its got the exact same cap recharge as a zealot.
But with 50% more cap draw from guns, about 33% slower on afterburner, 100% larger signature, and 33% less range.
Whatever you do in it, you better do it quick, because that cap is not going to keep that ship running for very long.
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fairimear
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Posted - 2005.12.07 12:18:00 -
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make your choice now, option a train for 4 months to fly titan, the universes answer to Ovuer and generaly teh fatest ship around.
or behind door 2 train for 4 months to fly that brand spanking new Battel cruiser, the universes answer to teh nerfbat.
THE CHOICE IS YOURS.
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Tophereon
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Posted - 2005.12.07 12:41:00 -
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Hmmmm let me think..... How many T2 BC's could I get for the price of one Titan!!! lol
Toph. 
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Macro Media
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Posted - 2005.12.07 12:42:00 -
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And, pray tell, what are T3 requirements going to be? Let us look at a possible t3 passive hardner.
T3 Hardner Skill lvl 1.
To use that t3 hardner skill, you need.....
Hull Upgrades Lvl 5
Repair Systems Lvl 5
Electronics Lvl 5
Mechanic Lvl 5
Engineering Lvl 5
Spaceship Command Lvl 5
Energy Systems Operation lvl 5
Advanced Spaceship Command 5
Weapons Systems lvl 5
Advanced Weapons System lvl 5
Some Random Rank 6 Social skill to lvl 5.
Trolling forums lvl 5 (rank 0 thankfully)
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Arshes Nei
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Posted - 2005.12.07 13:43:00 -
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Originally by: keepiru
Originally by: Necrologic
Originally by: Spartan III
With stats like that the abolution is basicaly like a bigger badder better(but slightly slower) zealot right?
So will it be able to solo all level 4 missions, and do it with style?
I'll be surprised if you can't.
Its got the exact same cap recharge as a zealot.
But with 50% more cap draw from guns, about 33% slower on afterburner, 100% larger signature, and 33% less range.
Whatever you do in it, you better do it quick, because that cap is not going to keep that ship running for very long.
What he said ... I fail to see why people think that it is such a great pve ship. Pve requires tanking, tanking needs cap especially if your slow and big. Its not even able to field a impressive passive shield tank like the caldari ones. That ship has the same speed as a typhoon ffs, zealot is so much faster its not funny. Oh btw it has more than double the sig size of the zealot too.
Now please tell me how survivable such a ship is in missions when you are under fire from sentrys, bs fire and/or lots of torps/cruises compared to the zealot that unlike this ship is able to tank and use its weapons  . You think the 25% to all res is gonna save you? Might aswell fly a Sacri then, even better resistances due to higher base res.
Btw, same cap like zealot but 6 guns and a rof bonus on top thats actually funny. You try to run a gang module also and you will be lucky if you can run a single rep setup <-- Thats exaggerated ... a little
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2005.12.07 13:56:00 -
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Why oh why oh why does it need the hac skill?
I have hac to level V but its forcing many others to "not" specialize.
New players are told to specialize but then they are forced to train the hac skilltree just to get in a t2 battlecruiser.
Cruiser V and hac IV are just adding skills to the requirements for the love of the grind.
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Jim Steele
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Posted - 2005.12.07 14:01:00 -
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Originally by: Deja Thoris
Why oh why oh why does it need the hac skill?
Cruiser V and hac IV are just adding skills to the requirements for the love of the grind.
I didnt see the HAC skill in that list, i have it at level 4 anyway. Cruiser 5 is there since you could use all race T2 battlecruisers then just by getting Battlecruiser to 5, which would make the HAC ships pointless imho.
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Liet Traep
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Posted - 2005.12.07 14:36:00 -
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Originally by: Jezala
dang....cruiser V; BC V; spaceship command V; Leadership V; Weapons Upgrade V...
These aren't requirements for a T2 ship! This is what T3 ships should be requiring.
TBH most good HAC pilots would have all those skills but the leadership and bc trained anyway. And anyone interested in t2 bc's should have been prepared for bc 5. Still the learning curve is steep if you haven't trained for HAC's before this.
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Arshes Nei
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Posted - 2005.12.07 15:59:00 -
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Originally by: Liet Traep
Originally by: Jezala
dang....cruiser V; BC V; spaceship command V; Leadership V; Weapons Upgrade V...
These aren't requirements for a T2 ship! This is what T3 ships should be requiring.
TBH most good HAC pilots would have all those skills but the leadership and bc trained anyway. And anyone interested in t2 bc's should have been prepared for bc 5. Still the learning curve is steep if you haven't trained for HAC's before this.
Even worse would be when the training list of Tech II BS includes these requirements. I will skip on these ships cause i dont want to train leadership skills, would be a pain if you get forced to train that skills for Tech 2 bs which might not even have anything to do with leadership skills unlike these ships.
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Hllaxiu
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Posted - 2005.12.07 16:10:00 -
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Originally by: Arshes Nei
Originally by: Liet Traep
Originally by: Jezala
dang....cruiser V; BC V; spaceship command V; Leadership V; Weapons Upgrade V...
These aren't requirements for a T2 ship! This is what T3 ships should be requiring.
TBH most good HAC pilots would have all those skills but the leadership and bc trained anyway. And anyone interested in t2 bc's should have been prepared for bc 5. Still the learning curve is steep if you haven't trained for HAC's before this.
Even worse would be when the training list of Tech II BS includes these requirements. I will skip on these ships cause i dont want to train leadership skills, would be a pain if you get forced to train that skills for Tech 2 bs which might not even have anything to do with leadership skills unlike these ships.
Those ships will probably skip the BC/CC class altogether, like T1 BS. Just like how tech 2 cruisers don't need tech 2 DD skills.
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Spartan III
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Posted - 2005.12.07 16:13:00 -
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Originally by: Hllaxiu
Originally by: Arshes Nei
Originally by: Liet Traep
Originally by: Jezala
dang....cruiser V; BC V; spaceship command V; Leadership V; Weapons Upgrade V...
These aren't requirements for a T2 ship! This is what T3 ships should be requiring.
TBH most good HAC pilots would have all those skills but the leadership and bc trained anyway. And anyone interested in t2 bc's should have been prepared for bc 5. Still the learning curve is steep if you haven't trained for HAC's before this.
Even worse would be when the training list of Tech II BS includes these requirements. I will skip on these ships cause i dont want to train leadership skills, would be a pain if you get forced to train that skills for Tech 2 bs which might not even have anything to do with leadership skills unlike these ships.
Those ships will probably skip the BC/CC class altogether, like T1 BS. Just like how tech 2 cruisers don't need tech 2 DD skills.
It will depend on whether the TL2 BS are Assault BSs or are uswed for other roles, and the HACs and command ships probably would have T2 DD skill required if those ships had come out before HACs did.
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- Jamie (Aka) Spartan III
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Mr M
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Posted - 2005.12.08 16:49:00 -
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Quote:
Damnation
The Khanid Kingdom's ships possess the most advanced shield generators available outside Caldari space, as well as fairly robust electronics systems. Their armor and hull, however, are reather weak and hard to modify.
Maybe it's just me, but this sounds kind of strange on a 7/4/6 ship with 3750 armor and 2625 shields, that gets an armor resistance bonus?
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