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Kirjava Lothian Enterprises 24953	Posted - 2013.07.19 13:18:00 - [1] - Quote Bankruptcy might end up ultimately being the best thing that ever hapoened to the place. Sure its a post apocalyptic wasteland, but this is rock bottom. Nowhere to go but up. Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007. /S¦¦GùòGÇ+GÇ+GùòS¦¦\ Unban Saede!
Kirjava Lothian Enterprises 24954	Posted - 2013.07.19 13:40:00 - [2] - Quote Isn't the whote elephant in the room being ignored? The UAW? I mean European and Japanese cars are an order ofagnitude better than their American counterparts, even ones under Ford and GM ojtside the atatea use different models that go over 30mpg as standard. Volkswagen and Toyota desighn a car, and build it everywhere, Chrysler might end up being the best given they are using more advanced FIAT enginens a d are owned by the italian firm. End of the day they were selling an inferior product because the UAW didn't have the strategic understanding that they were making so much because the rest of the world was in ruin and the starving German and Japanese populations didn't need to worry about poor Detroiters while they built better, faster and cheaper. First the auto industry, then the Higgs Boson. Methinks America needs to wake up to the fact that the whole world is capitalist, and free trade works both ways, or it willbe eate for breakfast by leaner morr ambitious nations. Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007. /S¦¦GùòGÇ+GÇ+GùòS¦¦\ Unban Saede!
Kirjava Lothian Enterprises 24960	Posted - 2013.07.19 13:58:00 - [3] - Quote Adunh Slavy wrote: Kirjava wrote: Isn't the whote elephant in the room being ignored? The UAW? You're not allowed to blame unions, because that makes you a greedy capitalist, of course you have to ignore the greed of the union bosses too. No, we are unionised and support a national health service at the same time getting more done with less % of gdp (USA 17% vs 8%). This isn't about the union movement or socialism, this is how the UAW itself has ****** up. Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007. /S¦¦GùòGÇ+GÇ+GùòS¦¦\ Unban Saede!
Kirjava Lothian Enterprises 25001	Posted - 2013.07.19 15:46:00 - [4] - Quote Politicians neex to get paid too, if you pay them pennies in a culture like Americas what kind of people do you think will go for it? Politicians see the rest of the public sector abqndon the notion of civil service and get paid "their fair share" too. We have a similar outrage with MPs over here 65k in London, center of global finance and capitaliam doea not stretch far. Especialy when other civil servents in admin positions are paid double that. Personaly I say a progressive tax system with the money earmarked for infrastructure development, not general consumption. Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007. /S¦¦GùòGÇ+GÇ+GùòS¦¦\ Unban Saede!
Kirjava Lothian Enterprises 25008	Posted - 2013.07.19 17:30:00 - [5] - Quote Omnicorp shares are up following the announcement. And I the UK I feel maybe 110-120k would be about right for an MP, or cut down on headteacher and GP pay to take into account MPs. Personaly I saw the latter, keep in mind the after tax rate they get to keep and what they earn before taking the job. One of the panel from Labour at the last Question Time (Americ needs something like that, they did ola one off in Washington in 2008) pointed out she took a 30k paycut to become an MP from being in the NHS. Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007. /S¦¦GùòGÇ+GÇ+GùòS¦¦\ Unban Saede!
Kirjava Lothian Enterprises 25011	Posted - 2013.07.19 17:51:00 - [6] - Quote jason hill wrote: peacebee wrote: Is the police force going to be privatised? I thought that most of the police forces in the states were privatised ?. They also sell Telescreens to see if their advertiskng is working, to try and tailor targeted advertising. And as a gamesconsole, hell the item of british horror even described the creepiest part "can even see your heartbeat" as a feature. Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007. /S¦¦GùòGÇ+GÇ+GùòS¦¦\ Unban Saede!
Kirjava Lothian Enterprises 25020	Posted - 2013.07.19 18:28:00 - [7] - Quote Adunh Slavy wrote: jason hill wrote: peacebee wrote: Is the police force going to be privatised? I thought that most of the police forces in the states were privatised ?. Nope. Hardly any. There are many 'security firms' that provide guards for private property of one sort or another, but they are not regarded as "police". Actually they receice the same training and qualifications in most cases, and can be deputised and respond to dispatches if noone else is around. Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007. /S¦¦GùòGÇ+GÇ+GùòS¦¦\ Unban Saede!
Kirjava Lothian Enterprises 25714	Posted - 2013.07.26 18:43:00 - [8] - Quote Something I remembered watching a while ago, Peter Schiff from 2008 on the topic of Detroit going bankrupt. I remember I followed this guy very closely after Lehmans collapsed, books are not something I agree with entirely but theres more than a few nuggets of truth and logic in there. Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007. /S¦¦GùòGÇ+GÇ+GùòS¦¦\ Unban Saede!
Kirjava Lothian Enterprises 25714	Posted - 2013.07.27 11:17:00 - [9] - Quote I don't understand why the military wasn't deployed to Detroit years ago erasing through some of this, root out the gangs and near feral populations to try and restore law and order... Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007. /S¦¦GùòGÇ+GÇ+GùòS¦¦\ Unban Saede!
Kirjava Lothian Enterprises 25738	Posted - 2013.07.27 14:20:00 - [10] - Quote No, we just want banks split consumer from investment and something like Canadas bank system. Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007. /S¦¦GùòGÇ+GÇ+GùòS¦¦\ Unban Saede!

Kirjava Lothian Enterprises 25788	Posted - 2013.07.27 22:20:00 - [11] - Quote Tumahub, methinks due to your being in Detroit, a corrupted state is leading you to judge the concept of a state with a wide brush. Like I've said before, the monopolisation of power is a natural course in many industries through one form or another, and that ultimately it is this lack of accountability that breaks it. Academically speaking, it seems to me that lack of economic awareness back in the 50's/60's when voting lead towards this. It's a triad, State, business and electorate, lose one of them and one of the other two will soak up the excess influence and slowly kill the other. In Europe its generally been business instead of the state being more corrupt, leading to our perspective over Detroit's. Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007. /S¦¦GùòGÇ+GÇ+GùòS¦¦\ Unban Saede!
Kirjava Lothian Enterprises 26979	Posted - 2013.07.31 00:23:00 - [12] - Quote But he's in the EU, couldn't he have moved to London or something? Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007. /S¦¦GùòGÇ+GÇ+GùòS¦¦\ Unban Saede!

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