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CrimsonLobo	Posted - 2005.12.14 20:29:00 - [61] OK, so what is all the hype about blaster taranis's, do they really give out so much more dmg than other ceptors?
LUKEC	Posted - 2005.12.14 20:32:00 - [62] speed is fixed with ares quite ok... it sux that you need 2x mapc to fit guns and missiles, but for ship most ppl don't consider better than shuttle, i use it ok. FFS it is 6mil :) Alsmost insurable t2 ship Anyway how much will 100mm, 200mm, 400mm gimp frigs. I had some good theoretical setups for 400mm plated punisher but.. i've heard that it will handle like hauler.
LUKEC	Posted - 2005.12.14 20:37:00 - [63] Originally by: CrimsonLobo OK, so what is all the hype about blaster taranis's, do they really give out so much more dmg than other ceptors? This is quite common misconcept: For instance:(0dmg mods) crusader with 4x gatling pulses II does ~105dps blastertaranis with 3x ionsII does 125 crow with rockets does ~70 railtaranis with 125mm rails ~85 Now problem is: taranis is slowest(apart from raptor) inty. Even with web, smart pilot will keep away from you. I'll just say it: blastertaranis = dead taranis.
CrimsonLobo	Posted - 2005.12.14 20:41:00 - [64] ahh, ok thanks /me writes this down to avoid any future mistakes . 70 dmg only for a un skilled Crow pilot, sheesh was it really that low, i always remember getting about 90.
King Dave	Posted - 2005.12.14 20:54:00 - [65] Originally by: LUKEC Anyway if they have web, they don't scramble & vice versa. this is what i dont get, why every1 rates webs so much... Any close range small gun can hit an interceptor orbiting at close range, theres just certain ways u have to go about it. The only disadvantage to not having a web, is them being able to mwd away, while u may be webbed, so them getting away//
Maya Rkell	Posted - 2005.12.14 21:04:00 - [66] Webs are essential for the interceptor which wants to survive BEING webbed. "Corpse cannot be fitted onto ship. Only hardware modules can be fitted."
BirdBleed	Posted - 2005.12.14 21:05:00 - [67] Originally by: LUKEC Originally by: Julien Derida Edited by: Julien Derida on 13/12/2005 19:09:24 Originally by: LUKEC h4x? Same is true for raptor. Just abuse lock range and speed(with raptor you have web and you web them back and get away again, ares is trickier, but... ). Don't forget that most ppl don't have good navigation skills as they invest too much in mining or something else. Also don't forget ARES(RAPTOR) TEH SUX effect, as they will fly less carefully and with greater desire to kill you. So you're suggesting some kind of fly-by maneuver, dipping into web range and then back out to 25k or so? Interesting idea. We have the winner. If you try to use command keep at range or something(like Sarmaul suggests)... you will end up webbed & dead. Also orbit command will kill you, unless you pack gistii mwd and some overdrives(ie, 2km/s faster than me :)).(I usually catch crusader in web range with taranis, altough i use rails generally). Train, train, train... overdrives on an inty ? ..... mkay i think damage controls are gonna be the intys best friend :) remember they boost shield and armor resistance and they boost the hull by 50-60 % ;) and i can fly gal/cald/amarr inties so i will be testing them all ;D I think the taranis is getting the biggest boost with drones my fav inty is still the crusader ;)
CrimsonLobo	Posted - 2005.12.14 21:13:00 - [68] hmmm, a railed Taranis doesnt sound to bad, as i wouldnt have to train that many skills on top of Gal frig to 5. But then you always have to think about cap with rails.... i could be nossed and not moving but still packing damage with rockets, also the ranis only has 3 Hi turrets, the 4th has to be used for something like a nos, or just not used at all.
LUKEC	Posted - 2005.12.15 09:59:00 - [69] Originally by: BirdBleed overdrives on an inty ? ..... mkay i think damage controls are gonna be the intys best friend :) remember they boost shield and armor resistance and they boost the hull by 50-60 % ;) and i can fly gal/cald/amarr inties so i will be testing them all ;D I think the taranis is getting the biggest boost with drones my fav inty is still the crusader ;) When you manage to fit t2 dmg control on crusader with beams... Afaik there is no good setup with dl. beams II and t2 dmg mod... so dmg control is no go for crusader.
LUKEC	Posted - 2005.12.15 10:01:00 - [70] Originally by: King Dave Originally by: LUKEC Anyway if they have web, they don't scramble & vice versa. this is what i dont get, why every1 rates webs so much... Any close range small gun can hit an interceptor orbiting at close range, theres just certain ways u have to go about it. The only disadvantage to not having a web, is them being able to mwd away, while u may be webbed, so them getting away// I really wonder how will small close range guns hit taranis at 10km :) Now pulse lasers were 'resistant' to this as they had 10km+ range b4 pulse nerf... now pulses are just very bad version of blasters/acs
Laythun	Posted - 2005.12.15 10:10:00 - [71] Originally by: King Dave Originally by: LUKEC Anyway if they have web, they don't scramble & vice versa. this is what i dont get, why every1 rates webs so much... Any close range small gun can hit an interceptor orbiting at close range, theres just certain ways u have to go about it. The only disadvantage to not having a web, is them being able to mwd away, while u may be webbed, so them getting away// the point is..with a web u can pop them before they align to warp cos u hit them so much better. they have trouble gettin out of web range cos of reduced speed. with a scram u have to keep up if they decide to run. webs work best against frigs tbh. scrams against cruisers See Me! http://195.225.8.195:7090/listen.[/url]
CrimsonLobo	Posted - 2005.12.15 16:00:00 - [72] Yeah, that somes up what a web is for .
LUKEC	Posted - 2005.12.15 16:05:00 - [73] Originally by: Laythun Originally by: King Dave Originally by: LUKEC Anyway if they have web, they don't scramble & vice versa. this is what i dont get, why every1 rates webs so much... Any close range small gun can hit an interceptor orbiting at close range, theres just certain ways u have to go about it. The only disadvantage to not having a web, is them being able to mwd away, while u may be webbed, so them getting away// the point is..with a web u can pop them before they align to warp cos u hit them so much better. they have trouble gettin out of web range cos of reduced speed. with a scram u have to keep up if they decide to run. webs work best against frigs tbh. scrams against cruisers I really need scram on my intys... else battleships don't die :). Anyway let's see what RMR brings with plate balancing... /emote starts tinkering with taranis & med. shield extender
Spaced Skunk	Posted - 2005.12.15 16:57:00 - [74] Taranis or Crow. I can fly them 2 and I am much better with my taranis, gunnery skills > Missile ATM. Both of them have short range/more damage and long range/less damage setups. Both do the jobs quite effectively too.
Dan Gleeballs	Posted - 2005.12.15 17:23:00 - [75] Originally by: Rikkta [Why do L2 missions? You cycle them until you get 'going beserk' then pop the commander for a 50 mil ISK implant. Don't worry, this is in the patch notes for a recode next boot.] QFT, although I was lucky enough to have him drop a Dread Gurista Ballistic on monday night, whilst trying to get a Lai Dai level 3 agent, I didnt know about this, ahem, "feature", and am severely kicking myself for the times in the past when I didnt collect cans! Dan

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