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Sir Alsamus
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Posted - 2005.12.07 11:14:00 -
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Is it just me or has the respawn rates on roids been reduced. I mean that now on a good day i can clean out a belt I mean totally gone in around 6 jet cans of ore. This used to take me a whole day if not longer to clean a whole belt now it takes only a few hours.
So have the devs changed respawn rates on roids for what ever reason. The only one I can think of now is to try and slow down macro miners. It is extremly annoying to find that a roid pops after only 1 cycle of your mining laser or less than one cycle in some cases. I thought at first maybe it was just me going on late in the day but recently I have jumped on right after downtime to find it happens then also.
Any thoughts?
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Kedishen
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Posted - 2005.12.07 11:15:00 -
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mine in lower sec tbh.
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Sir Alsamus
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Posted - 2005.12.07 11:20:00 -
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I mine in a 0.6 with loads of belts. I Mine solo mainly any way and as im in a barge currently lower than 0.6 solo in a barge is out of the question tbh.
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Rafein
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Posted - 2005.12.07 11:23:00 -
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minerals respawn at a set amount over time, with rarer minerals respawning slower.
if you mine out a roid, it will only reppear after DT, the rarer the roid, the more DT's till it appears.
Best advice is to let it set a few days and come back.
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Malarkey
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Posted - 2005.12.07 11:44:00 -
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I dont believe there has been any decrease in the respawn rate (99.9% certain), but there has been an increase in the number of ppl mining the easily accessible roid belts. Add this to the proliferation of barges and strip-miners and the net result is simply that many belts appear to be almost empty most of the time.
Going to mine in 0.4 or less doesnt help because there are twice as many pirates around as there used to be.
OTH, I would expect there to be a restoration of healthy trit prices when RMR comes in and the demand for Capital ships picks up again.
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Brutor Shaun
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Posted - 2005.12.07 11:58:00 -
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I mine in .6 and .5, and have to agree that the belts seem to have less in them.
I cleaned out 3 belts of omber in just over 3 hours straight after downtime yesterday with nobody else mining there.
Fair enough saying "mine in lower sec", but I'm a one man band with an alt for a hauler. Even in a corp, you have to rely on your buddies to sit around twiddling their thumbs on the off chance that pirates or rats turn up.
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Dloan
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Posted - 2005.12.07 12:01:00 -
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 Originally by: Rafein
if you mine out a roid, it will only reppear after DT, the rarer the roid, the more DT's till it appears.
You must be very unlucky then...
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sonofollo
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Posted - 2005.12.07 12:04:00 -
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hmm good points all round - high sec belts are being more utilised thats all - the supply and demand curve will soon kick in. All the good roids are being taken out by macros ie kernite and omber - i fly around and theres plenty of veld left - have u tried veld mining ?
Otherwise get out of the one man band and move back into a player mining corp.
Barring that missions are always good for loot and minerals (could be worth a shot if mineral prices start rising)
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2005.12.07 12:13:00 -
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This is how ore respawning works. When ore is mined, it is added to a total of ore that was mined that day. At downtime each day, that ore is put back in small quantities into random asteroids. Asteroids which are "popped" are still there, they just have 0 ore in them and are invisible. If ore is put into a "popped" asteroid during downtime, it will be visible after downtime.
This is why if you mine out a belt entirely and come on again after donwtime, you'll likely find a bunch of roids with bugger all ore in them. Move to low sec or find a system without a refinery in it or a station in it. They have less people mining there and thus the asteroids are much much fatter. There are plenty of good mining spots in high sec, just don't expect one in a system with a refinery in it.
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sonofollo
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Posted - 2005.12.07 12:14:00 -
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moving around plenty of 0.5 and 0.6 systems i find regulary that still have big ore fields
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2005.12.07 12:19:00 -
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Originally by: sonofollo
moving around plenty of 0.5 and 0.6 systems i find regulary that still have big ore fields
Ditto. I sometimes check them out when travelling and spot huge veldspar and stuff that hasn't been mined in forever in 0.5 and 0.6 systems.
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solidshot
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Posted - 2005.12.07 12:29:00 -
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Originally by: Sir Alsamus
I mine in a 0.6 with loads of belts. I Mine solo mainly any way and as im in a barge currently lower than 0.6 solo in a barge is out of the question tbh.
you can easily mine in 0.5 with a med barge and just 4 med drones for defence
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Aram Gishno
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Posted - 2005.12.07 12:31:00 -
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Originally by: Brutor Shaun
Fair enough saying "mine in lower sec", but I'm a one man band with an alt for a hauler. Even in a corp, you have to rely on your buddies to sit around twiddling their thumbs on the off chance that pirates or rats turn up.
It depends really. If that alt is on a second account (i.e playing both at the same time) it shouldn't be a problem, just apply the good ol' technique of Indy-Alt Ninja-Mining(TM). Fit WCS's on the mining rig, align for safespot, park the indy-alt next to the can, aligned for warp (preferreably with a WCS or two) and when/if any pirates appear in local, prepare for a jump-out. If they do come into the belt, off you go, with the ore in the hauler. => safespot, and then => station. Refine and play Freecell till they go away.
It's another story if your alt is on the same account, but still there are a number of people who mine alone in low-sec or even 0.0. Clearly, joining a corp has it's advantages, but it stil can be done, and if you pick the right systems the risk is usually outweighted by the profits.
Aram Gishno,
reformed former miner
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sonofollo
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Posted - 2005.12.07 12:32:00 -
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or take a long a corp buddy works both ways - he can run off and shoot the rats and hope for a factional respawn which would drop some uber loot while u mine the veld
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High Sierra
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Posted - 2005.12.07 12:35:00 -
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find a nice quiet system and farm it. dont pop the roids.
however, I do believe they need to do something with the belts cos as more people buy into eve, the less ore there is to go round. I can honestly see a day when one corp war decs another over a 'roid.
Wait for RMR cos I reckon that will change things one hell of alot. Demand for minerals will definitely go up so they will have to do something about supply in terms of the raw materials being out there. This is because they will never get the carebear corps out to 0.0 whilst the pirate griefers are around - although I'll be interested to see how the flagging for criminal acts works.
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sonofollo
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Posted - 2005.12.07 12:40:00 -
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well tbh i think a lot of players have a lot of unrefined unused items sitting in their hangers if mienral prices take off then i can see supply being boosted
There are always a supply on agent missions via loot drops
ALways unkilled NPC spawns in the belts
So supply isnt limited but prices could rise. With macro miners being killed cant say this is a bad thing
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High Sierra
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Posted - 2005.12.07 13:03:00 -
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killing the macro miners will make a huge difference to the game.
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sonofollo
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Posted - 2005.12.07 13:06:00 -
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instead of whack a mole it will be whack a macro - roids will last longer - real miners will be able to make more ISK. A little hint we found guys if youre mining in low sec - take a 3 slot mining barges - use 2 for strip mienrs and the other one for a cloaking device if hostiles enter system warp to safe spot and a cloak.
Same applies to apoc and megathon mining barges 7 Miner 2s or DCM and 1 cloaker
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Hohenheim OfLight
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Posted - 2005.12.07 13:42:00 -
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I have noticed that in ayd (0.7) when a roid is poped it will not come back untill tuesdays dt or thursdays dt, once roids go they only seem to come back on those two days dt's.
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Lord WarATron
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Posted - 2005.12.07 14:23:00 -
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There have been a lot of Myths about roid poping ect.
Can someone confirm the true theory? I am sure I saw a veld roid respawn from 0 in a stripped system while I was mining.
My theory is that roids slowly regenerate to full with a set regeneration rate.
Also, Poping roids does not make another type of roid respawn. Go to Kor-Azor Prime (0.9 sec rating) and bookmark, then pop all the kernite in its belts. Next day they have respawned as kernite and your bookmarks will show that these are the same roids.
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Posted - 2005.12.07 14:52:00 -
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Originally by: Nyphur
This is how ore respawning works. When ore is mined, it is added to a total of ore that was mined that day. At downtime each day, that ore is put back in small quantities into random asteroids. Asteroids which are "popped" are still there, they just have 0 ore in them and are invisible. If ore is put into a "popped" asteroid during downtime, it will be visible after downtime.
This is why if you mine out a belt entirely and come on again after donwtime, you'll likely find a bunch of roids with bugger all ore in them. Move to low sec or find a system without a refinery in it or a station in it. They have less people mining there and thus the asteroids are much much fatter. There are plenty of good mining spots in high sec, just don't expect one in a system with a refinery in it.
We have a winner. It works like this. The End.
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Samuel Baxter
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Posted - 2005.12.07 15:07:00 -
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Edited by: Samuel Baxter on 07/12/2005 15:07:32
Originally by: Malarkey
I dont believe there has been any decrease in the respawn rate (99.9% certain), but there has been an increase in the number of ppl mining the easily accessible roid belts. Add this to the proliferation of barges and strip-miners and the net result is simply that many belts appear to be almost empty most of the time.
OTH, I would expect there to be a restoration of healthy trit prices when RMR comes in and the demand for Capital ships picks up again.
I agree with both your points Malarkey. Sobaseki [and all systems within 2-3 jumps] are roaring with activity in the asteroid belts right now, which has led to greatly-depressed mineral prices throughout the Lonetrek region.
Mineral pricewise, it's gotten so bad that I've transitioned more into combat than mining - I can get better for agent missions hunting Guristas for an hour than after mining and refining for 2-3 days.
I do mine from time-to-time, however: I'm stockpiling tritanium [and other minerals] for when I suspect the prices will rise.
Originally by: sonofollo
instead of whack a mole it will be whack a macro
LMAO. I can so see this turning into a request for a miniaturized game in EVE.
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