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Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
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Posted - 2013.07.15 16:00:00 -
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http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/66895-Apocalypse-Size-isnt-everything-mision-runner.html
As the name implies,looking for feedback, don't judge me for the diags , I'm currently skilling up to address the grid issues
If in doubt...do...excessively. |
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
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Posted - 2013.07.15 16:29:00 -
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Yikes. I don't like it. Plate plus repper: not good. Not using all your gun slots: not good. Utter lack of hardeners: very bad.
Maybe try something like this:
[Apocalypse, basic semi-tanky mishin t1 guns low skills]
Large 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I
Prototype Armor EM Hardener I
Prototype Armor Thermic Hardener I
Prototype Armor EM Hardener I
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Optical Tracking Computer I, Optimal Range Script
Large Micro Jump Drive
Mega Modulated Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Modulated Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Modulated Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Modulated Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Modulated Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Modulated Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Modulated Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Modulated Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
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Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.15 22:45:00 -
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it's hard to build a good mission apocalypse without T2 pulse lasers. zhilla's fit will probably get you through most missions but it will not really shine until you can use scorch.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |
Cage Man
244
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Posted - 2013.07.16 00:13:00 -
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I would drop the MJD and put cap booster, replace the cap mods with tracking and\or sebo.
The thick plottens... |
Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
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Posted - 2013.07.16 07:45:00 -
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Daniel Plain wrote:it's hard to build a good mission apocalypse without T2 pulse lasers. zhilla's fit will probably get you through most missions but it will not really shine until you can use scorch.
I'm aware of the scorch thing, but as you would imagine, sp issue there.
As for zhillas fit, iv been running something similar but wanted to experiment a bit, however after running worlds collide last night I'm leaning back twords it .
Ill post it when I get back home
Cheers for the feedback lads, much apreciated.
If in doubt...do...excessively. |
Marc Callan
Interstellar Steel
Templis Dragonaors
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Posted - 2013.07.16 08:27:00 -
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For PVE active tanks, my rule is resists before buffer, always.
And overgunning a ship is a common rookie mistake; I was guilty of it myself on many occasions. Tachyons are always going to be a tough fit; they're power-hogs. Stepping down to mega beams (and using eight, not seven, on an eight-turret ship), like Zhilia suggests, should free up some fitting room.
"Nevertheless a prince ought to inspire fear in such a way that, if he does not win love, he avoids hatred..."
- Niccolo Machiavelli-á |
The Djego
Hellequin Inc.
Mean Coalition
126
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Posted - 2013.07.16 09:01:00 -
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You should consider Puls for the better tracking and the lower cap use. This is something I designed as a starter fitting for newer players:
[Apocalypse, L4 start]
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Armor EM Hardener II
Large Armor Repairer II
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Cap Recharger II
Experimental 100MN Afterburner I
Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Xray L
Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Xray L
Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Xray L
Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Xray L
Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Xray L
Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Xray L
Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Xray L
Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Xray L
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Improve discharge rigging: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=246166&find=unread
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Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
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Posted - 2013.07.16 09:55:00 -
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Marc Callan wrote:For PVE active tanks, my rule is resists before buffer, always.
And overgunning a ship is a common rookie mistake; I was guilty of it myself on many occasions. Tachyons are always going to be a tough fit; they're power-hogs. .
Yes they are...fun though.
I'm liking the mega modulated ones, I will likly go back to those today at some point, must invest in faction crystals though, iv one set of sansa radio , which are nice but lack a bit of punch. Any suggestions ontop of Djego's imperial navy(I tend to keep about 3 in the hold for various ranges) ,
Also, cheers for the loadouts, will be trying them out when I can.
About the only thing not open for debate on the fit is the micro jump drive...way to cool to drop, love that thing, saved my arse a couple of times already.
Again great feedback lads, rather enthused by how helpful Ye are.
If in doubt...do...excessively. |
Cage Man
244
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Posted - 2013.07.16 19:54:00 -
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Just want to add that if you worried about costs\loosing your ship trying all the suggestions, you can try them on the test server, depending on the last snapshot taken you could be without the latest tranquility skills though.
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Singularity
The thick plottens... |
The Djego
Hellequin Inc.
Mean Coalition
126
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Posted - 2013.07.16 21:06:00 -
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For crystals I used multi, xray, standard and microwave(radio is just terrible against anything with any EM resistance at all) for the T1 weapons. With T2 guns and changing the CCCs for 2 discharge and a locus rig, scorch completely replaces microwave, standard can be handy if you want to save cap(like if you mwding towards a spawn) or just shoot down frigs, where the extra tracking is more useful. Multi vs Conflagration depends on how many cap you can spare at the time and how high the EM resistance on the target is. For example against blood/sansha/drones the difference isn't that big but against angel and gurista BS you look at 20%+ more applied damage, what can speed up kills a lot and ease out the stress on your tank.
Improve discharge rigging: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=246166&find=unread
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