I don't have issues with a little bit of advertising, it is not aggressive or disturbing in any way, and making this videos takes a bit of time, so fair enough.

I for myself did little commenting or explaining about the fitting in the L4 videos I made(mostly because I just made them as prove of concept for people calling me a eft warrior). I think there is a solid demand for material like this and even if it is not perfect, the intend behind it might be not showing how it is done in the best way but how it is done with a ship a lot of new players fly for L4 and there are quite a few videos out there where people try to show off time runs for a few missions. I for myself would not mind if you would start your own video series and I think it would be a lot more productive than nitpicking the videos of the OP.

He uses t1 hobgoblins to attack angel battleships at close range for gods sake and the fit, O M G the fit. A new player is going to look at it and won't know any better but seriously this is such a fail.

it's not the fact that you're using light drones it's the methodology behind it

why are you using TECH ONE hobgoblins when you clearly have access to t2 warriors which are MUCH better in this scenario?

My gardes have no trouble tracking battleships orbiting at 2km, you've either got skill issues or you never tried.

And one more thing: what's stopping you from using heavies instead? 2km is an easy distance to recall them should they get aggro.

But, you must of forgot I said why I have them. Which is to take out the smaller ships when they get too close to me. Because my sentry drones can't hit them when they are orbiting me at 2k.

So you're talking about something completely different to what I was.

I said: "He uses t1 hobgoblins to attack angel battleships at close range for gods sake"

Go to 7:13 on your own video, learn to read.

I will say this though: you finally took some advice and first recorded the footage and then commentated over it. You didn't deviate as much as you did in your previous videos and it was overall better than most of them.

There may be hope for you yet.

But for the love of god, learn how to fit your ships properly and start getting your facts straight.

So you're talking about something completely different to what I was.

I said: "He uses t1 hobgoblins to attack angel battleships at close range for gods sake"

Go to 7:13 on your own video, learn to read.

I will say this though: you finally took some advice and first recorded the footage and then commentated over it. You didn't deviate as much as you did in your previous videos and it was overall better than most of them.

There may be hope for you yet.

But for the love of god, learn how to fit your ships properly and start getting your facts straight.

Again, you are bending the truth and trying to poke everything part where you can't.

Please read what I said, then read it again. If you still think I'm not covering both why I have those drones, and why i used them like that. Then slow down and read it a few more times.

I'm not going to reply to you because you've already said you skipped toward the end. Then you are skipping around on the post and bending what people are saying. BTW, I have reported you for harassment. This is not the first time.

Again, you are bending the truth and trying to poke everything part where you can't.

Please read what I said, then read it again. If you still think I'm not covering both why I have those drones, and why i used them like that. Then slow down and read it a few more times.

I'm not going to reply to you because you've already said you skipped toward the end. Then you are skipping around on the post and bending what people are saying. BTW, I have reported you for harassment. This is not the first time.

Harassment? She is trying to help you but you take offence to everything she says. She is one of the most helpful around if you are not so thin skinned anyway.

One thing I think everyone agrees on is you should learn to fit your ships better before you give advice.

Anyway, I have atleast one helpful link for you craig - check this article http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Overview_Guide - it might help you to improve your overview.

the video is actually decent, as it gives players an idea of what to expect. Thus, this video wasn't as bad as some guyz here claim it to be.

I've basically explain in text and a video on why I was Using t1 drones. Anyways, I wouldn't say it is harassment when someone is only helping. I will say it's harassment when someone refuses to watch and listen to the parts that they are crying about. Then Picks parts out of a post to cry. Even more so when they have to attached lies to their parts (which is stupid since everyone can read or watch what I said) .

As far as my ship and fit. My ship can withstand several (9) bs hitting it at the same time. It's also omi tanked. So I can jump in almost any mission (giving there is no EM). Anyways, anyone that used a domi can tell you it's a very slow ship.

Harassment? She is trying to help you but you take offence to everything she says. She is one of the most helpful around if you are not so thin skinned anyway.

One thing I think everyone agrees on is you should learn to fit your ships better before you give advice.

A BS isn't a smaller ship. Also, I never seen a BS orbit 2k away.

Sentries have a hard time hitting anything like a frigate that is in a pretty close range. I've notice the sentries have to turn to hit their target. Like it takes 3 rounds before they hit something sometimes.
So I think it has to deal with the speed of the smaller ships orbiting me or the drones.

The problem with t2 drones, is cruisers tend to target t2 scouts and combat drones. But, the other problem is the sentry drones tend to take them out faster. So all I need is T1 drones to take out frigates. But, I will use it to keep up the damage while I move a short distance.

In practice you do everything wrong in your videos and it makes them very tiresome, long and lacking insight that would actually be helpful compared to just reading eve-survival.

So my ship blow up or I quit in the middle of the mission?

BTW, you have no idea what you are talking about what T2 drones will do to my fit. There is 2 problems with t2 drones.

1. t2 drones takes more space. So I can fit way less of them on my ship.

2. t2 drones cost more.


Something that isn't obvious but wasn't explain before, and I didn't think it needed to be pointed out. I didn't point it out because I didn't use my t1 drones in many ways I can.

1. bait. If at any reason I feel my ship has a risk of getting blown up, I can release my t1 drones and use a MJD or warp. (or MJD then warp since there is no turning in a MJD)
Also, I can use them as bait in missions like the blockade. I can use some t1 drones to bring everyone where I want them, then I can pull out my sentry. It makes most missions stupid easy.

2. T1 drones cost less. T1 hob cost about 5k, so really 1 bad guy gives me that back many times over. This is to include small ships.

3. I can fit more t1 drones in my ship than t2. This means I can use more as bait, or as a throw away drones. Basically drones that are going to die, but doing what I need them to do.

4. To hold some damage on something. Kinda like what I was doing with the BS when I was moving to the gate. Like I had 2 things I could've done there. Sit there and take them out with my sentry drones. Or get closer to the gate then use my sentry drones.

Something that is obvious. T1 drones are great for taking down small ships. That's the biggest reason why I have them, so why should I fix that if it's not broke.


As far as the BS and angel extravaganza. My sentries are great in that missions. In fact, I use to do exactly what you said a year back. And it takes a lot longer.

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I am only saying this so people start thinking about what they are going to say. People have seen my ship, and cry about the 2 guns I have. Saying I shouldn't mix guns, I don't know what I am doing with them, and so on. I don't know why people don't look at the obvious and say that may not be for killing. Anyone who thinks I was using T1 hobs to take out the BS are complete morons. T1 hobs will never take out a BS. In fact, it's questionable at times if it's going to take out a cruisers on L4.
Seriously, where is the common sense.

BTW, you have no idea what you are talking about what T2 drones will do to my fit. There is 2 problems with t2 drones.

1. t2 drones takes more space. So I can fit way less of them on my ship.

No they don't.

T2 drones are exactly the same size as their T1 counterparts. 5m3 for lights, 10m3 for mediums, 25m3 for heavies and sentries. You can fit exactly the same T2 drones into your drone bay as T1s, you can launch exactly the same T2 drones as T1s.

Yes, they're more expensive. T2 light drones are around 400k each, hardly bank-breaking for someone doing L4 missions.

Are you thinking of T2 mining crystals which are indeed larger than the T1 variants?

I still think that can be done in a fairly polite way, instead of bashing people to for no particular reason.

As a matter of fact I consider most of the stuff Tsukino posted about some hulls highly subjective and mostly as a opinion of somebody that just looked stuff up in eft. It is less practical ingame(you want a mwd on the Vargur, you don't want a cap booster on a amarr hull, since it is quite limiting at longer missions or chained missions).

Also nobody can hit stuff at 2km with garde II drones(I stack tipple 90% webs to get the job done reasonable good as sentry drone bunny in Incs, since damage application really matter once you are in control of 24 sentry drones...). Angel BS orbit at 5-7km and you need multiple webs or a 90% web to archive reasonable damage against them with sentry's(I did run angel missions for years in a Kronos).

One reason it takes him so long is low DPS.

No guns I can understand due to skills but that poor Domi needs more than one DDA. It has two LAR's and a MJD?? From my understanding a MJD is to get range to reduce DPS so why the two LAR's? It needs at least two and preferably three DDA's and two tracking links.

It takes a long time if you do what you're doing yes....for anyone else who's competent it's doable in a bounty tick.

I skipped to the end and it almost took you TWO HOURS to do this mission.

That's......... I don't even.

Just to clarify on what I said: you can clear the mission in one bounty tick and come back in a noctis and loot/salvage in 15 minutes

Your Domi isn't much faster either.

If you want to blitz properly use Tengu.

These videos aren't meant for people who know every mission forward and backward and can do them blindfolded.

Of course my domi is much faster, I have 4 DDAs on it, use my guns and don't use T1 hobs to "keep up damage" while I move.

Those videos are because it's a challenge, his videos are using a domi (generally accepted level 4 hull) and he's salvaging and looting which means hes clearly doing them for profit.

When you're salvaging and looting with your mission ship you're not doing it for max isk/h.

Why would I ever bother salvaging level 2s and 3s with drones(!) when I have max skilled Noctis pilot, who also has maxed leadership skills, in same fleet?

I'm not going to comment on isk/hour because I never said that was the purpose of the video, you're the one who brought it up. However as a video "guide" it's not telling someone how to run this efficiently.

The purpose of the video was to show someone how to run this mission, however because it's done in such a terrible way I cannot categorise this as a "guide" since it's doing so many things wrong. I don't think there's demand for this kind of content anyway since even if these guides are horrible they should have more views than they currently do just from people searching and clicking on it out of curiosity.

So, guide how to run level 4 mission in Dramiel is worse than his video because Dramiel guide has less plays?

Also, EVE videos in general don't get high play counts in Youtube.

No because nobody is going to youtube "dramiel level 4 mission" because there's no demand for it.

Yet some people complain about "frigates can't do level 4s".

Point? There are many ways to do level 4s. His dual rep Domi is one way to do them. For example I like to slowboat around without prop mod, use unstable laser ships without cap booster against Blood Raiders. Yes, I know that I do level 4s the wrong way because I don't use sentries but I just don't care.

the dramiel isn't "doing" level 4s he did ONE level 4 just prove he could.

And is he doing them repeatedly for profit?

That's why I don't buy plex or invest in this game, everytime I turn around it's nerf this and nerf that, hopefully another space sim will come along.

That's why I don't buy plex or invest in this game, everytime I turn around it's nerf this and nerf that, hopefully another space sim will come along.

So how did this go from a post about a bad video, to an argument about the how's and why's people run missions to complaining about nerfs?


I like Tacos.

Well it was Taco Tuesdaze at Tijuana Flats today and there were lots of pink tacos in the joint, so use your imagination and some hot sauce

As much as I hate some nerfs they are sometimes needed. I was upset when they nerfed heavy missiles but that's the game. Many games nerf and buff items as needed. That's a silly reason not to "invest in the game"