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Priiest
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Posted - 2005.12.11 19:12:00 -
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hi,
i know that i loot someones container i will be flagged as a thief and the owner will be able to attack me (cool idea to be able to blow some ppl im high sec sectors ;) )
i would like to know now for how long the owner will be able to attack the thief?
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Gabby05
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Posted - 2005.12.11 19:18:00 -
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I heard that for the first day and first day only if you kill a loot/ore thief you get to find out their mains and kill them too, again and again and again til they understand that loot/ore thief killing is no more roleplaying than stealing ore using concorde as protection 
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Rodge
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Posted - 2005.12.11 19:24:00 -
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 Originally by: Gabby05
I heard that for the first day and first day only if you kill a loot/ore thief you get to find out their mains and kill them too, again and again and again til they understand that loot/ore thief killing is no more roleplaying than stealing ore using concorde as protection
ROFL.
Misinformation 4TW!!!! 
[ 2005.04.17 00:34:30 ] Nagilam > u better leave Rodge, u will not gank any1 else 2nite......
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Gabby05
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Posted - 2005.12.11 19:47:00 -
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not really, just wishful thinking
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Priiest
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Posted - 2005.12.12 13:46:00 -
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still no answer for my question.
is there really noone who knows the answer?
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Derelus
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Posted - 2005.12.12 15:10:00 -
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Pure speculation, but I'd think the flag timer would be 15 minutes like any aggro timer.
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dralid
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Posted - 2005.12.12 15:24:00 -
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Edited by: dralid on 12/12/2005 15:25:04
On a side note ...
When stealing from a can from someone else, you get flagged.
If you were ganged at that time, does that mean all the gang gets flagged?
And, as you get flagged, can you take out the original can owner aswell, does he gets flagged to you?
And, if you and a friend from another corp are ganged together, doing some combi mining, does that trigger a flag?
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gfldex
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Posted - 2005.12.12 16:04:00 -
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As soon as you take something from a jetcan or loot can you get criminal flagged to the owner of that can and his gang. The whole mining gang can blow you up. It is not known yet if your whole gang is flagged or your gang get the backflagging for all attackers if you are attacked. (We don't know if the ore thief thingy is completly implemented on sisi.)
My guess would be that your gang get's the backflagging form an attacker. So you and your gang members will be able to shoot the guy who has blown up your precious hauler. That would be in line with the general shown evilness of the EVE developers.
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DarkDev
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Posted - 2005.12.12 16:32:00 -
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Its 15 minutes.
Tested it in SISI.
However, if you kill an NPC the loot can will be flagged to your name for 15 minutes,
if no one takes the loot within 15 minutes it becames free for all.
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Corvus Dove
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Posted - 2005.12.12 17:58:00 -
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It's not a full-on aggro timer is it? I mean, say someone gets ganked by NPCs (or some show up in a belt I'm in and own the other guy), it's not going to aggro the sentry guns toward me if I grab the loot and head for a gate, is it?
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Zachios Primos
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Posted - 2005.12.12 18:50:00 -
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no your just flagged to the original owner of the can. he can chose to aggro or not, if he does you can engage him
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Druid R
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Posted - 2005.12.12 20:30:00 -
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but u cant shoot him till he aggros against u, or else u become properly flagged and concorded (in 0.5-1.0)
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Lugz
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Posted - 2005.12.13 16:47:00 -
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Does this work for gang members too? Say, I steal ore in an indy and the miner aggros me, does my gang member then also get to shoot?
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Xantina
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Posted - 2005.12.14 12:20:00 -
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Like in "I steal ore with a weak ship and if the owner sends his drones after me my buddy comes in with his BS" ? It probably works. However I suppose that "I steal ore with a weak ship and the owner sends his drones after me, my buddy comes in with his BS and finds himself hammered by a handful of stealthbombers that were waiting for the obvious "steal&gank" squad ? Just as possible. But maybe you have some more buddies waiting and ... lot's of possibilities to explore 
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Selic
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Posted - 2005.12.14 14:04:00 -
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Try this instead: You (hauler) and a friend (bs) jump in, not ganged. (Not sure if the gang gets flagged or not) Your friend in his bs jettisons his own can and moves all the ore into it. The miners will either shoot at you and get popped by Concord, or shoot at your friend and get popped by him. Then form your gang and fill your hauler.
If the miners don't retaliate, then just form your gang and have your friend continue to move the ore into the can for you.
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Word
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Posted - 2005.12.15 13:16:00 -
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Originally by: Priiest
still no answer for my question.
is there really noone who knows the answer?
You can try it on the test server first to see what actually happens, (test patch version at least, but faily close to final release)
You get the warning message with all the details of the rules.
I can see how it will have to be changed eventually. Imagine, you go to a belt, and there's rat cans left there because the owner popped the good ones, and doesn't want the rat frig cans.
SO, you go to 'clean' up the rat poo, and OOoops, now the owner can leagaly kill you.
The part i like is that when you are NPCing, you can discourage/attack the ass-hats who swoop in and start collecting the cans you just spent time and ammo on getting.
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Amarria Lightwielder
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Posted - 2005.12.15 15:23:00 -
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I have a feeling it will be more exploited instead. Some noobs mine in belts with perhaps one combat ship, an orestealer comes in and steals ore/gets flagged, the mining gang attacks with drones and combat ship, and the 4 battleships waiting for that flag warps in and kills the entire noob party
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