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Tobius Moon
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Posted - 2005.12.10 16:11:00 -
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Edited by: Tobius Moon on 10/12/2005 16:11:10
New in Red Moon Rising
Hulk
The Hulk is the largest craft in the second generation of mining vessels created by the ORE Syndicate. Exhumers, like their mining barge cousins, are equipped with electronic subsystems specifically designed to accommodate Strip Mining modules. They are also far more resilient, better able to handle the dangers of deep space. The Hulk is, bar none, the most efficient mining vessel in the world today.
Mining Barge Skill Bonus: Able to equip Strip Miner and Ice Harvester turrets. 3% better yield for Strip Miners per level. 7.5% bonus to all shield resistances per level
Exhumers Skill Bonus: 3% better yield for Strip Miners per level and 3% reduction in Ice Harvester duration
Required Skills:
Exhumers III (Spaceship Command IV , Industry V & Astrogeology V)
Mining Barge V
Fitting:
CPU - 300
Powergrid - 35
Low - 2
Mid - 4
High - 3
Attributes:
Structure - 2250
Damage Resistances - 0%
Capacity - 8,000
Drone Capacity - 50 m3
Mass - 40,000,000 kg
Volume - 250,000 m3
Armor - 900
EM Resist - 70%
Exp Resist - 10%
Kinetic Resist - 25%
Thermal Resist - 35%
Shield - 1350
Recharge Time - 500 sec
EM Resist - 25%
Exp Resist - 70%
Kinetic Resist - 55%
Thermal Resist - 40%
Capacitor - 500
Recharge Time - 150 sec
Targeting
Max Range - 22 km
Max Targets - 6
Scan Resolution - 660 mm
Magnetometric Sensor Strength - 8 points
Sig Radius - 150 m
Propulsion
Ion Strength - 4 points
Max Velocity - 70
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Artica Silverfox
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Posted - 2005.12.10 16:48:00 -
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So with the exhumers skill at 5 and having paid Jove know how many millions more for it over the covetor. I gain a net total of 145.546875 units of ore per cycle using strip miner I for comparison. The difference is 169.8046875 units of ore for a modulated strip miner II with tech II crystals. This is less than a single extra miner II in both cases...
Is anyone besides me less than thrilled? 
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Sc0rpion
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Posted - 2005.12.10 17:05:00 -
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Did you include the new mining drone yields as well?
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Zious
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Posted - 2005.12.10 17:32:00 -
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I like the 8000 Capacity. You fit 2 local expanders on that and you have 12,992.76 Cargo space. That is enough for 4 cycles strip miner 1's or ice harvester 1's i think that is the best part. and the 3% is an added bonus not to mention that it can handle itself much better in 0.1-0.4. Strap some T2 drones with the new drones skills and this will be one bad boy comapired to the covetor.
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Asestorian
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Posted - 2005.12.10 17:51:00 -
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I think that the resistances and extra cargo space make up the rest of the money that isn't there with the mining yield..
But.. I dunno, I didn't really read the post, only the replies of complainingness (yes I know its not a real word)
I Make Sigs
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Kharakan
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Posted - 2005.12.10 17:52:00 -
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I have a question with regards the medium exhumer- it has a bonus that prevents a 'cloud' forming. Wtf is a 'cloud'?
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Shira d'Radonis
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Posted - 2005.12.10 17:53:00 -
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Any idea what the lowest security space one would be able to go into and mine effectively without military support? (I mean protection from npcs not players).
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FPS Doug
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Posted - 2005.12.10 17:54:00 -
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 Originally by: Kharakan
Wtf is a 'cloud'?
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Wee Dave
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Posted - 2005.12.10 17:54:00 -
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Originally by: Kharakan
I have a question with regards the medium exhumer- it has a bonus that prevents a 'cloud' forming. Wtf is a 'cloud'?
Bad ores fight back. This redeuces the danger. By the way I think the bonus is on the small, not the medium barge.
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Glassback
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Posted - 2005.12.10 18:00:00 -
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Originally by: Kharakan
I have a question with regards the medium exhumer- it has a bonus that prevents a 'cloud' forming. Wtf is a 'cloud'?
When you mine Mercoxit? (The one that gibes you Morphite anyway) sometimes it produces a polution cloud which damages your ship.
g.
I've got an idea--an idea so smart that my head would explode if I even began to know what I'm talking about
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Kharakan
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Posted - 2005.12.10 18:00:00 -
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o_O example of said Ebil Ores? (I've heard that mercoxit is one)
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Shira d'Radonis
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Posted - 2005.12.10 18:14:00 -
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Originally by: Glassback
Originally by: Kharakan
I have a question with regards the medium exhumer- it has a bonus that prevents a 'cloud' forming. Wtf is a 'cloud'?
When you mine Mercoxit? (The one that gibes you Morphite anyway) sometimes it produces a polution cloud which damages your ship.
g.
And this is already in the game?? I've never heard of this before..
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Grimpak
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Posted - 2005.12.10 18:49:00 -
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Originally by: Shira d'Radonis
Originally by: Glassback
Originally by: Kharakan
I have a question with regards the medium exhumer- it has a bonus that prevents a 'cloud' forming. Wtf is a 'cloud'?
When you mine Mercoxit? (The one that gibes you Morphite anyway) sometimes it produces a polution cloud which damages your ship.
g.
And this is already in the game?? I've never heard of this before..
ever mined merx?
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Toaster Oven
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Posted - 2005.12.10 19:11:00 -
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Originally by: Shira d'Radonis
Any idea what the lowest security space one would be able to go into and mine effectively without military support? (I mean protection from npcs not players).
From patch notes: "NPC Pirate Mining teams will now attack players mining their ore. No claim jumping!"
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Shira d'Radonis
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Posted - 2005.12.10 19:46:00 -
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Originally by: Toaster Oven
Originally by: Shira d'Radonis
Any idea what the lowest security space one would be able to go into and mine effectively without military support? (I mean protection from npcs not players).
From patch notes: "NPC Pirate Mining teams will now attack players mining their ore. No claim jumping!"
And how exactly is an "NPC Pirate Mining team" any different from normal NPC attackers in belts? Sounds to me like CCP is trying to presenting the same package wrapped in a different paper.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2005.12.10 19:52:00 -
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Originally by: Shira d'Radonis
Originally by: Toaster Oven
Originally by: Shira d'Radonis
Any idea what the lowest security space one would be able to go into and mine effectively without military support? (I mean protection from npcs not players).
From patch notes: "NPC Pirate Mining teams will now attack players mining their ore. No claim jumping!"
And how exactly is an "NPC Pirate Mining team" any different from normal NPC attackers in belts? Sounds to me like CCP is trying to presenting the same package wrapped in a different paper.
the ones with haulers don't attack unless you attack them atm
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Glassback
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Posted - 2005.12.11 00:16:00 -
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Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: Shira d'Radonis
Originally by: Glassback
Originally by: Kharakan
I have a question with regards the medium exhumer- it has a bonus that prevents a 'cloud' forming. Wtf is a 'cloud'?
When you mine Mercoxit? (The one that gibes you Morphite anyway) sometimes it produces a polution cloud which damages your ship.
g.
And this is already in the game?? I've never heard of this before..
ever mined merx?
Nope, but I've never set up a POS, but I know how they effect SOV, whats your point?
I've got an idea--an idea so smart that my head would explode if I even began to know what I'm talking about
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Xyous
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Posted - 2005.12.11 04:26:00 -
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Did a little more research on this and it is +3% to ore yield / level of Barge Skill and then an additional stacked bonus of 3% to ore yield and 3% cycle time reduction in ice mining per skill level in Exhumers so that is a 30% bonus maxium over a covetor not counting the stacking of these skills. and that is a big deal especially when you add that to the extra large cargo capacity.
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Imhotep Khem
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Posted - 2005.12.11 04:27:00 -
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Point is if you ever mined it you would have seen said cloud. AFAIK its been in game a long time. Its the reason for Deep Core Mining lasers.
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KilROCK
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Posted - 2005.12.11 04:28:00 -
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I have no idea why mining yield matter to you players, It's still easy to pop 
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Hllaxiu
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Posted - 2005.12.11 06:14:00 -
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Originally by: Shira d'Radonis
Originally by: Glassback
Originally by: Kharakan
I have a question with regards the medium exhumer- it has a bonus that prevents a 'cloud' forming. Wtf is a 'cloud'?
When you mine Mercoxit? (The one that gibes you Morphite anyway) sometimes it produces a polution cloud which damages your ship.
g.
And this is already in the game?? I've never heard of this before..
When mining mercoxit, theres a chance that a damage pollution cloud will form. Essentially, its a 5km in radius sphere that deals damage (140, unresistable IIRC) to EVERYTHING every couple seconds. They can screw up your tanked npc spawn (npcs wander in it and get themselves killed), make trips for haulers longer, and they pop cany cans that are made too close to the rock.
This was more of a problem when the damage could was 5km in radius and there were only tech 1 deep core mining lasers - 5km range, 5km damage cloud...
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Zekks MarKeys
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Posted - 2005.12.13 00:47:00 -
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p.s the mining cloud insta pops drones.Usig mining drones for mining merc could be a first. Also if your lasers are mining merc u can now go send your drones to mine something else like ark or croak.
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Binty
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Posted - 2005.12.14 14:32:00 -
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Originally by: Xyous
Did a little more research on this and it is +3% to ore yield / level of Barge Skill and then an additional stacked bonus of 3% to ore yield and 3% cycle time reduction in ice mining per skill level in Exhumers so that is a 30% bonus maxium over a covetor not counting the stacking of these skills. and that is a big deal especially when you add that to the extra large cargo capacity.
I'm fairly sure that the bonus per mining barge skill level is already on the T1 barges so at max skill levels you would only get a 15% bonus over the Covetor.
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Niestrenna
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Posted - 2005.12.14 15:12:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing
the ones with haulers don't attack unless you attack them atm
Lol, I had never noticed that ... I guess I'm always trigger happy when I see them and don't give them time to welcome me for an afternoon tea ^^
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Crellion
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Posted - 2005.12.14 16:19:00 -
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Edited by: Crellion on 14/12/2005 16:19:15
Originally by: Niestrenna
Originally by: HippoKing
the ones with haulers don't attack unless you attack them atm
Lol, I had never noticed that ... I guess I'm always trigger happy when I see them and don't give them time to welcome me for an afternoon tea ^^
Nah their escort attacks I think... or I am also too trigger huppy (I lub the 30-40 mill isk in zyd - mega - noxc even iso. but man... 6-10 mill trit ? I (almost) always pop the cans :)
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Rafein
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Posted - 2005.12.14 17:21:00 -
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Ya, the COvetor already has 3% per yield bonus that the Exhumers get for Mining Barge 5.
The Hulk gets a seperate 3% bonus, so at rank 5, you get 15% more ore. Not bad for a rank 8 skill to level 5.
But they will be worthwhile, cause of the VERY limited fittings on the normal barge, they will probably be unable to fit 2 mining upgrade mods.
Course, the Apoc can fit 4 mining upgrade mods for a very nice boost.
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Jim Steele
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Posted - 2005.12.14 18:46:00 -
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Originally by: Rafein
Ya, the COvetor already has 3% per yield bonus that the Exhumers get for Mining Barge 5.
The Hulk gets a seperate 3% bonus, so at rank 5, you get 15% more ore. Not bad for a rank 8 skill to level 5.
But they will be worthwhile, cause of the VERY limited fittings on the normal barge, they will probably be unable to fit 2 mining upgrade mods.
Course, the Apoc can fit 4 mining upgrade mods for a very nice boost.
will be nice to see how the various ships compare with mining upgrade mods fitted. i.e. how a DCMII Apoc does vs' a Barge.
I still think the ships will be fairly flimsy (and expensive) to take out into 0.0 and mine Ark though.
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