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Iella Wesirri
Dead Rats Tell No Tales
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Posted - 2013.07.17 02:11:00 -
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I'm not sure if it was you or not. I'm pretty sure you were in the fleet, if not the FC. It was about 2 years ago, so memory fades a bit. lol |
S Byerley
The Manhattan Engineer District
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Posted - 2013.07.17 03:11:00 -
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Liltha wrote:Tobias Hareka wrote:Vince Snetterton wrote:I just don't know if there are enough people angry enough to stop the griefers. Angry about what? Someone running incursions the way they were meant to be run? Ah an arguement as old as online gaming. I remember an event back in EQ where most people wanted to farm special mobs that would pop up but it went completely counter to the spirit of the event, they would scream and holler and promise vile horrific death to anyone that dared do the event as intended. Only difference is that in eve you have to power to enforce your view on how the incursions should work like this fellow seems to be trying to.
It was generally a lot easier to disrupt something in EQ than it is in Eve... before instancing anyway.
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Johnny Aurilen
At Death's Door
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Posted - 2013.07.17 04:53:00 -
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When will the ganker theorist understand that we keep alts on gates for a reason. We see you land on gate with a gank fleet. We will sacrifice that alt to preload concord on the grid and laugh as you burn. |
ShipToaster
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Posted - 2013.07.17 19:52:00 -
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Goldiiee wrote:
A. An acceptable Logi pilot takes a few months to train.
B. No good fleet allows anyone to run more than one Logi'
C. All logis must be on coms. failure to respond to coms results in getting Kicked from fleet.
D. Nobody get to logi in a good fleet without having spent a couple months getting checked out.
E. Average EVE players don't dedicate that much time for a single 'chance' to see a fleet die in one possible site.
A. Waiting is a problem for EVE players now? When did that happen? Two characters on an account makes this a lot less painful now.
B. You imagined the word multiboxing was present here? It was not.
C. See above, no multiboxing was mentioned, one pilot per logi with nothing to indicate they have hostile intent.
D. EVE players have no problem with waiting to smash their enemies and many hold grudges forever.
E. Incursion runners are not average EVE players and a large number of them have a mental illness that allows them to do the same repetitive content over and over and over and over. Not sure about the one chance aspect either as this seems like wishful thinking on your part.
No real hostile entity has taken an interest in incursion runners. You need someone like goons, organisation and will aplenty, to take a dislike to you. I meant incursion runners here but how are relations between goons and 401k who you see a lot in ISN fleets?
Johnny Aurilen wrote:When will the ganker theorist understand that we keep alts on gates for a reason. We see you land on gate with a gank fleet. We will sacrifice that alt to preload concord on the grid and laugh as you burn.
Have CCP changed CONCORD so alpha and jamming for the cycle no longer works?
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Goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
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Posted - 2013.07.17 20:25:00 -
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ShipToaster wrote: Edited for brevity
The OP was calling on incursion runners to stop Incursion runners by using the Ganking mechanic. Incursion runners tend to be a group of Instant Gratification, Whiny, Prima Dona's with very limited foresight or patience. Hence why they run incursions rather than the plethora of other things to do in EVE to make ISK.
So the boxing seemed to be the primary tool suggested for ganking or jamming a fleet intent on removing the Incursion and therefore the ISK everyone is making so I was using a Boxing group of logi as an example. If you think there are 10 people out there willing to train Logi 5, get in ship, get the trust of a community, and then get one chance to see the fleet go down in flames then you are right there is a 20 page long public ban list full of their names, they haven't slowed down a group yet and I don't see them doing any better in the near future.
Several fairly large organizations Goons included have attempted to harass Incursion fleets to little or no effect in high sec. That's probably why we have a couple Goons, 401k, Test'ers and few others I can't remember flying incursions right now.
EVE players do wait patiently (Sometimes) months and years to rain death and destruction on their enemies, Incursion runners wait hours to make enough ISK to bury the patient player in bureaucracy with annoying troll comments in local while docked up in a 20billion isk ship and dual boxing on their PVP toon in nul.
But as many of the Incursion runners are friends of mine and I also find a bit of pleasure in making absurd amounts of ISK for/with friends that have nothing better to do while waiting for a CTA, Gate camp victim, or Production of the latest Industry item.
And really? how is running sites over and over any less repetitive than, ganking the same mining barge, ganking misc low sec runner, or the massive alliance Blob fight (TiDi so much fun). Really? hit F1 and then chest pump, or Hit F1 and throw a stale beer at the monitor as you watch isk go down in pixel flames. Repetition is the name of the game with the occasional moment of F2, Alt F1, click click click _________ <- insert Expletive Deleted here
The intellectual part of this game disappears one expansion at a time.
Things that keep me up at night;-á
Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs?
Couch Camoflage, If you sit very still maybe they wont see you. |
jDuncety
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.07.17 21:34:00 -
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Goldiiee wrote:
EVE players do wait patiently (Sometimes) months and years to rain death and destruction on their enemies, Incursion runners wait hours to make enough ISK to bury the patient player in bureaucracy with annoying troll comments in local while docked up in a 20billion isk ship and dual boxing on their PVP toon in nul.
You have fleets of 20 billion isk ships.
I think that when the general eve population knows this you will be flying pods rather rapidly.
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Goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
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Posted - 2013.07.17 21:57:00 -
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jDuncety wrote:Goldiiee wrote:
EVE players do wait patiently (Sometimes) months and years to rain death and destruction on their enemies, Incursion runners wait hours to make enough ISK to bury the patient player in bureaucracy with annoying troll comments in local while docked up in a 20billion isk ship and dual boxing on their PVP toon in nul.
You have fleets of 20 billion isk ships. I think that when the general eve population knows this you will be flying pods rather rapidly.
NO we have fleets worth of over 200bill, the value of the ship is inconsequential when the requirement for attempting to gank one is far in excess of the loot drop possible. This has been tried, I believe Shadow Cartel (Might be wrong) was the last ones I saw, 20 Nados dead and one Mach in half Armor.
It's not that it can't be done, I am sure the numbers can be figured out and a gank fleet could do it. But they need to get into local without the 40 to 50 scouts and alts noticing, land on a fleet without the 40 fleet members noticing, and then call a primary and hit it before the counter reps from 10 expert trained logi's kick in. But yeah It can be done, I imagine the real frustration would come from the fact that the incursion runner (Gank Target) would probably be without a ship for 20 or 30 minutes before he replaced it and was making ISK again.
Incursions are popular for a reason.
Edit; Sorry it was 401k and they actually succeeded recently, I think Chadarass was without a ship and pod for 3 or 4 minutes
Things that keep me up at night;-á
Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs?
Couch Camoflage, If you sit very still maybe they wont see you. |
grrlet
doTheNeedful
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Posted - 2013.07.18 21:39:00 -
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I'm sorry, but I couldn't get past the hypocrisy of the title. Killing the Mom is not griefing just because sad pandas don't want the incursion to end yet. The Mom is fair game once she shows up. Jamming those killing the Mom, to get them to stop because you're a sad panda IS griefing. |
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