
Jonathan Davis
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Posted - 2005.12.12 10:35:00 -
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Edited by: Jonathan Davis on 12/12/2005 10:44:08
Originally by: darth solo
Originally by: Grimwalius d'Antan Pirates safespots because 9 out of 11 times when a single guy engages a pirate or a group of pirates, it is because he has a gank squad waiting on the other gate. Sorry for breaking anti-pirate egos with this post.
dude iv camped pirates in stations solo more times than i can remember(while being smacked)... face it 99% of u all are just plain scared of getting pwned.
most of the so called pirates nowdays are mince. bring back the real pirates of old.
d solo.
HAHAHA, I love it when people talk like this. It kinda reminds me of my parents talking aobut how music 'used to be so good, now its all crap' - Statements like this are rarely true. There has always been hundereds of 'gankers' and 'griefers' compared to the relatively few amount of people who you would consider real pirates (which imo is a such a stupid stereotype to expect pirates to conform to - 'will fight anyone, doesnt care about money, will engage our l33t blob with his inty solo - a lifestyle like that is completly unsustainable unless you have an alt with a plethora of t2 bpos. Anyway, i'll finish this rant a bit further down).
The fact is that people only think it used to be 'so good' and that in the 'old days' all pirates were honourable, polite, and friendly because they only remeber the best parts of their eve experience, just like how people only remeber the music from their generation they particularily liked, and like those people they have forgotten completely about all the n00b pirates that came with them.
Something that most people who have never pirated don't understand is that Pirates (which from now on in this post means pirates who make a living from it, not ones who have an alt supplying them with buckets of isk to buy their l33t ships with who, i dunno, i will call umm..... 'fake pirates') usually need to think about what they engage. Losing a ship can be expensive, and sure some pirates may have looted a t2 bpo or some faction mods, but most won't have and will be quite poor as a result. So yes, Chances are that if you try and jump them, they will run, just like anyone else would (but of course being a pirates and doing this makes you a coward and a n00b, for everyone else it's acceptable behaviour).
You've also got to remember how little a pirate usually actually knows about a situation - i.e. If they are solo pirating they will not know whos in the neigbouring systems, who in local has alliances/nap outside of the established corp/alliance system, the setups on the ships in local - for some reason people expect pirates to know all this stuff and therefore make a decision to engage in a battle that could decide whether they can afford to feed their pvp habit for another week or whether they are forced to carebear it up for that week to have any ISK at all. Personally i would be suprised so many pirates choose to risk their ship when the odds are against them if i didnt know how fun doing this was.
Another subject in this thread is 1v1s. Personally I rarely accept 1v1s anymore, as since I have become a pirate the only 1v1's that were honoured were when I found someone in a similar ship to me, alone in local (very hard to cheat) or within the corp - almost everyone cheats nowerdays, either bringing friends, or a grossly overpowered ship (i know not everyone is like this but it has been a while since i met one). I dunno whether morals have been thrown out the window in favour of getting that kill mail, or I just matured (PvP wise) in a fairly polite and fair environment (empire RP wars) and i was therefore sheltered from the harsh realities of how low people will go to win, but 1v1s don't have much place in PvP for me atm.
Well, it was good finally getting al lthat off my chest. Darth Solo, i just want to say your point of view is flawed and that 99% of pirates are not "just plain scared of getting pwned" but i've run out of characters so i'll leave that for another post).
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