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Seleene	Posted - 2005.12.07 17:37:00 - [1] Okay... if you are already building Dreads, then you don't have to worry about spending billions on the components already in the game. Here is what's comming (rounded up): Carriers Capital Corporate Hangar Bay BPO - 1.7b Capital Ship Maintenance Bay BPO - 1.7b Racial Carrier BPO - 1.1b So, for 4.5b ISK, all you Dread builders can start building Carriers as well. (You might wanna pick up a second Cap Drone Bay BPO, tho...) Motherships Oh? You want to build Motherships too? Well, you'll need to get a Capital Clone Vat Bay BPO. Problem is, they are not on SiSi yet, but they will probably cost either 2.1 or 3.1b ISK based on the other BPO costs. Racial Mothership BPO - 18.5b Not too bad... TITANS Ready? Capital Jump Bridge Array BPO - 3.1b Capital Doomsday Weapon Mount BPO - 2.1b Titan BPO - 75 billion isk That's right, kids! So, with the other component BPOs, the new ones and the mineral costs, it's about 150 billion and change from scratch to build yourself a One Shot Fleet Sweeper, and that's before you evern put guns or other 'stuff' on it. Can I hear an EXTREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEME?! Oh man, I love this game! - The REAL Eve Political Map!
Torquemanda Corteaz	Posted - 2005.12.07 17:40:00 - [2] those are decent prices
Grimpak	Posted - 2005.12.07 17:42:00 - [3] well... hmm.... that cuts the number of titans that will be sold to the general public.... ------------------- Celestial Horizon: we go zerg on you
Azuriel Talloth	Posted - 2005.12.07 17:44:00 - [4] You mean I can't run level 4s in Jita with one? ________________ "Pain is an illusion of the flesh. Despair is an illusion of the mind."
danneh	Posted - 2005.12.07 17:44:00 - [5] Good.
keepiru	Posted - 2005.12.07 17:46:00 - [6] Excellent news. ------------- Where are the named 800mm Plates and Mega Ions, CCP?
Noriath	Posted - 2005.12.07 17:47:00 - [7] In Terms of Titans it might acctually be better for entire alliances to buy BPCs from someone then to buy a BPO, considering that the build costs once you have the blueprint are probaply so high that you really don't need unlimited runs... Now you just need an investment company that puts out the 75 billions, then sells BPCs for 10-20 billions and it would probaply make some good money...
Saeris Tal'Urduar	Posted - 2005.12.07 17:53:00 - [8] Ouch. Tho with the titans ability to project a wormhole so a BS fleet can jump thru is a huge advantage.
Selak Zorander	Posted - 2005.12.07 17:54:00 - [9] yeah but the copy time is something 6 months for a single run of a titan with lvl 5 research skills. I do not expect there to be many BPC for this. Of course with lvl 5 skills it is also 6 months for 1 lvl of ME research and 9.5 months for one lvl of productivity lvl. Yes the blue print really says 25 weeks 2 days 18 hours and 40 minutes for a single run copy or 1 ME lvl and 38 weeks for a lvl of productivity research. That is unless they have changed it on the test server.
keepiru	Posted - 2005.12.07 17:58:00 - [10] Originally by: Selak Zorander Yes the blue print really says 25 weeks 2 days 18 hours and 40 minutes for a single run copy or 1 ME lvl and 38 weeks for a lvl of productivity research. ------------- Where are the named 800mm Plates and Mega Ions, CCP?
Calenth	Posted - 2005.12.07 18:21:00 - [11] Edited by: Calenth on 07/12/2005 18:22:18 Just to put that in perspective: How much is seventy five billion isk real-world? like 300k or so, going by ebay conversion rate?
The Wizz117	Posted - 2005.12.07 18:22:00 - [12] so aboud 10 players in eve actualy ged to fly this ship and will probitly not fly it much couse they dont want to looose it. and ccp spend all theyr time on theyr office on that? here is where the titan hype ends. they should be afford able for evry corporation. even the small ones.
Alain Josviar	Posted - 2005.12.07 18:33:00 - [13] Edited by: Alain Josviar on 07/12/2005 18:34:07 Originally by: The Wizz117 so aboud 10 players in eve actualy ged to fly this ship and will probitly not fly it much couse they dont want to looose it. and ccp spend all theyr time on theyr office on that? here is where the titan hype ends. they should be afford able for evry corporation. even the small ones. No they shouldn't. Titans should be an "event" in game not some throw-away battleship. Now go buy a dread and be happy.
Ortu Konsinni	Posted - 2005.12.07 18:34:00 - [14] Originally by: The Wizz117 so aboud 10 players in eve actualy ged to fly this ship and will probitly not fly it much couse they dont want to looose it. and ccp spend all theyr time on theyr office on that? here is where the titan hype ends. they should be afford able for evry corporation. even the small ones. Suuuuure... Then we'll see titans by the dozen in Jita and elsewhere one-shot-killing each other with their doomsday devices... They're big alliance ships. Transpose this in a Star Wars universe... It would be stupid for every faction to have a Super Star Destroyer (like Lord Vader's Executor in EP5 and 6). These ships are for the largest, richest, most logistically-capable entities in the game. These prices are fine. You're just vexed because you'll never have one. Nor will I. You were just fooling yourself with the "titan hype" you mentioned. The only gripe I have with the whole thing is it caters to a tiny amount of players and they aren't really needed, as opposed to other things that should arguably be taken care of, but usually require entirely different resources (such as fixing the lag in fleet battles). It's a bit like high-level content in grinding MMORPGs, but even this type of content is more easily accessible as it requires less grinding than titans require skill points. But what we should do is just get over it and enjoy the sight when/if we ever see a live one in space. --- Ortu Konsinni Chief diplomat - French Force Alliance --- EVE Player Ship Gallery
Heather Skarsgard	Posted - 2005.12.07 18:38:00 - [15] Man you should read all what CCP decided and announced since EVE was launched. To be quick: Titans were announced during the beta and since, we heard hundreds of players just crying "CCP you promised us the titans, where are they ???" No you will have titans in EVE universe, and you're one of the new crying kids. Titans always were expected to be restricted to an elite (NPC: the big faction we all are coming from, and what is cool: players' corporations). The Titans were announced as flying things, doomed to fly over and over, unable to dock somewhere, and something able to change wars totally. Now why are you crying ? You wanted a titan just for U as a kid wants a big yellow truck just for him ? Now, some of us, Player characters WILL HAVE access to them, if u're lucky maybe your way will cross the way of a titan one day, and that is the EVE universe: something so close to reality: your neighbour is richer than you, your neighbour is smarter than you and your neighbour will ship things you never will. I'm glad to be apart of this adventure. I'll probably never ship something bigger than a freighter, but i don't give a damn, some others will do so and maybe I'll get the chance to view them once or twice, for free. Good luck to those who will try this adventure, fly safe ! And kids, stop crying : p ICE is Coming to EVE public channel: ice-cafe (french-speaking) ICE is Coming to EVE forums: http://ice-forum.dnsalias.org/index.php
kebab v2	Posted - 2005.12.07 18:38:00 - [16] Originally by: The Wizz117 so aboud 10 players in eve actualy ged to fly this ship and will probitly not fly it much couse they dont want to looose it. and ccp spend all theyr time on theyr office on that? here is where the titan hype ends. they should be afford able for evry corporation. even the small ones. dont be daft, it should be one titan per alliance. let the arms race begin!!! "I made this sig while i should of been working"
Egan Gaby	Posted - 2005.12.07 18:49:00 - [17] What would be real cool IMHO would be if Titans required multiple people to fly. ---- Speaking about Star Trek... "It speaks to some basic human needs, that there is a tomorrow - it's not all going to be over in a big flash..." - Gene Roddenberry
Deovina	Posted - 2005.12.07 18:54:00 - [18] Considering that around 1.2-1.4 trillion ISK were spent on Capital Blueprings (Dreads, Freighters, Components) evewide, the Titan BPO price is high but reasonable. Not to mention that because of the skillrequirements the pilots still need some time to skill for them.
j0sephine	Posted - 2005.12.07 19:00:00 - [19] "so aboud 10 players in eve actualy ged to fly this ship and will probitly not fly it much couse they dont want to looose it. and ccp spend all theyr time on theyr office on that? here is where the titan hype ends." These ships are fleet support and mobile logistics center for large operations. There might be few actual ships built and few players who pilot them, but hundreds are going to benefit from gang boosts they provide, and their abilities... while they're part of the fleet.
Agent Kenshin	Posted - 2005.12.07 19:03:00 - [20] Originally by: Deovina Considering that around 1.2-1.4 trillion ISK were spent on Capital Blueprings (Dreads, Freighters, Components) evewide, the Titan BPO price is high but reasonable. Not to mention that because of the skillrequirements the pilots still need some time to skill for them. Still need time to train to fly them... You guys obviously didnt notice the outpost construction 5 requirement for the titan construction skill... As well as i beleive capital ship construction 5 for the motherships and titans i beleive... Originally by: MAXSuicide only carebears call pvpers 'greifers' ehehehh....
Deovina	Posted - 2005.12.07 19:05:00 - [21] Originally by: Agent Kenshin Originally by: Deovina Considering that around 1.2-1.4 trillion ISK were spent on Capital Blueprings (Dreads, Freighters, Components) evewide, the Titan BPO price is high but reasonable. Not to mention that because of the skillrequirements the pilots still need some time to skill for them. Still need time to train to fly them... You guys obviously didnt notice the outpost construction 5 requirement for the titan construction skill... As well as i beleive capital ship construction 5 for the motherships and titans i beleive... errm did I say anything different?
Blacklight	Posted - 2005.12.07 19:08:00 - [22] /me shakes out his piggy bank.... Hmmm going to have to raid the corp wallet again Eve Blacklight Style
djenghis jan	Posted - 2005.12.07 19:08:00 - [23] I don't think they are too expensive. I think that a large alliance can build one in no time. I can't wait to see the first fleetbattle video with one being pounded on by 30 dreads.
Noriath	Posted - 2005.12.07 19:23:00 - [24] Well I guess the real problem is that this is again a moneysink at the wrong end of the game. What really needs a money sink is the empire people who can make 10 billion of running missions and selling named items, not the alliances who already have to grind their butts off to finance their style of play because owning a galactic empire just doesn't seem to bring in any money...
So'Kar	Posted - 2005.12.07 19:27:00 - [25] For that price it deserves more hp than it has on sisi. For example amarr titan have 50k shield, 70k armour and 75k structure. Its lot, but risk is worth billions plus anything that is inside the titan.
BlackHawk177	Posted - 2005.12.07 19:46:00 - [26] Edited by: BlackHawk177 on 07/12/2005 19:46:22 ^ but then we can all laugh when you see it unleash the superweapon of utter doom and destroy the enemy fleet... and the friendly fleet... Can we shoot them yet?
Rexthor Hammerfists	Posted - 2005.12.07 19:54:00 - [27] Quote: /me shakes out his piggy bank.... does that mean no xmas extra money for us? whatever, im happy with that prices, only the most advanced corps should b able to build that monsters.
Seleene	Posted - 2005.12.07 19:55:00 - [28] Originally by: Blacklight /me shakes out his piggy bank.... Hmmm going to have to raid the corp wallet again Stop drinking for a week and you could get one right after the patch I bet!! - The REAL Eve Political Map!
Malthros Zenobia	Posted - 2005.12.07 20:48:00 - [29] Originally by: The Wizz117 they should be afford able for evry corporation. even the small ones. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA God, stop man, you're making my sides hurt. ------------------------------------ Inappropriate signature -zhuge
slip66	Posted - 2005.12.07 22:18:00 - [30] Originally by: The Wizz117 so aboud 10 players in eve actualy ged to fly this ship and will probitly not fly it much couse they dont want to looose it. and ccp spend all theyr time on theyr office on that? here is where the titan hype ends. they should be afford able for evry corporation. even the small ones. Uhhhh NO F'ING WAY. There should only be a mere hand full.
Boonaki	Posted - 2005.12.07 22:25:00 - [31] For the next year I think maybe 1 to 3 will be built. Period... I doubt/hope they don't stay at those prices, a BPC alone would cost a couple of billion. Fear the Ibis of doom.
Mousey	Posted - 2005.12.07 22:35:00 - [32] 1 - 3? so 1 for RKK 1 for evol 1 for bnc what the other corps gonna do?
Tauruz	Posted - 2005.12.07 22:41:00 - [33] Originally by: Mousey 1 - 3? so 1 for RKK 1 for evol 1 for bnc what the other corps gonna do? hide?
Boonaki	Posted - 2005.12.07 23:09:00 - [34] Edited by: Boonaki on 07/12/2005 23:10:50 I'm actually not looking forward to when we get a titan, I know whoever is doomed to live in that thing is gonna be superBBQing the rest of us. I know that's what I'd do! edit all the major alliances have to do is sell their tech 2 BPO's in order to buy all the BPO's required. Fear the Ibis of doom.
MysticNZ	Posted - 2005.12.07 23:19:00 - [35] And what's the bet, after building one for 6 months you lose it to an ingame bug and the GM's go "MUAHAHA PAWNED!!!!!@!" Originally by: Nyphur I'm hungry and naked. That answer your question?
Kharakan	Posted - 2005.12.07 23:30:00 - [36] Originally by: The Wizz117 so aboud 10 players in eve actualy ged to fly this ship and will probitly not fly it much couse they dont want to looose it. and ccp spend all theyr time on theyr office on that? here is where the titan hype ends. they should be afford able for evry corporation. even the small ones. I vote that the devs give this guy a titan, of whatever race he wants! Then: 1. The devs lock him into it, making sure that he can't leave it. 2. They make it indestructible, so he can't get out of it via selfdestruct or attacking. 3. They remove the jumpdrive. Then he can have fun owning an entire system... forever =D Then we can ask him whether it's really a good idea for small corps to have titans ^__^
Mned Graydroggen	Posted - 2005.12.07 23:51:00 - [37] I like these price tags. Fitting the monsterous size these ships have.
Ramius Monteagne	Posted - 2005.12.08 02:51:00 - [38] I am not against the price. I think that is about right for the type of ship. What I hate is the copy times on the BPO. Either this is just another BLATANT ISK sink by CCP or someone was smoking something they should not. Let me put it this way, the people that actually decide to buy a BPO will use it to build 1 (maybe 2) Carriers, taking about 6 weeks each (after all the comps have been built). Then they are going to let it sit there and gather dust as well they will not want to sell cheap copies to their 'enemies' and allow them to get a Titan as well. Hell no that would just not be fair. So it is going to sit ther and go mouldy. No other non-aligned corp is going to invest in it and make copies at a reasonable price (3-5 Bill) as it will take YEARS to break even because it will tak eyou 4 months to run off a single copy and 6 month to research it to ME 1. Copy time should be NO MORE than 20% creater than construction time. Then there is opportunity for people other than alliances to be involved in this kind of project. This should also apply to all Capital class ships. Copy time should be no more than 20% more than build time. OK so you can build quicker off the BPO but you can still make it worth while running bpc's. The only reason I can see for CCP to do it this way is that they DO NOT want ANY Titan BPC's in the game. The other though would be for CCP to release 1 run BPC's at 10 billion isk from NPC agents so that there is another path other than buying the bpo. Ramius Monteagne Forge Region Commander Celestial Horizon Corporation A battle plan lasts until the first enemy engagement.
D'uu M'ii	Posted - 2005.12.08 03:32:00 - [39] Just steal one, DUH! First one stolen will make BIG news.
Wrayeth	Posted - 2005.12.08 03:33:00 - [40] Ugh... Well, I'm poor and can barely keep my ships insured, so I'm never going to fly any of those, unfortunately, and never going to fly a dread either. /sigh -Wrayeth Go away.
Rawne Karrde	Posted - 2005.12.08 05:02:00 - [41] Is it me or does the fact that titans & motherships cannot dock mean they cannot be insured? Man thats gonna take balls to fly....
Uggs386	Posted - 2005.12.08 06:38:00 - [42] Those prices arent as bad as i thought tbh.
Sobeseki Pawi	Posted - 2005.12.08 06:49:00 - [43] Titans and Motherships shouldnt even have BPOs on the npc market. Single run BPCs at the same prices. ~Sobe Originally by: TomB Originally by: Darpz Originally by: Sobeseki Pawi CCP will nerf this probably, but hey, worth a try so your saying I should of kept my mouth shut? Yup.
Darwinia	Posted - 2005.12.08 07:19:00 - [44] Originally by: Rawne Karrde Is it me or does the fact that titans & motherships cannot dock mean they cannot be insured? Man thats gonna take balls to fly.... Did the Death Star have insurance?
aeti	Posted - 2005.12.08 07:48:00 - [45] Originally by: Rawne Karrde Is it me or does the fact that titans & motherships cannot dock mean they cannot be insured? Man thats gonna take balls to fly.... yes, but in the same way they are immune to ew, hence can never be warp scrambled :P
Snake Jankins	Posted - 2005.12.08 07:49:00 - [46] Edited by: Snake Jankins on 08/12/2005 07:49:45 75 bil shouldn't be impossible for a big alliance. In my first 2 months 0.0 I made about 1.1 billion isk cash plus all the new ships and equipment that I got. A friend of mine even more. Ok, the money is gone now, but if an alliance has 1000 members, it should be possible to make 75 billion isk for that purpose. Not to mention all the alliances, corps and single players that are known to be ultra rich. I see it as a group effort. Like the egypts built the pyramids, big alliances built titans. Ok, hope they don't force their workers in the same way to participate. ___________ 'Only ships can be assembled, this is a Frigate.'
Raem Civrie	Posted - 2005.12.08 08:03:00 - [47] The money isn't the problem, the logistics is. These ships are manufactured at a PoS. It takes 6-8 weeks to do this. If someone puts that thing into reinforced mode while the titan is still in the cooker, all minerals and progress are lost. That's the crux of the problem, and the real challenge. With outposts you have 24 hours of tension while the egg goes online. With Titans you have 8 weeks of tension while it's being built. Between infiltrators, spies, saboteurs, fleets of dreads roaming about and people forgetting to fuel their bases, getting that titan built is going to be a challenge. --- God-King of Genitalia
Gairon Fay	Posted - 2005.12.08 08:04:00 - [48] Originally by: Darwinia Originally by: Rawne Karrde Is it me or does the fact that titans & motherships cannot dock mean they cannot be insured? Man thats gonna take balls to fly.... Did the Death Star have insurance? I¦m sure it did, Wookie Inc had a paydeal on it. ------------------------------------------------ From the Shadows, he watches... It¦s safer there.
Sobeseki Pawi	Posted - 2005.12.08 08:11:00 - [49] Originally by: Raem Civrie The money isn't the problem, the logistics is. These ships are manufactured at a PoS. It takes 6-8 weeks to do this. If someone puts that thing into reinforced mode while the titan is still in the cooker, all minerals and progress are lost. That's the crux of the problem, and the real challenge. With outposts you have 24 hours of tension while the egg goes online. With Titans you have 8 weeks of tension while it's being built. Between infiltrators, spies, saboteurs, fleets of dreads roaming about and people forgetting to fuel their bases, getting that titan built is going to be a challenge. You can bet that there will be at least one entity that is already prepared to find and kill that POS. In a way, it almost seems not worth it to build a Titan. ~Sobe Originally by: TomB Originally by: Darpz Originally by: Sobeseki Pawi CCP will nerf this probably, but hey, worth a try so your saying I should of kept my mouth shut? Yup.
Kuolematon	Posted - 2005.12.08 08:19:00 - [50] heads to eBay ________________________________________________________
Darwinia	Posted - 2005.12.08 08:24:00 - [51] Originally by: Raem Civrie The money isn't the problem, the logistics is. These ships are manufactured at a PoS. It takes 6-8 weeks to do this. If someone puts that thing into reinforced mode while the titan is still in the cooker, all minerals and progress are lost. That's the crux of the problem, and the real challenge. With outposts you have 24 hours of tension while the egg goes online. With Titans you have 8 weeks of tension while it's being built. Between infiltrators, spies, saboteurs, fleets of dreads roaming about and people forgetting to fuel their bases, getting that titan built is going to be a challenge. Hear hear! I never looked at it that way, but it makes perfect sense. Building a titan is going to be a big pain in the ass indeed.
MOS DEF	Posted - 2005.12.08 09:26:00 - [52] Edited by: MOS DEF on 08/12/2005 09:26:59 Originally by: Snake Jankins Edited by: Snake Jankins on 08/12/2005 07:55:51 75 bil shouldn't be impossible for a big alliance. In my first 2 months 0.0 I made about 1.1 billion isk cash plus all the new ships and equipment that I got. A friend of mine even more. Ok, the money is gone now, but if an alliance has 1000 members, it should be possible to make 75 billion isk for that purpose. Not to mention all the alliances, corps and single players that are known to be ultra rich. I see it as a group effort. Like the egypts built the pyramids, big alliances build titans. Ok, hope they don't force their workers in the same way to participate. Making the money probably is no show stopper. Looking at how much more useful things you can do with that money is though. You can raise a fleet that would omgbbq a titan in such a rediculous time easy with that money. The superweapon isn't all that impressive that it justifies the cost IMO. While looking at the price and then looking at what it can do i'd say it will be a status symbol and not much more. Edit: Ok no bbq since the titans can't be EW'd.
F'nog	Posted - 2005.12.08 10:34:00 - [53] Originally by: Darwinia Originally by: Rawne Karrde Is it me or does the fact that titans & motherships cannot dock mean they cannot be insured? Man thats gonna take balls to fly.... Did the Death Star have insurance? What about all the poor construction personnel on the second version? Why won't someone think of them????? Originally by: rowbin hod Fragm's Oversized Ego Cannon barely scratches the forums, inflicting omgnoonecares damage.
Nifel	Posted - 2005.12.08 10:59:00 - [54] Originally by: MOS DEF Edited by: MOS DEF on 08/12/2005 09:26:59 Originally by: Snake Jankins Edited by: Snake Jankins on 08/12/2005 07:55:51 75 bil shouldn't be impossible for a big alliance. In my first 2 months 0.0 I made about 1.1 billion isk cash plus all the new ships and equipment that I got. A friend of mine even more. Ok, the money is gone now, but if an alliance has 1000 members, it should be possible to make 75 billion isk for that purpose. Not to mention all the alliances, corps and single players that are known to be ultra rich. I see it as a group effort. Like the egypts built the pyramids, big alliances build titans. Ok, hope they don't force their workers in the same way to participate. Making the money probably is no show stopper. Looking at how much more useful things you can do with that money is though. You can raise a fleet that would omgbbq a titan in such a rediculous time easy with that money. The superweapon isn't all that impressive that it justifies the cost IMO. While looking at the price and then looking at what it can do i'd say it will be a status symbol and not much more. Edit: Ok no bbq since the titans can't be EW'd. The justification is to be able to jump an entire fleet with the titan, it's the super nice gang bonuses you get with the titan, it's the base of operations you can move around. "We wield swords for the sound of laughter that used to be there long ago." RKK Ranking: (MIN12) Marinda
Ikvar	Posted - 2005.12.08 11:06:00 - [55] Not like you can't afford it, Seleene! Originally by: Avon I actually enjoy crafting in EQ2.
marioman	Posted - 2005.12.08 11:21:00 - [56] While i have no issues with the pricing and times and what not (could really care less) I can't help but find it ironic in a way that its taken CCP close to 3 years to make something only 5 people are going to use lol
Herko Kerghans	Posted - 2005.12.08 11:31:00 - [57] Originally by: MOS DEF Making the money probably is no show stopper. Looking at how much more useful things you can do with that money is though. You can raise a fleet that would omgbbq a titan in such a rediculous time easy with that money. Well, the same can be said with, say, t1 frigs and a HAC. The point is, for the really big alliance, what limits their power is the quantity of pilots and not the price of the ships. 10 HACs will kill 10 t1 frigs over and over and over; 1 Titan and 9 HAC will fry 10 HACs the exact same way. And looks like CCP is increasingly focusing 0.0 warfare into infrastructure warfare (they way it should be). As Raem says above, a Titan takes 6 weeks to build... can you guess what will be the task of the first Titan ever built? - Barriers - an EVE novel
Heavenly Explorer	Posted - 2005.12.08 11:36:00 - [58] Hmmm carriers and mothership BPO's are about what I expected, titans a little more than I would've guessed but i ugess thats good thing. Alliances will still get titans pretty fast though, whoever gets one first will have a hugeadvantage over their enemies.
Seleene	Posted - 2005.12.08 12:49:00 - [59] Originally by: F'nog Originally by: Darwinia Originally by: Rawne Karrde Is it me or does the fact that titans & motherships cannot dock mean they cannot be insured? Man thats gonna take balls to fly.... Did the Death Star have insurance? What about all the poor construction personnel on the second version? Why won't someone think of them????? "All right, look... Rou're a roofer, and some juicy government contract comes your way; you got the wife and kids and the two-story in suburbia. This is a government contract, which means all sorts of benefits. All of a sudden these left-wing militants blast you with lasers and wipe out everyone within a three-mile radius! You didn't ask for that! You have no personal politics. You're just trying to sc***out a living!!" Originally by:** Ikvar Not like you can't afford it, Seleene! Shhhhh! looks around We're not a threat to anyone. - The REAL Eve Political Map!
F'nog	Posted - 2005.12.08 18:13:00 - [60] Woot, Seleene got the reference first. Have a cookie! Originally by: rowbin hod Fragm's Oversized Ego Cannon barely scratches the forums, inflicting omgnoonecares damage.
Posmart	Posted - 2005.12.09 01:50:00 - [61] Originally by: marioman ... I can't help but find it ironic in a way that its taken CCP close to 3 years to make something only 5 people are going to use lol Or, looking at it another way, I can't help but find it admirable that CCP took 3 years over something that's incredibly important to their game. 75bill has its own built-in guarantee - as long as a game is not corrupted by eBay, a Titan is a huge in-game signifier of the game's own (a) previous attraction to players and (b) confidence in its own long-term future.* The "5 people" who are going to use one? It's a credit to this game that it has at least 5 players who think so long-term that Titans are even a possibility for the developer. Makes my head spin....can you think 2, 3, 4 years ahead? *confidence fully justified by subscription figures
Rafein	Posted - 2005.12.09 05:34:00 - [62] Anone willing to fly out to an ORE station and see if they have Tech 2 mining barge BPO's for sale? I'm assuming they will be sold by NPC's, unless anyone kows of a ORE research agent.
Herko Kerghans	Posted - 2005.12.09 05:40:00 - [63] Originally by: Rafein Anone willing to fly out to an ORE station and see if they have Tech 2 mining barge BPO's for sale?. If it is T2, then they will be seeded to players by the research lottery (as any other t2 ships) Capital Ships are t1, that's why you buy the BPO from NPCs Barriers - an EVE novel
VossKarr	Posted - 2005.12.09 05:45:00 - [64] Originally by: Herko Kerghans Originally by: Rafein Anone willing to fly out to an ORE station and see if they have Tech 2 mining barge BPO's for sale?. If it is T2, then they will be seeded to players by the research lottery (as any other t2 ships) Capital Ships are t1, that's why you buy the BPO from NPCs Do you know any ORE research agents?
Herko Kerghans	Posted - 2005.12.09 06:53:00 - [65] Edited by: Herko Kerghans on 09/12/2005 06:58:53 Originally by: VossKarr Do you know any ORE research agents? The Malediction is 'developed' by Khanid Innovation, which AFAIK has no agents either. EDIT: I stand corrected, they do. Barriers - an EVE novel
Rafein	Posted - 2005.12.09 07:09:00 - [66] Edited by: Rafein on 09/12/2005 07:09:10 well, to aquire Caldari ship BPO's, you need Caldari ship Engineering, and Caldari RnD agents. ORE is not tied to any faction, so getting them from any factional agent does not make sense. They are not gallente, so Gal agents should not offer them, same with Amarr, Caldari, and Minmatar. Hence, I think they will be purchased.
Redblade	Posted - 2005.12.09 07:10:00 - [67] Originally by: Seleene Originally by: F'nog Originally by: Darwinia Originally by: Rawne Karrde Is it me or does the fact that titans & motherships cannot dock mean they cannot be insured? Man thats gonna take balls to fly.... Did the Death Star have insurance? What about all the poor construction personnel on the second version? Why won't someone think of them????? "All right, look... Rou're a roofer, and some juicy government contract comes your way; you got the wife and kids and the two-story in suburbia. This is a government contract, which means all sorts of benefits. All of a sudden these left-wing militants blast you with lasers and wipe out everyone within a three-mile radius! You didn't ask for that! You have no personal politics. You're just trying to sc***out a living!!" Originally by:** Ikvar Not like you can't afford it, Seleene! Shhhhh! looks around We're not a threat to anyone. I'm alive because I knew there were risks involved taking on that particular client. My friend wasn't so lucky. (pauses to reflect) You know, any contractor willing to work on that Death Star knew the risks. If they were killed, it was their own fault. A roofer listens to this... (taps his heart) not his wallet. One of the best movies ever.
Alex Harumichi	Posted - 2005.12.09 09:58:00 - [68] Originally by: Kharakan [ Then he can have fun owning an entire system... forever =D Then we can ask him whether it's really a good idea for small corps to have titans ^__^ Well, I don't know. Being able to say "I claim Pator!" and back it up with force would be sort of cool.
Zyrla Bladestorm	Posted - 2005.12.09 10:30:00 - [69] Originally by: Rafein Edited by: Rafein on 09/12/2005 07:09:10 well, to aquire Caldari ship BPO's, you need Caldari ship Engineering, and Caldari RnD agents. ORE is not tied to any faction, so getting them from any factional agent does not make sense. They are not gallente, so Gal agents should not offer them, same with Amarr, Caldari, and Minmatar. Hence, I think they will be purchased. Most TII BPO's need two research skills to build, and you can get a drop via either of them. For instance for minmatar ships that is usually Minmatar Starship Engineering and Mechanical Engineering. T2 barges could say use mechanical engineering, electrical engineering, and so on, leading to it dropping from any of those categorys. . ----- Apologies for any rambling that may have just occurred.
Waut	Posted - 2005.12.09 11:05:00 - [70] Originally by: Seleene Oh man, I love this game! Indeed. Titans should be rare. No fun if every noob like me could fly or even pay one Plans for galaxy domination: Step 1. Steal lots of underpants Step 2. Step 3. Get declared as Eve Emperor
sonofollo	Posted - 2005.12.09 11:13:00 - [71] t2 BPCs oveur himself stated will start to be dropped by agents (rare mission rewards) and some high end rat drops but also very very rare. So i am guessing that t2 BPCs for the elite mining barges will come this way perhaps via ORE agents
Angus Therm0pyle	Posted - 2005.12.09 12:25:00 - [72] yo I bet 100mil isk that ascn alliance will have the first titan tbh ---------------
Spy4Hire	Posted - 2005.12.09 13:35:00 - [73] titan + 10/10 complex = solo w/ 1 shot per 'room', spend an hour picking up the loot, jump to next room, rinse & repeat. Complex pharming made simple.
danneh	Posted - 2005.12.09 13:45:00 - [74] Originally by: Angus Therm0pyle yo I bet 100mil isk that ascn alliance will have the first titan tbh My guess is bob.
Alazais	Posted - 2005.12.09 13:47:00 - [75] Not worth it, 10/10 complex's kinda laggy... don't want to freeze up and have all those citadel torps blow you up.. don't think you're Allance would be too pleased you lost their Titan... imo anyone taking a Titan into a 10/10 is a few fries short of a happy meal.
Blitz0r	Posted - 2006.01.11 13:32:00 - [76] Originally by: BlackHawk177 Edited by: BlackHawk177 on 07/12/2005 19:46:22 ^ but then we can all laugh when you see it unleash the superweapon of utter doom and destroy the enemy fleet... and the friendly fleet... Ur missing one thing!! :) The titan can activate its doomsday device THROUGH a Cyno Field. M.Corp BPC Packages
Omber Zombie	Posted - 2006.01.11 14:11:00 - [77] Originally by: Blitz0r Ur missing one thing!! :) The titan can activate its doomsday device THROUGH a Cyno Field. gratz on the necromancy ---------------------- Originally by: Seleene I maintain that OZ is evil and have nothing further to add.

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