YAYYYY

Alright so for HACs (Heavy Assault Cruisers) we had a few goals:

Increase viability for the worst ships (Eagle, Cerberus, Sacrilege especially)

Support rather than disrupt current uses (AHACs)

Make room for new uses when possible

The biggest change here, and the one that affects all 8 ships, is a new role bonus. It is the same one that Assault Ships get, a 50% reduction in Signature Radius Penalty from Microwarp Drives.

We feel this is a really nice fit because it doesn't boost afterburner variations that are already very strong, but it does add to resilience for most other uses.

On top of that, many of the ships have gotten significant changes to slot layout or bonus. Also be sure to check out the MEDIUM WEAPON REBALANCE as it will have a big impact on HAC perfromance.

Small note: All the weird tiny stat tweaks are just to make the numbers more even (originally a lot of arbitrary randomness was added for the sake of "realism" and we are just cleaning some of that up, which we've done for all the recent rebalances.


ISHTAR - We are replacing the medium hybrid damage bonus with a drone bonus and removing one high slot to put its total 1 below the rest of the class, as is standard for drone-focused ships.

Role Bonus: 50% reduction in MicroWarpdrive signature radius penalty

Gallente Cruiser Bonuses:
10% bonus to drone tracking and optimal range(was 5% bonus to Medium Hybrid Turret damage)
10% bonus to drone hitpoints and Damage

Heavy Assault Cruiser Bonuses:
5 km bonus to Drone operation range per level
50 m3 extra Drone Bay per level

Slot layout: 4H(-1), 5M, 5L; 4 turrets(+1), 0 launchers
Fittings: 700 PWG, 285 CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 1400(-6) / 1600(-18) / 2300(+191)
Capacitor (amount) : 1300(+175)
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 185(-6) / .52 / 11700000 / 8.43s
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 125 / 125
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 60km / 294 / 7
Sensor strength: 16 Magnetometric
Signature radius: 145

Hmm ... wait until they decide to nerf all T3s to death... you may be forced to fly Diemost..

DEIMOS:

Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 1350(+190) / 1750(-290) / 2000(-531)

DEIMOS:

move a slot from high to med and reduce armor and hull, but increase shields.
Buffed med railgun about 35% DPS

Ok I see shield tank railgun deimos would be nice choice for current changes. Now I know it is right gallent style warfare which means to use Caldari attack and defend weapons!

Look at the DPS.
- Thorax - 2 Magstabs 5 Neutrons, Void - 522 DPS
- Loki - 2 Gyros 6 425mms, RF EMP - 525 DPS

Now look at the cost.
- Thorax - 10m
- Typical Armor Tanked Loki - 400m

And the SP loss.
- Thorax SP loss - 0sp
- Typical Armor Tanked Loki ~ 7 days of training (Subsystem 5, Minmatar Strat Cruiser 4)


So, a T3 costs 40x as much before bling (which any good T3 pilot has), and costs the pilot 7 days of training every time one explodes.


[Condescending Wonka] Tell me again about how T3s are OP compared to T1 Cruisers? [/Condescending Wonka]

What I want to know is where are you that a Thorax costs 40m?

5x Ions = 6.5m
Scram, Web, MWD, utility mid, = 4m
DCU, 800mm, 2x EANM, Mag Stab, = 5m
3x Trimarks = 8.1m
Thorax Hull = 10m

Total = 33.6m
Stop exagerating the price of a T1 cruiser.

Now the Proteus DPS,
845 DPS with 3 T2 magstabs, 6x Neutrons witih Void

Cost difference ~ 12 times as much

Stop exaggerating the DPS and cost difference to advance your position.


HACs suck. This buff is not enough. Look at the other comments, no one is happy with these changes, they are insufficient.
You are comparing T3s, which are fine and not at all overused, to the single worst ship class in EVE.

Stop being a bad.

Now maybe we should discuss buffing HACs? After all, this is a HAC buff thread.

Try simple math, 3 x 1.25 = 3.75 < 4

I will leave this here for you.