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RAIN Arthie
The Ascended Fleet
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Posted - 2013.07.15 16:20:00 -
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Who would win between EVE, Battlestar Galactica, Stargate SG1-SGU, starship troopers, Star trek,or mass effect?
In the eve system of Jita. |
De'Veldrin
Norse'Storm Battle Group
Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2013.07.15 16:30:00 -
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Galactus, Destroyer of Worlds renders your argument invalid.
Also, WTF is this ****?
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RAIN Arthie
The Ascended Fleet
Tribal Band
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Posted - 2013.07.15 16:33:00 -
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De'Veldrin wrote:Galactus, Destroyer of Worlds renders your argument invalid.
Also, WTF is this ****?
Most would call it something to think about, or a conversation starter. Might wanna plug your implant back in. |
Diablo Ex
Lilith's Shadow
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Posted - 2013.07.15 16:42:00 -
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It would be interesting to see.
First one to pop an EvE ship in Jita would get massively WTFCONCORDAGEDDON!!!
Diablo Ex Machina - "I'm not here to fix your problem" |
RAIN Arthie
The Ascended Fleet
Tribal Band
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Posted - 2013.07.15 16:44:00 -
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I'm putting money on Shepard myself, if he can get the reepers to commit. |
Diablo Ex
Lilith's Shadow
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Posted - 2013.07.15 16:48:00 -
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If we take CONCORD and HighSec out of the equation, my money is on either the Goonswarm Mass Titan Hot Drop & Doomsday barage or the unexpected Sansha Incursion...
Diablo Ex Machina - "I'm not here to fix your problem" |
Sebastor Cane
The Outlet
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Posted - 2013.07.15 16:54:00 -
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While the God of ginger exists it will always be EVE |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration
Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
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Posted - 2013.07.15 18:13:00 -
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RAIN Arthie wrote:Who would win between EVE, Battlestar Galactica, Stargate SG1-SGU, starship troopers, Star trek,or mass effect?
In the eve system of Jita.
In order from most powerful to least:
Star Trek - Depends on era. Voyager w/ anti-borg plating was pretty tough
Stargate SG-1 assuming they have the Asgard weapons / shields
Stargate Universe - assuming a fully powered Destiny
EvE Ships - Some rust buckets still use projectile artillery! Talk about old-school.
The Normandy in Mass Effect (particle weapons) but poor space combat track record
Battlestar Galactica - best show but bullets? Come on. 80's Battlestar would be in EvE ship class though
Starship Troopers. Flying cans of Raid bug killer is all they are.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
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Posted - 2013.07.15 18:35:00 -
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When are we going to settle on the fact that Eve is "steampunk in space" and just leave it at that? |
Prince Kobol
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Posted - 2013.07.15 18:37:00 -
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RAIN Arthie wrote:Who would win between EVE, Battlestar Galactica, Stargate SG1-SGU, starship troopers, Star trek,or mass effect?
In the eve system of Jita.
My ass would consume them all  |
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ISD Cura Ursus
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2013.07.15 19:42:00 -
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Thread moved to OOPE........
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Kirjava
Lothian Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.07.15 19:44:00 -
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ISD Cura Ursus wrote:Thread moved to OOPE........
Please, use the delete button! It exists for a reason!...
.... or is it a send to OOPE instead? 
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Kirjava
Lothian Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.07.15 20:20:00 -
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Also Eve would win. Eve would probably have a good crack at WH40K too.
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Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
1995
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Posted - 2013.07.15 20:30:00 -
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Kirjava wrote:ISD Cura Ursus wrote:Thread moved to OOPE........ Please, use the delete button! It exists for a reason!... .... or is it a send to OOPE instead?
To them it is a delete button, and we are the trash bin.
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
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Posted - 2013.07.15 20:36:00 -
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Her, obviously.
CCP Unifex: -á"lurking single players (...)-áare the majority of characters on Tranquility"
...And so now we know why CCP hasn't done anything for soloers since Apochrypha. |
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
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Posted - 2013.07.15 20:59:00 -
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Starship Troopers vs. DUST 514 mercs would be interesting. An even match, I guess. Then again, the troopers in the book have personal tactical nuke missiles. Not sure about the DUSTies. |
Baby ChuChu
Ice Cream Asylum
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Posted - 2013.07.16 01:40:00 -
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Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann. Come at me, bro! |
Kirjava
Lothian Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.07.16 02:12:00 -
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Who the **** DO YOU THINK I AM?!?!
Also your hair makes more sense now.... also because I can.
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
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Posted - 2013.07.16 07:16:00 -
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F*** epic! 
CCP Unifex: -á"lurking single players (...)-áare the majority of characters on Tranquility"
...And so now we know why CCP hasn't done anything for soloers since Apochrypha. |
Alice Saki
Mind Games.
Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2013.07.16 07:19:00 -
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Sebastor Cane wrote:While the God of ginger exists it will always be EVE
Thanks ^_^
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Slade Trillgon
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.07.16 11:18:00 -
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Not enough blood. |
Random McNally
Red Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.16 11:47:00 -
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Gogela wrote:RAIN Arthie wrote:Who would win between EVE, Battlestar Galactica, Stargate SG1-SGU, starship troopers, Star trek,or mass effect?
In the eve system of Jita. In order from most powerful to least: Star Trek - Depends on era. Voyager w/ anti-borg plating was pretty tough Stargate SG-1 assuming they have the Asgard weapons / shields Stargate Universe - assuming a fully powered Destiny EvE Ships - Some rust buckets still use projectile artillery! Talk about old-school. The Normandy in Mass Effect (particle weapons) but poor space combat track record Battlestar Galactica - best show but bullets? Come on. 80's Battlestar would be in EvE ship class though Starship Troopers. Flying cans of Raid bug killer is all they are.
Depends on EVE era also. Anyone remember when Titans destroyed everything on grid and could send it through a Cyno?
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stoicfaux
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Posted - 2013.07.16 13:17:00 -
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RAIN Arthie wrote:Who would win between EVE, Battlestar Galactica, Stargate SG1-SGU, starship troopers, Star trek,or mass effect?
In the eve system of Jita.
Battlestar Galactica, starship troopers, and Star trek would win because they could leave Jita under their own power.
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Ovv Topik
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
455
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Posted - 2013.07.16 13:19:00 -
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What would happen is:
They'd all be going at each other in the biggest epic engagement ever with Tidi at 90+%, and Han Solo swoops in the Millenium Falcon and steals whatever it was they were fighting over with a YeeeeHaaaaa.
And Just as he thought he was home free, He'd be rammed and boarded by Mal and co in Serenity, who proceeds to shoot Chewy in the head without a second thought, takes said item and disappears before anyone else noticed.
Obviously!
"Jita 4 4 spaceport. You will not find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious!" |
Ovv Topik
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
455
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Posted - 2013.07.16 13:28:00 -
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...But then as the battle takes place 'in EvE', what would more likely happen is:
The Troopers would pay the SG Dudes not to show up, then Steal the password to the entire federation and disband it.
While Adama turns out to be a Mass Effect spy and Awoxes the Gallactica by self destructing.
So the capsuleers win by default and go back to picking daisies and general carebearing in nul.
"Jita 4 4 spaceport. You will not find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious!" |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration
Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
2537
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Posted - 2013.07.16 17:29:00 -
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Random McNally wrote:Gogela wrote:RAIN Arthie wrote:Who would win between EVE, Battlestar Galactica, Stargate SG1-SGU, starship troopers, Star trek,or mass effect?
In the eve system of Jita. In order from most powerful to least: Star Trek - Depends on era. Voyager w/ anti-borg plating was pretty tough Stargate SG-1 assuming they have the Asgard weapons / shields Stargate Universe - assuming a fully powered Destiny EvE Ships - Some rust buckets still use projectile artillery! Talk about old-school. The Normandy in Mass Effect (particle weapons) but poor space combat track record Battlestar Galactica - best show but bullets? Come on. 80's Battlestar would be in EvE ship class though Starship Troopers. Flying cans of Raid bug killer is all they are. Depends on EVE era also. Anyone remember when Titans destroyed everything on grid and could send it through a Cyno?
That's a good point! 
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cold lazarus
Reikoku
The Retirement Club
1
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Posted - 2013.07.16 21:27:00 -
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Eve naturaly
All the others would have been scammed out of everything they own within an hour of descovering the eve universe. |
Kirjava
Lothian Enterprises
24599
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Posted - 2013.07.17 00:35:00 -
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Random McNally wrote:
Depends on EVE era also. Anyone remember when Titans destroyed everything on grid and could send it through a Cyno?
Penned up the idea of a crossover of Mass Effect and Eve once.
Threw it in the bin after a while, first rule of writing is that you can't make Frodo a Jedi without giving Mordor the Death Star.
Eve is industrialised to such a hideous degree we Total War drives its peacetime economy. The only match for New Eden would be WH40k, our Pilots are Immortal, can replace ships in hours or pull a fresh one out of storage as we conquer through attrition.
Any tech thrown down in front of our side can be salvaged, analysed and clumsily incorporated if we don't get it (Dustbunnys, T3 hulls ect). Mass Effect.... have a titan fire a DD at a Reaper and see what happens. Now see what a Conga line of them does.
On reflection before I post, the Culture of Ian M.Banks too.
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Freakdevil
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.17 01:59:00 -
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Starbuck would win by playing a musical note causing all EVE ships to explode. Trekkies would be too busy saving Spock from playing the market. Han Solo is too old to do ****, except maybe begging in local.
Cylons would be camping the gate and the Battlestar would simply jump out of system. Who needs gates |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration
Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
2537
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Posted - 2013.07.17 05:20:00 -
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Freakdevil wrote:Starbuck would win by playing a musical note causing all EVE ships to explode. Trekkies would be too busy saving Spock from playing the market. Han Solo is too old to do ****, except maybe begging in local. Cylons would be camping the gate and the Battlestar would simply jump out of system. Who needs gates
Because gatecampers.
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Loco Kamikaze
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
1432
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Posted - 2013.07.17 12:53:00 -
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darth vader in a falcon. the jam and force choke combo is OP
doesn't matter what ship, jam and forcechoke or eject. now he has your ship. did i mention it's darth vader |
Reiisha
Evolution
The Retirement Club
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Posted - 2013.07.17 21:37:00 -
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EVE, hands down.
Why?
None of the other settings are even nearly as destructive as EVE's. The XL weapons alone would punch holes in reapers (possibly the most potent 'normal' entity outside of EVE, not including stuff like the Q), let alone doomsday devices. HAving hundreds, even thousands of dreadnoughts available for each of the empires plus the vast amount of sub capital ships? Destruction on a galactic scale. None of the other settings come close.
Star Trek: The borg wouldn't be able to adapt to the massive amount of kinetic energy thrown their way by a quad 3500 cannon. Besides, most weapons in Star Trek are pathetic, and i say this as a trekkie.
Star Wars: Ships with barely any shields at all and construction that would make a Mexican hacienda look like a fortified bunker? Right. The death star is the one weapon with comparable firepower to anything in EVE, though im undecided whether it would be better than a Judgement.
Battlestar galactica? Smartbombs say hello! :)
Starship Troopers? Same there ;p
Stargate? The asgard would probably be too scared to do anything - Even if their firepower could match some Amarr boats they're simply vastly outnumbered. Plus dreadnoughts.
Mass Effect? The Reapers may pose a threat, but well, EVE fleets are MASSIVE. That plus the sheer destructive power would pretty much wipe the Reapers out if they dared attack.
Let alone that the defensive capabilities are also quite a lot better in EVE's setting since they're not laid out to only work as seperate entities. Spidertanking is an in-lore 'thing' and pretty much makes the difference here. All the other settings combined would probably not be able to break a what, 10-20 carrier/titan spidertank?
The only setting that would really rival EVE would be Stephen Baxter's Xelee Sequence. Try using entire galaxies as projectiles in a war covering the entirety of existence, not just one galaxy or a tiny part of it. The Xelee might even rival the Q in many ways.
If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all... |
Amir Rayman
State Protectorate
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.18 06:54:00 -
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Anyone know which series that goes like this..
This man i think an astronauts goes into a wormhole and he was in a living starship that can produce another starship.
Lastly i remember the wormhole technology was in his head.
anyone know?  |
cold lazarus
Reikoku
The Retirement Club
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Posted - 2013.07.18 07:03:00 -
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farscape |
Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
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Posted - 2013.07.18 07:32:00 -
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Hm... for me it's Xenosaga > EVE > MASS EFFECT > STAR WARS > everything else... 
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Shereza
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
166
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Posted - 2013.07.18 13:25:00 -
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Reiisha wrote:EVE, hands down.
Why?
Now say all that in relation to Jita which is where the OP said this shindig would take place. Hey hey, ho ho, them cap ships has got to go! |
Reiisha
Evolution
The Retirement Club
312
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Posted - 2013.07.18 20:51:00 -
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Shereza wrote:Reiisha wrote:EVE, hands down.
Why? Now say all that in relation to Jita which is where the OP said this shindig would take place. Hey hey, ho ho, them cap ships has got to go!
Tachs and 1400's will do :)
If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all... |
Amir Rayman
State Protectorate
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.19 02:59:00 -
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cold lazarus wrote:farscape
thanks alot |
Kirjava
Lothian Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.07.19 03:24:00 -
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Reiisha wrote:The death star is the one weapon with comparable firepower to anything in EVE, though im undecided whether it would be better than a Judgement..
If such a thing as FTL existed in the Revelation Space universe I would be tempted to through in their Hell class superweapons as something on par if not exceeding the Terrans of Eve. Granted the desighns are from thousands of iterations of humanity throwing back in time its knowledge till they survive (cough *Homura of Madoka*cough). Firing ranges measured in AU, planet killers and the like. Thing is, like the Death Star an enemy would get one shot before it was detected. After that its dead.
Unless their gravitational signatures propogate at light speed, never found out what we use for FTL sensors in Eve online apart from FTL probes reporting back.
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Arkady Vachon
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.20 10:11:00 -
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They'd be spammed and scammed in a heartbeat.
But someone would make a profit.
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Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam
Tribal Band
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Posted - 2013.07.20 13:52:00 -
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RAIN Arthie wrote:Who would win between EVE, Battlestar Galactica, Stargate SG1-SGU, starship troopers, Star trek,or mass effect?
In the eve system of Jita.
The Lexx |
peacebee
Dirt 'n' Glitter
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Posted - 2013.07.20 15:43:00 -
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Kirjava wrote:Also Eve would win. Eve would probably have a good crack at WH40K too.
Not that I'm a rabid 40k fanboy, but no. Just no. 40k is balls out OTT. Il not go into all reasons but neceons, chaos and the emperor means no, not even a dent. I love eve but when the crusade would have stomped the whole of eve fast. |
Grimpak
Midnight Elites
United Federation of Commerce
995
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Posted - 2013.07.20 16:00:00 -
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Kitty Bear wrote:RAIN Arthie wrote:Who would win between EVE, Battlestar Galactica, Stargate SG1-SGU, starship troopers, Star trek,or mass effect?
In the eve system of Jita. The Lexx
Fear The Lexx, the most destructive weapon of the two universes.
also, TTGL is only here because it uses galaxy-sized shurikens.
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Alara IonStorm
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Posted - 2013.07.20 16:08:00 -
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Hey. Ever notice how most space genre's are white people in space. I mean there are of course some non white people but right now with China at 1.2 bil, India at .9 bil, Africa at 1 bil and South America at .4 bil the implications of most far future television shows is a little disturbing.
Was their a Nuclear War and the US and Europe were like the only ones left. Is there some bizarre kind of partial segregation going on. Like if the Enterprise hailed another Starfleet ship would there be like 8 Chinese guys to every 2 anyone else but they just happened to have not hailed any of them. Maybe a bunch of people had racial plastic surgery. Maybe all the Chinese guys decided to stay home and order takeout. I don't know.
Just something I think about whenever I see a space show. A bit easier to justify when it is like a really old show like the original Star Trek where having a few non white cast members was something people got offended over or excusable for AU stuff like BSG and Star Wars. Firefly hand waved by saying that a whole planet went to the Chinese so that is why they all speak the language and have all this Chinese culture goin on... made it weirder though that there were so few Asian people in the show.
Doesn't affect the plot for me but still, I find it noticeable. |
Pr1ncess Alia
Perkone
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.20 23:28:00 -
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Star Trek has the deflector dish that can do anything and a power plant, weapons and shield systems that appear to be far and away better than any of the other tech listed. Including that bigass SGU ship.
I'm going with Star Trek.
Ironically, I think all of the other scifi listed in the OP is better than the two I referenced above. |
Kirjava
Lothian Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.07.21 03:20:00 -
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I think its because white people make up the bulk of the scifi nerd audience that natively understands English. My Japanese tv shows seem to beleive that everyone will speak Japanese and mostly be of East Asian extraction.
Its just tv being tv, Russians have them leading the way as does Doctor Who have a Britain that pretends it cant whip out Torchwood and conquor the word (cough* Great and Bountiful British Human Empire*cough).
Odds are really that the Russians will join the ESA and CERN, maybe the EU down the line, Canada is half in the ESA and Israel is joining CERN later this year. That will end up being the main engine of science for the next century most likely, Higgs Boson, Stemcells, Skylon/Saber engine ect
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Alara IonStorm
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Posted - 2013.07.21 07:33:00 -
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Kirjava wrote:I think its because white people make up the bulk of the scifi nerd audience that natively understands English. My Japanese tv shows seem to beleive that everyone will speak Japanese and mostly be of East Asian extraction.
Its just tv being tv, Russians have them leading the way as does Doctor Who have a Britain that pretends it cant whip out Torchwood and conquor the word (cough* Great and Bountiful British Human Empire*cough).
Oh I get that, I just find it odd they all always go mostly one race. I mean one language sure, they are all speaking space talk that happens to sound English or whatever.
I mean even if they are not "equally represented" in the main cast surely they can make up a solid % of the button pushers and walk abouts that run the ship in the background or live in the cities. Either that or take a moment to explain why they live somewhere else.
Just makes everything seem odd to me.
Kirjava wrote:
Odds are really that the Russians will join the ESA and CERN, maybe the EU down the line, Canada is half in the ESA and Israel is joining CERN later this year. That will end up being the main engine of science for the next century most likely, Higgs Boson, Stemcells, Skylon/Saber engine ect
Huh, I thought the ESA would be funded better than NASA but it only has less then a third the funding.
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Kirjava
Lothian Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.07.21 12:50:00 -
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The ESA doesnt have to do everything NASA wants to, and most of the NASA budget went of things like the space shuttle which costed 6-8 times as much per ton. The ESA is much more frugal, but since it hasn't made manned space flight its modus operandi its got a lot more done for every euro spent. Also, NASA subcontracts a lot out to the ESA.
Give the EU time to find its feet and it should be able to do great things, there seems to be more of a passtlion and willingness to fund pure science here than anywhere in the world, bar maybe Japan.
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RAIN Arthie
The Ascended Fleet
Tribal Band
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Posted - 2013.07.22 16:46:00 -
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I root for eve honestly because I belive jovians would help. |
The Spod
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.23 10:10:00 -
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RAIN Arthie wrote:Who would win between EVE, Battlestar Galactica, Stargate SG1-SGU, starship troopers, Star trek,or mass effect?
In the eve system of Jita.
Ground: Dust514 clone mercs; cloning tech
Space: Star trek; shield phasing and phaser tech
Why is Mass Effect included in this list? |
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Deck Cadelanne
Novus Shire
E L I T E Alliance
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Posted - 2013.07.23 12:10:00 -
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Meh.
The Culture would stomp all of the above, flat. Tech so far beyond anything previously referenced it would be like magic.
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Something Random
The Barrow Boys
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Posted - 2013.07.24 22:55:00 -
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Star Trek of course - it always wins
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Deck Cadelanne
Novus Shire
E L I T E Alliance
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Posted - 2013.07.26 13:46:00 -
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Something Random wrote:Star Trek of course - it always wins
Disregarding The Culture...yes, Star trek would win from the OP's list. Warp drive, phasers, shields, photon torpedoes...remember, the original Enterprise could zorch a small planet all on it's own (was referenced many times in series). Safe to assume the later iterations are an order of magnitude more powerful. |
Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam
Tribal Band
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Posted - 2013.07.26 14:50:00 -
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Vorlon & Shadows didn't just zorch small planets
they turned decent sized populated planets into rubble
however I give you the wormhole weapons
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