How do you know it was his alt?

Cuz it was the same name with the number 2 at the end of it it lol.

Lately, I've been noticing a lot of what I consider to be not only pathetic, but just plain broken.

All forms of ewar, aside from ECM, are simple debuffs to certain aspects of your ship, and can usually be managed in a fight. ECM can not.

I am 50% into the structure of my target and his pal whilst soloing, and he lands his jackass falcon alt. Yay, perma jammed, fights over, I literally can do nothing but watch my ship blow up.

Anyone else see a problem with this? There are plenty of things that Ewar should do aside from break your lock, which is essentially a 20 second and spammable "stun."

Makes Soloing in PvP a lot less fun.

Did you just come to this conclusion.
ECM OP!
Instead of people at ccp playing with mods no one really cares for and ships(haulers) no one really gives two s****t's about, they should put their thinking cap on and figure a way of making ecm of any and every kind alittle lest OP, even better, take it out of the damn fuc**** game.
Love it when you get perma jammed over 80+km, its like, okay okay, let me pull my draws down and let you have a go at me.

LOL You must not have been playing this game to long.. Not a to long time ago they actually took ECM down a notch.. A falcon was very easily able to jam 4 and five targets from 100+ kms.. SO trust me it can be waaayyy worse

Naaaa he could probably hear you whining in local.........

perfectly natural response for a neutral to come jam you.....

Lately, I've been noticing a lot of what I consider to be not only pathetic, but just plain broken.

All forms of ewar, aside from ECM, are simple debuffs to certain aspects of your ship, and can usually be managed in a fight. ECM can not.

I am 50% into the structure of my target and his pal whilst soloing, and he lands his jackass falcon alt. Yay, perma jammed, fights over, I literally can do nothing but watch my ship blow up.

Anyone else see a problem with this? There are plenty of things that Ewar should do aside from break your lock, which is essentially a 20 second and spammable "stun."

Makes Soloing in PvP a lot less fun.

How would the result have been any different if he had brought in an alt in some other ship? Talos would have killed you, Logi would have let him kill you, Curse would have neuted you, etc. So the fact that it's a Falcon is irrelevant.

Flying solo comes at the risk of being outnumbered. You learned this today. Prepare better next time.

That hit the nail straight on the head. There are 2 solution to solve this. Bring your own alt OR bring a friend. The friend is the super duper solution because then you don't even have to micromanage 2 ships. You can keep doing what you ususally do and the other ship has something controling it without any inputs coming from you. It's basicly like hacking except there is nothing illegal about it and it gives you someone to talk to during your roam while you are looking for targts.

Super duper OP I tell you.

Anybody that plays EVE solo and expects to win should be running missions (!)

This just in, I already won.

This just in, I already won.

OOOH OOOOOOH! Angel Extravaganza for the 1,048,576th time!

Did you remember to blow up the thing and scoop the Skill Hardwiring?!?

Of course you did...

More like Angel Exageration.

Drama queen much?

I don't see a problem here at all.

If you had been in a drone boat using sentry drones the Falcon would have been:

a) Useless
b) Dead, if he didn't bail out in a timely fashion.

ECM stops vessels that rely on maintaining a lock from combat, but saying ECM can't be managed in a fight is absolutely wrong.

You're right, the falcon only counters 97% of ships, not EVERY one. And no, it can't be managed without that particular ship and that particular setup. Better have the sentries out and not the hammerheads (or whatever).

Saying that I should have a specific ship, with a specific drone is hardly a reasonable response. Add the fact that my drones stick to current target, and I can't tell them to switch without locking a target (yes, i could have put them on the Falcon if i reacted fast enough) makes your argument even weaker.

It's particularly irritating when he simply logs on the falcon; his alt was not in local.

You don't see the obvious shenanigans involved in this situation? ECM is not cool man, it's not cool. All other ewar (including neuts) are far cooler / more reasonable than ECM.

Alas, the threads are full of "DEAL WITH IT" instead of discussing any sort of true... balance, for lack of a better word.

Friends are Overpowered. Nerf Friends.

Anybody that plays EVE solo and expects to win should be running missions (!)

I have a Falcon main, does that count?

You're right, the falcon only counters 97% of ships, not EVERY one. And no, it can't be managed without that particular ship and that particular setup. Better have the sentries out and not the hammerheads (or whatever).

Saying that I should have a specific ship, with a specific drone is hardly a reasonable response. Add the fact that my drones stick to current target, and I can't tell them to switch without locking a target (yes, i could have put them on the Falcon if i reacted fast enough) makes your argument even weaker.

It's particularly irritating when he simply logs on the falcon; his alt was not in local.

You don't see the obvious shenanigans involved in this situation? ECM is not cool man, it's not cool. All other ewar (including neuts) are far cooler / more reasonable than ECM.

Alas, the threads are full of "DEAL WITH IT" instead of discussing any sort of true... balance, for lack of a better word.

Only if you use dps alts.

Masterstroke, right there. On the EVEO General Discussion forums.

I was there.

It was bad and you should feel bad for even pretending it was good.

I actually thought it was a thought-provoking comment that led one to ponder the meaning of "main" and "alt" in a world with isboxer and the like.

there's a simple solution to fighting ECM - Drones....

Yes... you cant switch targets.... once jammed.

But if CCP ever gets around to making a drone INTERFACE! then there should be a priority setting for attack than can overrule current targets.

IE. SET DRONES TO PRIMARY ECM. or nuets or assult frigs or cruisers or a titan ETC ETC / whatever you decide to set it at.


That's the only problem i have with ecm. it shouldn't disable your ability to command your drones AS WELL as stop your targeting...



Dringy o7.

Or they could make ECM more of a defensive system where you blanket a zone around your ship with white noise making targetting a ship in that zone a real PITA but you could still lock targets out of the coverage of the ECM ship. Isn't that how ECM work on planes anyway?

Lately, I've been noticing a lot of what I consider to be not only pathetic, but just plain broken.

All forms of ewar, aside from ECM, are simple debuffs to certain aspects of your ship, and can usually be managed in a fight. ECM can not.

I am 50% into the structure of my target and his pal whilst soloing, and he lands his jackass falcon alt. Yay, perma jammed, fights over, I literally can do nothing but watch my ship blow up.

Anyone else see a problem with this? There are plenty of things that Ewar should do aside from break your lock, which is essentially a 20 second and spammable "stun."

Makes Soloing in PvP a lot less fun.

You loose, he wins. End of story. Come better prepared next time.
inb4 Falcon
http://zkillboard.com/detail/31919460/
I callout bullshit on this being a close fight

Anyone else see a problem with this? There are plenty of things that Ewar should do aside from break your lock, which is essentially a 20 second and spammable "stun."

Makes Soloing in PvP a lot less fun.

Bring 2 falcon alt with you.

I like ewar I think it should be buffed, its an under used resource, plus there are counters to it and skills you can learn to buff your sensor strength. Disruption cruisers exist to ruin your day, the falcon it seems did just that.

Mate, I can remember situations where my ECCM'ed Ishtar with Info Link that had like 50 sensor strength was jammed the full 60 seconds it took to deagress by a single blackbird.

Please don't say you can counter ECM, because randomness is not a counter. A Counter would be you could launch anti measures and if these happen to be within a small timescale of the activation of the ECM mod the ECM would malfunction.

If you think that's bad, don't play WoW. It's now being called the World of Stuncraft.

At least the priests can't endlessly mana burn now. But there's so much CC that players are perma stunlocked and simply die.

Fitting an EECM is so so difficult.

Staying out of range is so so difficult.

Running away if out fitted, out numbered, out smarted is so so difficult.

Eve is hard.

Pew pew pew...

* Falcon lands on grid *

pew pew ....

Huh no lock... but... but...

* mashes lock button till he pops *

????

* Rages on forum *

You loose, he wins. End of story. Come better prepared next time.
inb4 Falcon
http://zkillboard.com/detail/31919460/
I callout bullshit on this being a close fight

Lately, I've been noticing a lot of what I consider to be not only pathetic, but just plain broken.

All forms of ewar, aside from ECM, are simple debuffs to certain aspects of your ship, and can usually be managed in a fight. ECM can not.

I am 50% into the structure of my target and his pal whilst soloing, and he lands his jackass falcon alt. Yay, perma jammed, fights over, I literally can do nothing but watch my ship blow up.

Anyone else see a problem with this? There are plenty of things that Ewar should do aside from break your lock, which is essentially a 20 second and spammable "stun."

Makes Soloing in PvP a lot less fun.

I divided the Cane from the zealot by jumping through and having the zealot follow me. I then burned back to the gate, jumped through, and proceeded to beat the hurricane into the ground, until his douchebag falcon alt logged in and landed on me.

Granted, my fit wasn't perfect (it is now), and they are only named mods...but meta guns can be quite effective with faction ammo.

ECM has been like this forever, it's a huge frustration to small gang pvpers, and that's why I have a falcon alt too, can't beat 'em - fit backup arrays on everything and have a falcon alt follow you around. In theory anyway, I'm actually too lazy to dual box anymore so I just fly cheap stuff with backup arrays and ECCM which isn't so hard to fit since the cruisers all got new slots all over the place.

Things have gotten a little better with those fitting options and those new skills for increasing your sensor strength. I'm still haunted by many a horrible incidents with ECM though, like being in a double ECCM ishtar with a sensor strength of 100 or something and catching a freighter, then some jerk in a falcon pops up out of nowhere and jams me for 40 seconds. It's pretty rage worthy

Nor nearly as many as people who have off-grid booster alts.

The biggest problem with ECM is its "in your face" nature.

Sentry drones.

Sentry drones.

Sentry drones.

This has been a public service announcement paid for by SENTRY DRONES.

Sentry drones.

Sentry drones.

Sentry drones.

This has been a public service announcement paid for by SENTRY DRONES.

Ah yes, those Sentry drones with their integral warp disruptors. They're really good.