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RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2013.07.15 19:06:00 -
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Phaade wrote:I divided the Cane from the zealot by jumping through and having the zealot follow me. I then burned back to the gate, jumped through, and proceeded to beat the hurricane into the ground, until his douchebag falcon alt logged in and landed on me.
Granted, my fit wasn't perfect (it is now), and they are only named mods...but meta guns can be quite effective with faction ammo.
A Logi alt would have resulted in the same thing. A Rapier alt would have let the cane pull range. A Curse alt would have stopped your guns. A DPS alt would have virtually guaranteed your death (though not necessarily prevent you from killing the cane).
Your issue is not with the Falcon or with ECM, it's with friends and prepared opponents. That is the risk you take when you run solo. The had a fallback plan, they were prepared, you were not.
Like I said earlier:
Friends are Overpowered. Nerf Friends. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
Atlas Durham
20th Legion Tribal Band
4
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Posted - 2013.07.15 19:56:00 -
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This is why I absolutely love ECM. |
Burseg Sardaukar
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
314
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Posted - 2013.07.15 20:10:00 -
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Change ECM from chance-based get-out-of-jail free card to a slot-disabling mechanic.
As outlined HERE! I love Dust514. But it needs more EVE. Read my idea on how to do this at General Tso's Alliance blog: http://3xxxd.blogspot.com/2013/06/dust514-uprising-needs-moar-eve.html |
Gneeznow
L'Avant Garde
77
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Posted - 2013.07.15 20:17:00 -
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ECM has been like this forever, it's a huge frustration to small gang pvpers, and that's why I have a falcon alt too, can't beat 'em - fit backup arrays on everything and have a falcon alt follow you around. In theory anyway, I'm actually too lazy to dual box anymore so I just fly cheap stuff with backup arrays and ECCM which isn't so hard to fit since the cruisers all got new slots all over the place.
Things have gotten a little better with those fitting options and those new skills for increasing your sensor strength. I'm still haunted by many a horrible incidents with ECM though, like being in a double ECCM ishtar with a sensor strength of 100 or something and catching a freighter, then some jerk in a falcon pops up out of nowhere and jams me for 40 seconds. It's pretty rage worthy |
Darth Gustav
Interwebs Cooter Explosion Fatal Ascension
2280
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Posted - 2013.07.15 20:21:00 -
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Gneeznow wrote:ECM has been like this forever, it's a huge frustration to small gang pvpers, and that's why I have a falcon alt too, can't beat 'em - fit backup arrays on everything and have a falcon alt follow you around. In theory anyway, I'm actually too lazy to dual box anymore so I just fly cheap stuff with backup arrays and ECCM which isn't so hard to fit since the cruisers all got new slots all over the place.
Things have gotten a little better with those fitting options and those new skills for increasing your sensor strength. I'm still haunted by many a horrible incidents with ECM though, like being in a double ECCM ishtar with a sensor strength of 100 or something and catching a freighter, then some jerk in a falcon pops up out of nowhere and jams me for 40 seconds. It's pretty rage worthy Sentry drones.
Sentry drones.
Sentry drones.
This has been a public service announcement paid for by SENTRY DRONES. He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |
De'Veldrin
Norse'Storm Battle Group Circle-Of-Two
1718
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Posted - 2013.07.15 20:28:00 -
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In Eve, a fair fight is a trap. You fell for the trap. Try not to do it again. GÇ£SandboxGÇ¥ does not mean that you will succeed at anything you attempt; it means you can attempt anything you want to succeed at. One of the largest obstacles in the way of your success is other players. |
DED Capsuleer
DED Drug Enforcement Department
4
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Posted - 2013.07.15 21:00:00 -
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Nor nearly as many as people who have off-grid booster alts.
The biggest problem with ECM is its "in your face" nature. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3091
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Posted - 2013.07.15 21:09:00 -
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If people used FOF missiles more instead of complaining about falcons, we'd have Tech 2 FOF missiles.
Oh I know I know, you can't be a fleet click-F1 slave with FOFs so it's not metal. Right.
Oh and sentry drones. Thanks Darth. |
atpc
Loose Cannons
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Posted - 2013.07.15 22:06:00 -
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I am a falcon alt
I also save my friends from deep structure. |
Ephemeron
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.15 22:21:00 -
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I think ECM does need some kind of adjustment.
I think repeated successful ECM jamming should come with a stacking penalty. That means if you jamm someone once, the next cycle should be harder to get. When you miss a cycle then next once is without stacking penalty
That way ECM can still be very powerful but prevent perma-jams. |
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.15 22:23:00 -
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DED Capsuleer wrote:Nor nearly as many as people who have off-grid booster alts.
The biggest problem with ECM is its "in your face" nature. Mmm, off-grid boosting. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. Fountain will never fall. Deklein by September. Thought is not heresy, wrong thought is.
PL, NC., N3, Tribe, 401k, you are our only hope ! ~TEST2013 |
Alexis Humphrey
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.07.15 22:30:00 -
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Darth Gustav wrote:Gneeznow wrote:ECM has been like this forever, it's a huge frustration to small gang pvpers, and that's why I have a falcon alt too, can't beat 'em - fit backup arrays on everything and have a falcon alt follow you around. In theory anyway, I'm actually too lazy to dual box anymore so I just fly cheap stuff with backup arrays and ECCM which isn't so hard to fit since the cruisers all got new slots all over the place.
Things have gotten a little better with those fitting options and those new skills for increasing your sensor strength. I'm still haunted by many a horrible incidents with ECM though, like being in a double ECCM ishtar with a sensor strength of 100 or something and catching a freighter, then some jerk in a falcon pops up out of nowhere and jams me for 40 seconds. It's pretty rage worthy Sentry drones. Sentry drones. Sentry drones. This has been a public service announcement paid for by SENTRY DRONES.
Ah yes, those Sentry drones with their integral warp disruptors. They're really good. |
Tiberius Mal
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.07.16 01:47:00 -
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i like the idea of trying some fights without ECM, see what the game would do without it. |
Gneeznow
L'Avant Garde
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Posted - 2013.07.16 06:38:00 -
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Darth Gustav wrote:Gneeznow wrote:ECM has been like this forever, it's a huge frustration to small gang pvpers, and that's why I have a falcon alt too, can't beat 'em - fit backup arrays on everything and have a falcon alt follow you around. In theory anyway, I'm actually too lazy to dual box anymore so I just fly cheap stuff with backup arrays and ECCM which isn't so hard to fit since the cruisers all got new slots all over the place.
Things have gotten a little better with those fitting options and those new skills for increasing your sensor strength. I'm still haunted by many a horrible incidents with ECM though, like being in a double ECCM ishtar with a sensor strength of 100 or something and catching a freighter, then some jerk in a falcon pops up out of nowhere and jams me for 40 seconds. It's pretty rage worthy Sentry drones. Sentry drones. Sentry drones. This has been a public service announcement paid for by SENTRY DRONES.
Yeah I love how those sentries tackle stuff for me |
Melikor Tissant
Odd Fluffy Bunnies
9
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Posted - 2013.07.16 07:50:00 -
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I have a blackbird alt. He saved one of my chars in WHs several times from a ganker as I day-tripped there. If the ganker brought a friend, he could have killed both of my chars though, as I suck at pvp.
I don't see anything wrong with it. You have a problem with a falcon or alts? bring a friend, or an alt. |
Darth Gustav
Interwebs Cooter Explosion Fatal Ascension
2283
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Posted - 2013.07.16 19:06:00 -
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Alexis Humphrey wrote:Darth Gustav wrote:Gneeznow wrote:ECM has been like this forever, it's a huge frustration to small gang pvpers, and that's why I have a falcon alt too, can't beat 'em - fit backup arrays on everything and have a falcon alt follow you around. In theory anyway, I'm actually too lazy to dual box anymore so I just fly cheap stuff with backup arrays and ECCM which isn't so hard to fit since the cruisers all got new slots all over the place.
Things have gotten a little better with those fitting options and those new skills for increasing your sensor strength. I'm still haunted by many a horrible incidents with ECM though, like being in a double ECCM ishtar with a sensor strength of 100 or something and catching a freighter, then some jerk in a falcon pops up out of nowhere and jams me for 40 seconds. It's pretty rage worthy Sentry drones. Sentry drones. Sentry drones. This has been a public service announcement paid for by SENTRY DRONES. Ah yes, those Sentry drones with their integral warp disruptors. They're really good. Because of the low EHP of the Falcon, Rook, and especially the Blackbird, Sentry Drones need not tackle anything.
Usually they're exploded in two volleys, less than enough time to align out if they weren't previously.
You'd be surprised how gutsy people can be when they think they have an "I win!" button. He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |
Wingmate
Raven's Flight Nulli Secunda
107
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Posted - 2013.07.16 22:24:00 -
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i made an alt a while ago titled "Because of Falcon". that dude sold faster than any i'd ever made =) |
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