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Legion40k
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Posted - 2013.07.18 20:41:00 -
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so to justify using an ASB Vagabond to take advantage of the new bonus it'll have to be an XL..
and break the ship
i was so hopeful they'd make HAC's absolute beasts too
diemost will now diemore!?
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Legion40k
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Posted - 2013.07.20 17:40:00 -
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Alrighty so here's what id love to see the Deimos get
Gallente Cruiser Bonuses:
5% bonus to Medium Hybrid Turret damage
5% increase to MicroWarpdrive capacitor bonus 5% increase in Medium Hybrid Turret tracking per level
Heavy Assault Cruiser Bonuses:
10% bonus to Medium Hybrid Turret falloff
5% Medium Hybrid Turret damage
Slot layout: 5H(-1) 6H, 4M(+1), 6L; 5 turrets, 2 launchers
Fittings: 1030 PWG(+40), 350 CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 1160(+190) / 2250(-290) (+210) / 2000(-531)
These points are a hot topic by the looks of things.
- The Deimos needs to keep its utility high for a Nos (remember you're changing those and making them better CCP?) Drop the MWD cap bonus, people will deal with it by using a Nos
- Tracking speed bonus really screams out to me here. If you intend the Deimos to kite, well tracking with Rails will be /more/ viable if thats what you want to do. It complements CCP's changes there admirably. Blaster fits still work and are monsters, like they should be
The nerf to HP is such a bad idea because being a T2 ship it's gotta tank better than a Thorax. C'mon. A little buff to its HP from what it is now on TQ would be lovely, nerf the structure if you think itll be OP and leave the shield as is.
What do you reckon ladels and jellyspoons? Im still tearing my hair out with the Vagabond so maybe post later with that |
Legion40k
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Posted - 2013.07.20 19:09:00 -
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Alright so the Vagabond. hrm. The main problem I have with the change to its bonus is the quirk it gave the ship. The 5% bonus per level to Max Velocity did some strange things when you bolt on an MWD, giving it a further speed boost above and beyond what your calculator would say (EVE Maths). This removal puts the altered hull at least 100m/s disadvantage to what it is now.
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so ill suggest this
Minmatar Cruiser Bonuses:
5% bonus to Medium Projectile Turret rate of fire
7.5% bonus to shield boost amount 5% bonus to max velocity
Heavy Assault Cruiser Bonuses:
10% bonus to Medium Projectile Turret falloff
5% bonus to Medium Projectile Turret damage
Slot layout: 6H, 5M (+1), 5L; 5 turrets, 1 launchers(-1)
Fittings: 855 PWG, 395 CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 1650(+97) (-3) / 1400(+63) / 980(-4)
Capacitor (amount) : 1080(-2.5)(+17.5)
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 260(+51) (+21) / .504 / 11590000 / 8.1s
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 25 / 25
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 50km / 330 / 6(+1)
More hot topics of debate!
- Give it the max velocity bonus back. This ship will benefit more from being quicker than boosting its shields. ASB shield Vagabond won't happen because 2x LSE buffers the ship from large volleys which is important with the role of the ship to dart in and out of fleets, catching vulnerable support ships. No buffer = blapped
- Ill even propose to slightly improve the ships top speed a little. This increase goes a long way with the MWD and Max Velocity bonus so we'll see how that goes
- 5 Medium Slots. Yup. Currently you have to make the critical decision of either dual LSE MWD + Disruptor or drop an LSE for a Web. Its a fair option for more utility but what throws this balance out the window? Stabber Fleet and Cynabal, outperforming in Armour and Shield respectively. Everyone is loving the Faction ships right now
- More Capacitor because it struggles at the best of times
To give the Vagabond back its edge, it needs these changes otherwise it is simply inferior
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Legion40k
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Posted - 2013.07.20 19:31:00 -
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Steve Spooner wrote:
How did you pass reading comprehension? The Vagabond got an ADDITIONAL BONUS because the 5% velocity per level is now PART OF THE HULL so regardless of your minmatar cruiser level it is 25% faster (irrelevant since it has to be 5, but still)
If the calculator lies, fair enough, but as I explained theres a quirk with this bonus and prop mods to achieve such a high speed. Take a look, its..odd |
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