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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.12.07 19:13:00 -
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Originally by: Dreown You can buy 900M for 150 euro in gtc's. you might wanne try that if you really want to continue playing 
Ah, and it's legal as well!
But you can't pay the CSPA charge to evemail the guy the code...     - Proud member of the [23].
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Harry Voyager
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Posted - 2005.12.07 19:14:00 -
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CCP also fines players for duping exploits. Basically any exploit that results in the counterfieting of currency.
However, the inability to even sell things with a negative balance is new. My guess is the market charges its fees before the completion of the transaction, and that it why it's malfunctioning this way.
CCP fines players to make them replay their debt to the game, not to destroy the character; were they intended t omake the character unplayable, they would have simply banned him.
Harry Voyager ____________________ I'm not an idiot; I just play one on the forums. |

Fester Addams
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Posted - 2005.12.07 19:21:00 -
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Originally by: Cow Tipper here's the thing when your account is in a negative balance you can not do ANYTHING in eve
cant claim a free escrow cant run agent missions (they want escrow) cant use the market (even for insta selling) cant do a direct trade between charectors
In short you want us to belive that CCP has denied you just about every way possible to get out of this situation except donations?
Now, firstly whatever you have to do to get back on a positive isk balance is part of your punishment as CCP set it but apart from that as the main way to make isk on here is to sell ore/minerals that you have mined I would be very suprised if a negative isk balance would remove this possibility.
It is better in your situation if you simply try to petition it to the devs so that you atleast can sell stuff to get isk.
As for begging, generally I dont give money to people that beg but in this specific case I will not give isk dyue to the simple fact the fine is suposed to be a punishment.
------------ 20. Is it true all pvpers have carebear alts? Yes, of course. I have so much fun looking up who's alt is who's 
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Firstname Lastname
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Posted - 2005.12.07 19:42:00 -
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Edited by: Firstname Lastname on 07/12/2005 19:43:03 Edited by: Firstname Lastname on 07/12/2005 19:42:49 Edited by: Firstname Lastname on 07/12/2005 19:42:30
Originally by: Firstname Lastname ]he's not actually 1b in the hole, it's just a scam to get people to give him money.
a good idea, too (until i just told everyone what he's doing XD)
please read this folks, and don't give him any money
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Kiss Myass
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Posted - 2005.12.07 19:50:00 -
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haha hohoh hehehehe
what did you do that caused this? Perhaps then we'll feel sorry for you... LOL
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Slink Grinsdikild
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Posted - 2005.12.07 19:51:00 -
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To the OP:
You don't seem to be all that fussed about getting out of the negative, if you
A. Don't post with your main B. Don't tell us what you did exactly C. Post a screenshot of your wallet
And you expect us to believe you? Suuuure. 
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Dao 2
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Posted - 2005.12.07 20:00:00 -
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Edited by: Dao 2 on 07/12/2005 20:00:01 u can still do a direct trade? ;p
as in give mins to alt and he sells ;p
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Concordoken'd
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Posted - 2005.12.07 20:04:00 -
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Wow how can you not see that this is a scam... nice coverup.
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Spokie
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Posted - 2005.12.07 20:13:00 -
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It's an old scam.
mOo did it 2 years ago when "someone" allegedly duped billions of isk and wired it to various mOo members out of spite. 
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2005.12.07 20:18:00 -
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A billion really is not that hard to come by. All it takes is for you to think of something to make some good ISK for time invested, then repeat that until you go insane. Everyone's saying you deserve it but I'd like to put another spin on that. If you manage to pay that debt off, Cow Tipper, you will be my new hero.
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xeom
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Posted - 2005.12.07 20:33:00 -
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if in fact you are out 1bill dip into your real wallet and sell some time codes.You can remove the fee if you add the person.
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Lord Dynastron
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Posted - 2005.12.07 20:43:00 -
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Originally by: xeom if in fact you are out 1bill dip into your real wallet and sell some time codes.You can remove the fee if you add the person.
No codes for sale.. Cards yes... codes no.
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Vegeta
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Posted - 2005.12.07 21:01:00 -
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Not the first time somebody has come in here in your position asking the same question.
Remember Reverend?
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Fantome
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Posted - 2005.12.07 21:23:00 -
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30mil +sp : go in a right 0.0 where you can do at least something like 8-10mil/hours with npcs bounties, 150hours max and it's done . Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum. |

Cow Tipper
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Posted - 2005.12.07 21:33:00 -
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Originally by: Justus Imperius his main = Paw Sandberg
actuelly that was the guy I bought this account of a while back (for ingame ISK btw) so nope thats not me
nice try though
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Boonaki
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Posted - 2005.12.07 22:20:00 -
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This is a scam or something, if not....
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... you suck, and uhhh, oh you suck! Fear the Ibis of doom. |

Tauruz
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Posted - 2005.12.07 23:02:00 -
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Edited by: Tauruz on 07/12/2005 23:05:34
Originally by: Cow Tipper here's the thing when your account is in a negative balance you can not do ANYTHING in eve
cant claim a free escrow cant run agent missions (they want escrow) cant use the market (even for insta selling) cant do a direct trade between charectors
Well firstly, you can't be in negative isk...but if you were, you could claim free escrow (costs nothing), you could run kill missions (no isk required) and you can direct trade between characters (once again no isk required).
And as far as I'm aware, you'd be the first character to be given an isk penalty for doing something 'bad'. Try mining veld in Jita! |

Gonada
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Posted - 2005.12.08 00:09:00 -
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sucks to be you eh ?
lol
basically if you did a bad thing, and got fined 1B isk, that kinda says you were screwing the game/ and communtiy that plays it somehow, and now you want to be bailed out?
i hear WoW needs ppl 
-I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.-
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Tekka
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Posted - 2005.12.08 00:13:00 -
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I rate this thread : LOL! »»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»
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Beast Rabban
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Posted - 2005.12.08 00:14:00 -
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Wanna know something F'd up to do? Sell the character for isk. If it is 30m sp you can get a few billion. Don't mention the negative wallet. Let the sucker find out after transfer. Then use the isk to buy a new character.
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sonofollo
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Posted - 2005.12.08 00:18:00 -
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ah well doesnt stop u using assets to make stuff etc
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Bhaal
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Posted - 2005.12.08 00:37:00 -
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To the OP:
Take a hike chump! ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE |

Kharakan
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Posted - 2005.12.08 00:37:00 -
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Originally by: Avon Edited by: Avon on 07/12/2005 15:16:29 If you are an old character that I would know, eve-mail me.
Oh wait, you can't afford the charge.

Avon, I will now be proceeding to sue you for several billion ISK (and the obligatory 'all your stuff') for GBH. I think I just broke many bones laughing... 
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Scrammer
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Posted - 2005.12.08 00:56:00 -
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There are two clear scenerios here:
1) You're telling the truth, in which case you're getting what you deserve. The punishment CCP put on you is meant to remind you of whatever you did. Personally I think it should be more than 1 billion fine, but it should take you a while to get out of debt...and by the time you reach a positive bank account I hope you learned your lesson.
2) You're not telling the truth, and this is just a scam to get more money, in which case you deserve to be fined by CCP for 1 billion+ ISK anyway, seeing that you're using the public forums to rob people of their money.
Either way, you're not getting a dime from me.
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zerokwel
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Posted - 2005.12.08 01:33:00 -
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LOL i hardley ever come on the forums.. i wish i had more often
give meh isk now as i want to buy something :) apoc and t2 warez
ok now on a serious note what everyone wants to know
""""WHAT DID YOU DO""""??
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Samuel Baxter
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Posted - 2005.12.08 01:51:00 -
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Originally by: Cow Tipper here's the thing when you account is in a negative balance you can not do ANYTHING in eve
cant claim a free escrow cant run agent missions (they want escrow) cant use the market (even for insta selling) cant do a direct trade between charectors
I can (and do) hunt in 0.0 but thats about the only thing I got left
You stated that you couldn't do any sort of economic-related activity in EVE, then went on to state that you could still receive money from hunting pirates.
Logic dictates that hunting pirates would put money into your wallet (unless you've turned over a new leaf and have become a good Samaritan). Therefore, when an agent asks for a downpayment before a mission, you would be able to pay it, and then receive the money [and reward] upon completion of the mission.
So remind me again: how were you not able to work with agents?
Originally by: Cow Tipper what I would like to ask the comunity for is help
yeah I did a bad thing I admit it I am sorry I got a 10day ban (wich I deserved) now I would like to get back to the game
if you got any extra ISK (any amount helps) please give it to the charector I am posting with
You've already confessed that [allegedly] the devs have fined you; therefore, it would stand to reason that they [and the GMs] would be watching you for further problematic actions.
So why are you openly confessing this problem in a manner which will call further undue attention to yourself?
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Wrayeth
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Posted - 2005.12.08 01:53:00 -
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Geeze...a 1 bil ISK fine? If I got that, I'd have to cancel my account. I've made like 2 billion in the entire time I've played EVE, and I've been here for a year and a half. -Wrayeth
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Cow Tipper
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Posted - 2005.12.08 01:58:00 -
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Originally by: Tauruz Edited by: Tauruz on 07/12/2005 23:06:32 Edited by: Tauruz on 07/12/2005 23:05:34
Originally by: Cow Tipper here's the thing when your account is in a negative balance you can not do ANYTHING in eve
cant claim a free escrow cant run agent missions (they want escrow) cant use the market (even for insta selling) cant do a direct trade between charectors
Well firstly, you can't be in negative isk...but if you were, you could claim free escrow (costs nothing), you could run kill missions (no isk required) and you can direct trade between characters (once again no isk required).
And as far as I'm aware, you'd be the first character to be given an isk penalty for doing something 'bad'. Try mining veld in Jita!
you obiusly dont know what your talking about :-)
you can in fact have a negative acount ISK it happens A if CCP takes away ISK from your account B if you got certain trade skills that allow you to use money not in your wallet (dont remember the name of that skill atm)
and what I said is true you can NOT use the regular market for even insta sells (as the market claim the tax BEFORE the transaction) you can verify this by making a alt and try to sell something that its value exeds you wallet amount
you can not recive even a free escrow we tried that today samme goes for direct trading between charectors
you can however transfer stuff to your corp and (if you are a director) use the corp wallet however thats the ONLY way to use ISK and trade is by using corp wallet
yeah I did something bad I tried to scam someone by selling a charector that did not exist thats all I did I thought that scamming was allowed in Eve and in fact it is read this
As can happen in the real world, at some juncture someone may try to take away from you the possessions you have gathered with your hard work and effort in the dynamic world of EVE-Online, by using either a scam or an exploit.
1) A scam is what happens when someone takes advantage of your misplaced trust and robs you of your possessions via legal in-game means. When this occurs, there is nothing the GM¦s/Support Team can do for you. Although low and despicable, this is something that can happen in real life, and the world of EVE-Online has been made to resemble it in as many fundamental ways as possible. Example of a scam can be found here.
2) An exploit is when someone takes advantage of a bypass in normal game mechanics, allowing him to take advantage of you without you having any means of preventing it whatsoever. When this occurs, we implore you to contact your friendly neighbourhood GM/Support Team as soon as possible, to allow them to investigate the incident, prevent it from happening to anyone else, and possibly reimburse you for your loss.
The problem is knowing the difference between the two. Hopefully this guide will help you determining whether or not you have been the victim of a legal in-game cheat, or an illegal exploit. If you aren¦t sure, please contact a GM or the support team and they will help you determine. In the end, it will always be your responsibility though, to prevent yourself from being taken advantage of, and the tools you employ to that end are a level head, practicality and a healthy distrust of strangers.
Often you can tell whether or not you are dealing with someone who¦s trying to scam you by the way he is acting. If you feel that you are being rushed through a transaction, or if something doesn¦t feel right, you should back out. After all, it¦s a big galaxy and there are plenty more business opportunities out there.
CCP claims that the type of scam I did was unlegal though and I accept that verdict (though they said it was NOT a exploit)
they game the person I scammed back their 1 Bill ISK and since I already spend the ISK I went negative
I spend that ISK on a new toy that is now worth maybe 500M (IF I can get that much)
so I am screwed 
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Geoff W
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Posted - 2005.12.08 02:02:00 -
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POST A WALLET SCREENSHOT :X
becasue this smells of scam
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HostageTaker
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Posted - 2005.12.08 03:06:00 -
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"CCP claims that the type of scam I did was unlegal though and I accept that verdict (though they said it was NOT a exploit)
they game the person I scammed back their 1 Bill ISK and since I already spend the ISK I went negative
I spend that ISK on a new toy that is now worth maybe 500M (IF I can get that much)
so I am screwed "
... yet you have the audacity to come here and beg the same people that you try to scam, to give you isk so that you can go on playing and scamming people...
You got what you deserved, now stop your pathetic plea and live with your punishment, you'll find no sympathy here.
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