7/10 (gained a point since I last called it because of 50 more replies since then)

It's a troll.
Stop feeding it.

your an idiot who doesnt know what a troll vs newb looks like


@ paul - most new players start with industrial activities. Then you make friends and join a corp. You get attached to the players, they helped you out, they answered questions and gave you tips. But if your going to get into PVP your going to need a corp that isnt small and industrial.

Theres nothing wrong with changing corps youll make new friends overtime. Big corps have industrial and pvp. Or a small pvp corp

And yes I do like to blame everything else but me, its how I keep going in life.

missiles are great for pve, great range so low damage to you which means you have get low repair costs.

Yet I'm having no fun at all in pvp because everyone just cheats and uses tech 2 weapons and ammo on what ever ship they are flying and kills you in 5 seconds because they *******s and don't want a fair fight and then pod you.

How can anyone enjoy this kind of pvp? you can't

the only way to have any fun in pvp is to be in the bigger better ship or have someone in a bigger better ship. and anyone who says they started killing battleships on day 1 you are a liar or an alt of a 100m sp player. Either way your being untrue.

why is that what everyone says

"Get better noob" or "go join EVEuni"

nobody says anything else, they just say your an idiot and should go away. in someways this community is the worse I've been in.

I would try to get better but it takes me half and hour to find 1v1 frigate combat in FW space I die in 5 seconds and then have to spend another half and hour going back to a trade hub, fitting another ship, going out to another system, finding another fight, die in 5 seconds, do it again. The preperation takes up so much of my time that I never get a chance to do learn anything because I die in 10 seconds.

Thats funny, it takes me around 10 minutes to find a 1v1 and I normally win, with rockets and against rocket ships. Really you just do not know how to use them.
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Really?

Because I spent an hour last night going around the Caldari-Gallente fw zones looking for a solo target that I could engage and I couldn't find one that wasn't a destroyer/tech 2 frigate or faction frigate or didn't have a friend with him or called in backup when I attacked or ran away before I could kite him.

Lost three ships to gate camps that I couldn't get out of so thats 20m isk or so gone.

Where do you look for PvP?

You quickly learn where those camps are. Generally gate campers don't move around much.

I generally find 4+ fights an hour when i roam. But i also quite often engage larger groups after splitting up or relying on being able to kill someone and getting out before getting blobbed. Finding fights is a skill in of itself. Some people may dscan three enemies and see a death trap while others may see it as a challenge.

Alteast tell me that this is a good fitting: http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=18879024


Also I've been checking people on this forum up on Eve kill and most of you either don't have kills or have done the complete opposite of your own advice. So I guess a lot of you are alts for some reason. Apparently they don't want to reveal themselves.

Confirming that i'm an alt that never does pvp.

But yeh that fit is alright although small shield extenders are generally considered garbage. I'm to lazy to EFT it to see if it other things fit though.

After having met you in the field, I have to say, your problem is mostly just a matter of learning how to fly your ship and making the right decision on what to engage.

You might have it a bit tougher doing solo stuff, but then you can always just join a PvP corporation and fleet up. In a fleet, it is really not critical whether you have only T1 stuff fitted or not.

My advice is to read some PvP material on the internet, maybe watch a few videos on youtube. And just go out there and lose some ships. Don't focus too much on the fact you lose the ships, but instead try to learn something from the engagements. 5,5M is not much for a frigate and easily earned back.

And yeah, rockets are great. Rocket Kestrels and Breachers are damn bouse! :P

And once more you're just confirming that anything that is not tech 2 is useless and inferior. What the point of even giving us tech 1 launchers if their so bad. the answer is its another time sink of training to do before you can be competitive.

let me guess tech 2 weapons with faction ammo?

well guess what I don't have tech 2 weapons and ammo at all and all I do is die die die. Tech 2 should just be removed from the game, it does nothing by penalise newer players.

cough cough

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=18911931

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=18911935

ok its looks like I can actually pvp

Kills: 3
Losses: 19

K.


Gentlemen, we have the technology to save him. Here's a couple of fits to train for since it looks like you like missiles:

RLML Caracal

Rocket Kestrel

and the ASB Hawk is pretty gnarly

lol

Then your grounds for complaint are pathetic. The obstacle to your success is you.

why should I waste my time on them, they take 4 days and are only worth it on frigates, atleast light missiles can be used on cruisers as well with assault launchers.

cough cough

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=18911931

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=18911935

ok its looks like I can actually pvp

I want to be economical with my skills points, but given how crap frigates seem to be a pvp I might give up on them and go to crusiers. As I've always suspected they are the only ships worth a damn in pvp.

some insist that only frigate pvp is real pvp. I find it very entertaining and more "skillbased" as the fights dont last as long and your decisions have a much faster impact. also, the margin for error is quiet small.

and proper flown frigates are always welcome . at least in the fleets I was in so far. scout, tackle, warpins, EWAR utility..

and once you can fly T2 frigates, a whole new world opens up on you.

be patient.

oh and one advice on saving time: pre-buy and prefit several frigates before you start your pvp day.
like 10-20 ....

decide on what frigate you want to fly, buy 20 of them, fit them all the same (get decent loadouts for your skills from
sites like battleclinic) and then start to lose them one at a time.

assess what you did wrong when you get killed. fly according to your skills and modules. and pick targets that are "doable"

eve takes time. dont expect to get pampered.