
Bloodpetal
Sal's Waste Management and Pod Disposal The Mockers AO
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Posted - 2013.07.23 14:17:00 -
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Marcel Devereux wrote: For the Deimos, can you roll some of that that MWD bonus up into the ship by increasing the recharge and replace it with something else. It is another archaic bonus that looks out of place. Compare the bonuses to the Muninn: double damage bonus (dmg+rof), optimal range bonus, and tracking bonus. Deimos: double damage bonus, fall-off bonus, MWD bonus. Can you replace the MWD bonus with the tracking bonus that is found on the Thorax?
Agreed. You removed it from the Thorax, I think this should be done here as well and give it something more appropriate.
Harvey James wrote:Also a vaga shield tanking with 4 mids still..... i was expecting another mid here also more cpu might help with cpu hungry ASB's also it could do with a little more dps say a 10% damage bonus.
Agreed. The CPU on the Vaga is laughable for a shield fit. And with 4 mids, what are you going to shield tank exactly? Especially for an active tank. I like the idea, but honestly, it seems like you're "plugging" the vagabond into a shield role, when it maybe should stay much more versatile?
Akturous wrote:Taking a second look at fitting on the Muninn, this thing is still very very bad. You need 2 ACR's to fit 720s and a 1600 plate with a 10mn AB and you get 3120 alpha and 355 dps (not including the changes) with 2 gyros (so lows would be DC, RAR, Explosive and Kin hardener, 1600 plate).
This is pretty pathetic alpha with close range ammo on a specialist arty platform considering the Loki manages 4.5k alpha and double the tracking with the same fitting. I think the Muninn needs another turret and the fittings to fit a full rack of 720s and a 1600 with AB with 1 ACR, then it might see some use outside of BL novelty/old times sake gangs.
I haven't liked the Muninn in a long time. It needs a serious review of its whole application. It can't do anything well really, and the only thing it's good at is popping frigates in one shot. That's a really awesome (read: pathetic) use for a HAC.
Overall, you need to review the hull bonuses and remove archaic ones and add more creative ones.
Overall, you need to review the viable fittings for these setups.
Being specialized shouldn't mean "You can only fit this one fitting idea we have in mind, kthxbai!!"
Being specialized should mean that they have a clear and distinct advantage over OTHER ships, including battleships, at this part of their specialty.
I'm not seeing that here at all. Can you clarify exactly how each of these ships is specialized and how they're superior to all other ships in that specialty? Where I am. |