One reason it takes him so long is low DPS.

No guns I can understand due to skills but that poor Domi needs more than one DDA. It has two LAR's and a MJD?? From my understanding a MJD is to get range to reduce DPS so why the two LAR's? It needs at least two and preferably three DDA's and two tracking links.

It takes a long time if you do what you're doing yes....for anyone else who's competent it's doable in a bounty tick.

I skipped to the end and it almost took you TWO HOURS to do this mission.

That's......... I don't even.

Just to clarify on what I said: you can clear the mission in one bounty tick and come back in a noctis and loot/salvage in 15 minutes

Your Domi isn't much faster either.

If you want to blitz properly use Tengu.

These videos aren't meant for people who know every mission forward and backward and can do them blindfolded.

Of course my domi is much faster, I have 4 DDAs on it, use my guns and don't use T1 hobs to "keep up damage" while I move.

Those videos are because it's a challenge, his videos are using a domi (generally accepted level 4 hull) and he's salvaging and looting which means hes clearly doing them for profit.

When you're salvaging and looting with your mission ship you're not doing it for max isk/h.

Why would I ever bother salvaging level 2s and 3s with drones(!) when I have max skilled Noctis pilot, who also has maxed leadership skills, in same fleet?

I'm not going to comment on isk/hour because I never said that was the purpose of the video, you're the one who brought it up. However as a video "guide" it's not telling someone how to run this efficiently.

The purpose of the video was to show someone how to run this mission, however because it's done in such a terrible way I cannot categorise this as a "guide" since it's doing so many things wrong. I don't think there's demand for this kind of content anyway since even if these guides are horrible they should have more views than they currently do just from people searching and clicking on it out of curiosity.

So, guide how to run level 4 mission in Dramiel is worse than his video because Dramiel guide has less plays?

Also, EVE videos in general don't get high play counts in Youtube.

No because nobody is going to youtube "dramiel level 4 mission" because there's no demand for it.

Yet some people complain about "frigates can't do level 4s".

Point? There are many ways to do level 4s. His dual rep Domi is one way to do them. For example I like to slowboat around without prop mod, use unstable laser ships without cap booster against Blood Raiders. Yes, I know that I do level 4s the wrong way because I don't use sentries but I just don't care.

the dramiel isn't "doing" level 4s he did ONE level 4 just prove he could.

And is he doing them repeatedly for profit?

That's why I don't buy plex or invest in this game, everytime I turn around it's nerf this and nerf that, hopefully another space sim will come along.

That's why I don't buy plex or invest in this game, everytime I turn around it's nerf this and nerf that, hopefully another space sim will come along.

So how did this go from a post about a bad video, to an argument about the how's and why's people run missions to complaining about nerfs?


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