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Boonaki
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Posted - 2005.12.07 22:25:00 -
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For the next year I think maybe 1 to 3 will be built. Period...
I doubt/hope they don't stay at those prices, a BPC alone would cost a couple of billion.
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Mousey
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Posted - 2005.12.07 22:35:00 -
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1 - 3?
so
1 for RKK
1 for evol
1 for bnc
what the other corps gonna do?
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Tauruz
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Posted - 2005.12.07 22:41:00 -
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 Originally by: Mousey
1 - 3?
so
1 for RKK
1 for evol
1 for bnc
what the other corps gonna do?
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Boonaki
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Posted - 2005.12.07 23:09:00 -
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Edited by: Boonaki on 07/12/2005 23:10:50
I'm actually not looking forward to when we get a titan, I know whoever is doomed to live in that thing is gonna be superBBQing the rest of us.
I know that's what I'd do!
*edit* all the major alliances have to do is sell their tech 2 BPO's in order to buy all the BPO's required.
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MysticNZ
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Posted - 2005.12.07 23:19:00 -
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And what's the bet, after building one for 6 months you lose it to an ingame bug and the GM's go "MUAHAHA PAWNED!!!!!@!"
Originally by: Nyphur
I'm hungry and naked. That answer your question?
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Kharakan
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Posted - 2005.12.07 23:30:00 -
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Originally by: The Wizz117
so aboud 10 players in eve actualy ged to fly this ship and will probitly not fly it much couse they dont want to looose it.
and ccp spend all theyr time on theyr office on that?
here is where the titan hype ends.
they should be afford able for evry corporation. even the small ones.
I vote that the devs give this guy a titan, of whatever race he wants!
Then:
1. The devs lock him into it, making sure that he can't leave it.
2. They make it indestructible, so he can't get out of it via selfdestruct or attacking.
3. They remove the jumpdrive.
Then he can have fun owning an entire system... forever =D Then we can ask him whether it's really a good idea for small corps to have titans ^__^
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Mned Graydroggen
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Posted - 2005.12.07 23:51:00 -
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I like these price tags. Fitting the monsterous size these ships have.
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Ramius Monteagne
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Posted - 2005.12.08 02:51:00 -
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I am not against the price. I think that is about right for the type of ship.
What I hate is the copy times on the BPO.
Either this is just another BLATANT ISK sink by CCP or someone was smoking something they should not.
Let me put it this way, the people that actually decide to buy a BPO will use it to build 1 (maybe 2) Carriers, taking about 6 weeks each (after all the comps have been built). Then they are going to let it sit there and gather dust as well they will not want to sell cheap copies to their 'enemies' and allow them to get a Titan as well. Hell no that would just not be fair. So it is going to sit ther and go mouldy.
No other non-aligned corp is going to invest in it and make copies at a reasonable price (3-5 Bill) as it will take YEARS to break even because it will tak eyou 4 months to run off a single copy and 6 month to research it to ME 1.
Copy time should be NO MORE than 20% creater than construction time. Then there is opportunity for people other than alliances to be involved in this kind of project.
This should also apply to all Capital class ships. Copy time should be no more than 20% more than build time. OK so you can build quicker off the BPO but you can still make it worth while running bpc's.
The only reason I can see for CCP to do it this way is that they DO NOT want ANY Titan BPC's in the game.
The other though would be for CCP to release 1 run BPC's at 10 billion isk from NPC agents so that there is another path other than buying the bpo.
Ramius Monteagne
Forge Region Commander
Celestial Horizon Corporation
A battle plan lasts until the first enemy engagement.
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D'uu M'ii
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Posted - 2005.12.08 03:32:00 -
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Just steal one, DUH!
First one stolen will make BIG news.
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Wrayeth
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Posted - 2005.12.08 03:33:00 -
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Ugh... Well, I'm poor and can barely keep my ships insured, so I'm never going to fly any of those, unfortunately, and never going to fly a dread either.
/sigh
-Wrayeth
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Rawne Karrde
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Posted - 2005.12.08 05:02:00 -
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Is it me or does the fact that titans & motherships cannot dock mean they cannot be insured? Man thats gonna take balls to fly....
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Uggs386
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Posted - 2005.12.08 06:38:00 -
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Those prices arent as bad as i thought tbh.
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Sobeseki Pawi
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Posted - 2005.12.08 06:49:00 -
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Titans and Motherships shouldnt even have BPOs on the npc market. Single run BPCs at the same prices.
~Sobe
Originally by: TomB
Originally by: Darpz
Originally by: Sobeseki Pawi
CCP will nerf this probably, but hey, worth a try 
so your saying I should of kept my mouth shut?
Yup.
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Darwinia
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Posted - 2005.12.08 07:19:00 -
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Originally by: Rawne Karrde
Is it me or does the fact that titans & motherships cannot dock mean they cannot be insured? Man thats gonna take balls to fly....
Did the Death Star have insurance? 
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aeti
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Posted - 2005.12.08 07:48:00 -
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Originally by: Rawne Karrde
Is it me or does the fact that titans & motherships cannot dock mean they cannot be insured? Man thats gonna take balls to fly....
yes, but in the same way they are immune to ew, hence can never be warp scrambled :P
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Snake Jankins
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Posted - 2005.12.08 07:49:00 -
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Edited by: Snake Jankins on 08/12/2005 07:49:45
75 bil shouldn't be impossible for a big alliance.
In my first 2 months 0.0 I made about 1.1 billion isk cash plus all the new ships and equipment that I got. A friend of mine even more. Ok, the money is gone now, but if an alliance has 1000 members, it should be possible to make 75 billion isk for that purpose.
Not to mention all the alliances, corps and single players that are known to be ultra rich.
I see it as a group effort. Like the egypts built the pyramids, big alliances built titans. Ok, hope they don't force their workers in the same way to participate. 
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Raem Civrie
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Posted - 2005.12.08 08:03:00 -
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The money isn't the problem, the logistics is. These ships are manufactured at a PoS. It takes 6-8 weeks to do this. If someone puts that thing into reinforced mode while the titan is still in the cooker, all minerals and progress are lost.
That's the crux of the problem, and the real challenge. With outposts you have 24 hours of tension while the egg goes online. With Titans you have 8 weeks of tension while it's being built. Between infiltrators, spies, saboteurs, fleets of dreads roaming about and people forgetting to fuel their bases, getting that titan built is going to be a challenge.
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Gairon Fay
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Posted - 2005.12.08 08:04:00 -
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Originally by: Darwinia
Originally by: Rawne Karrde
Is it me or does the fact that titans & motherships cannot dock mean they cannot be insured? Man thats gonna take balls to fly....
Did the Death Star have insurance?
I¦m sure it did, Wookie Inc had a paydeal on it. 
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From the Shadows, he watches...
It¦s safer there.
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Sobeseki Pawi
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Posted - 2005.12.08 08:11:00 -
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Originally by: Raem Civrie
The money isn't the problem, the logistics is. These ships are manufactured at a PoS. It takes 6-8 weeks to do this. If someone puts that thing into reinforced mode while the titan is still in the cooker, all minerals and progress are lost.
That's the crux of the problem, and the real challenge. With outposts you have 24 hours of tension while the egg goes online. With Titans you have 8 weeks of tension while it's being built. Between infiltrators, spies, saboteurs, fleets of dreads roaming about and people forgetting to fuel their bases, getting that titan built is going to be a challenge.
You can bet that there will be at least one entity that is already prepared to find and kill that POS.
In a way, it almost seems not worth it to build a Titan.
~Sobe
Originally by: TomB
Originally by: Darpz
Originally by: Sobeseki Pawi
CCP will nerf this probably, but hey, worth a try
so your saying I should of kept my mouth shut?
Yup.
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Kuolematon
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Posted - 2005.12.08 08:19:00 -
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*heads to eBay*
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Darwinia
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Posted - 2005.12.08 08:24:00 -
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Originally by: Raem Civrie
The money isn't the problem, the logistics is. These ships are manufactured at a PoS. It takes 6-8 weeks to do this. If someone puts that thing into reinforced mode while the titan is still in the cooker, all minerals and progress are lost.
That's the crux of the problem, and the real challenge. With outposts you have 24 hours of tension while the egg goes online. With Titans you have 8 weeks of tension while it's being built. Between infiltrators, spies, saboteurs, fleets of dreads roaming about and people forgetting to fuel their bases, getting that titan built is going to be a challenge.
Hear hear!
I never looked at it that way, but it makes perfect sense. Building a titan is going to be a big pain in the ass indeed.
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MOS DEF
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Posted - 2005.12.08 09:26:00 -
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Edited by: MOS DEF on 08/12/2005 09:26:59
Originally by: Snake Jankins
Edited by: Snake Jankins on 08/12/2005 07:55:51
75 bil shouldn't be impossible for a big alliance.
In my first 2 months 0.0 I made about 1.1 billion isk cash plus all the new ships and equipment that I got. A friend of mine even more. Ok, the money is gone now, but if an alliance has 1000 members, it should be possible to make 75 billion isk for that purpose.
Not to mention all the alliances, corps and single players that are known to be ultra rich.
I see it as a group effort. Like the egypts built the pyramids, big alliances build titans. Ok, hope they don't force their workers in the same way to participate.
Making the money probably is no show stopper. Looking at how much more useful things you can do with that money is though.
You can raise a fleet that would omgbbq a titan in such a rediculous time easy with that money.
The superweapon isn't all that impressive that it justifies the cost IMO.
While looking at the price and then looking at what it can do i'd say it will be a status symbol and not much more.
Edit: Ok no bbq since the titans can't be EW'd.
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F'nog
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Posted - 2005.12.08 10:34:00 -
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Originally by: Darwinia
Originally by: Rawne Karrde
Is it me or does the fact that titans & motherships cannot dock mean they cannot be insured? Man thats gonna take balls to fly....
Did the Death Star have insurance?
What about all the poor construction personnel on the second version?
Why won't someone think of them?????
Originally by: rowbin hod
Fragm's Oversized Ego Cannon barely scratches the forums, inflicting omgnoonecares damage.
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Nifel
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Posted - 2005.12.08 10:59:00 -
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Originally by: MOS DEF
Edited by: MOS DEF on 08/12/2005 09:26:59
Originally by: Snake Jankins
Edited by: Snake Jankins on 08/12/2005 07:55:51
75 bil shouldn't be impossible for a big alliance.
In my first 2 months 0.0 I made about 1.1 billion isk cash plus all the new ships and equipment that I got. A friend of mine even more. Ok, the money is gone now, but if an alliance has 1000 members, it should be possible to make 75 billion isk for that purpose.
Not to mention all the alliances, corps and single players that are known to be ultra rich.
I see it as a group effort. Like the egypts built the pyramids, big alliances build titans. Ok, hope they don't force their workers in the same way to participate.
Making the money probably is no show stopper. Looking at how much more useful things you can do with that money is though.
You can raise a fleet that would omgbbq a titan in such a rediculous time easy with that money.
The superweapon isn't all that impressive that it justifies the cost IMO.
While looking at the price and then looking at what it can do i'd say it will be a status symbol and not much more.
Edit: Ok no bbq since the titans can't be EW'd.
The justification is to be able to jump an entire fleet with the titan, it's the super nice gang bonuses you get with the titan, it's the base of operations you can move around.
"We wield swords for the sound of laughter that used to be there long ago."
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Ikvar
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Posted - 2005.12.08 11:06:00 -
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Not like you can't afford it, Seleene! 
Originally by: Avon
I actually enjoy crafting in EQ2.
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marioman
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Posted - 2005.12.08 11:21:00 -
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While i have no issues with the pricing and times and what not (could really care less) I can't help but find it ironic in a way that its taken CCP close to 3 years to make something only 5 people are going to use lol
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Herko Kerghans
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Posted - 2005.12.08 11:31:00 -
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Originally by: MOS DEF
Making the money probably is no show stopper. Looking at how much more useful things you can do with that money is though.
You can raise a fleet that would omgbbq a titan in such a rediculous time easy with that money.
Well, the same can be said with, say, t1 frigs and a HAC. The point is, for the really big alliance, what limits their power is the quantity of pilots and not the price of the ships.
10 HACs will kill 10 t1 frigs over and over and over; 1 Titan and 9 HAC will fry 10 HACs the exact same way.
And looks like CCP is increasingly focusing 0.0 warfare into infrastructure warfare (they way it should be). As Raem says above, a Titan takes 6 weeks to build... can you guess what will be the task of the first Titan ever built?
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Heavenly Explorer
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Posted - 2005.12.08 11:36:00 -
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Hmmm carriers and mothership BPO's are about what I expected, titans a little more than I would've guessed but i ugess thats good thing.
Alliances will still get titans pretty fast though, whoever gets one first will have a hugeadvantage over their enemies.
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.12.08 12:49:00 -
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Originally by: F'nog
Originally by: Darwinia
Originally by: Rawne Karrde
Is it me or does the fact that titans & motherships cannot dock mean they cannot be insured? Man thats gonna take balls to fly....
Did the Death Star have insurance?
What about all the poor construction personnel on the second version?
Why won't someone think of them?????
"All right, look... Rou're a roofer, and some juicy government contract comes your way; you got the wife and kids and the two-story in suburbia. This is a government contract, which means all sorts of benefits. All of a sudden these left-wing militants blast you with lasers and wipe out everyone within a three-mile radius! You didn't ask for that! You have no personal politics. You're just trying to sc*****out a living!!"
Originally by: Ikvar
Not like you can't afford it, Seleene!
Shhhhh! *looks around* We're not a threat to anyone. 
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F'nog
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Posted - 2005.12.08 18:13:00 -
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Woot, Seleene got the reference first. Have a cookie!
Originally by: rowbin hod
Fragm's Oversized Ego Cannon barely scratches the forums, inflicting omgnoonecares damage.
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