When you cap something out the module isn't instantly shut off, it finishes it's cycle before shutting down.

As for aligned vs sentries

you don't have to align at max speed, set yourself aligned at 5m/s and it will be enough time to clear the room before you get out of range of sentries and it cuts warp time down enough since you already have a direction.

Honestly I have three carriers and I've never tried this. The biggest problem I can see is how fast you accelerate with a MWD on. If it finishes a cycle and due to the carriers mass you've only accelerated to 20% of you non-MWD top speed then you really aren't getting much out of a mod that hurts your cap which is the lifeblood of a carrier.



The problem here is you have to get lucky for one neut to work. Lets say you nuke the frigs cap in a single cycle but his disruptor still has a few seconds left on it. Until the disruptor cycles its effects continue and you can't warp. Now a frigs cap will bounce back very quickly after getting wiped out so that 5 seconds it takes for their disruptor to cycle will probably be enough time for their cap to recover enough to cover the cost of the next cycle of the disruptor so it stays on without a break.

You can increase your chances by using a large in conjunction with a smaller faster cycling nuet but tbh why bother when you can sick 15 disposable ECM drones on him and be gone.

You're not an anything pilot yet, stop trying to sound superior. You are very clueless in a lot of aspects of this game still.

Alignment takes into account your direction as well, it doesn't matter if you're at 75% speed you have to be FACING THE RIGHT DIRECTION to warp, pre-aligning even at 5m/s will save you time because your direction is already established on the server.

Facing the right direction with the MWD on makes it take longer if you weren't already as the MWD adds mass and in turn affects your inertia modifier.

Also who on earth told you it takes 50 seconds for a carrier to align, that's some complete bull right there.

As the previous poster already explained it in more detail I won't go into any more but one heavy neut ain't going to do jack **** to anything if all they need to run is a point.

You're a giant noob, start being more humble or people are going to be less inclined to help you than they already are.

Ok after seeing some of the great "thoughts" posted here:


1. Ewar drones are your friends if you are ever tackled by a frigate. At which point you are not warping out but jumping to a safe beacon in a system you already have an alt in to ensure its safe.

2. Light Ewar drones are the only ones that will catch said frigate.

3. Smart bombs are for killing interdiction probes. Since it takes 3 blasts to kill one chances are you will be pointed as well. Light drones(Warriors) are now your friends as you need to kill/force off the tackle while killing the bubble.

4. Ratting in carriers is ******** when you can make similar isk doing it in a ishtar for 1/10th the price.
Sentry Carrier puts out like 1800 dps and an ishtar puts out about 1k. Takes the ishtar 3 hours to pay off the hull. Takes the carrier 3 days to do it.

Not sure if anyone has mentioned the most basic stuff to you.

Sort your drones out! You might have 200 drones in the bay, Itemize them all in easy to read catagories.

Keep extra cyno ships fitted and stored in your ship bay. Kill your own cyno guy if it helps keep your ops covert, and drop him another ship.

Jump Drive Cal V is worth it.

Carrier V is also worth it.

I hate to say it, but if you're going to rat in it, fit a cloak.

and find out about the stations with a big and no docking ring at all.
Also, try on sisi to undock from kick out stations and see when you undocked you are already 3-5 km out of docking ring. That's how many people lose their carriers in low sec :P

Dotlan will be your friend regarding jump routes, make yourself also aware of the systems you should avoid. Check eve kill for the systems the route shows you regarding kills.

Now that's interesting.

So how does one explain the inability to warp when you are at velocity but not facing the correct vector?

Yes but it's only worth it if you have everything set up like I mentioned earlier:

cyno-jammed system in blue space with POS/station to dock at.

OR

cyno alt

Neither of which Ciyrine has taken into account

That depends on whether if you actually have a decent system to rat in.

I wouldn't rat in a carrier, ever. Why? As soon as a red/hot-dropper sees a carrier there that encourages him to come back and check your systems out more often. A ratting carrier KM is major lolz, so is quite highly prized in that respect. There's no need to rat in a carrier. Personally I use an Ishtar as person above mentioned. You're not making X per hour? So what. Make less than X per hour but do it in a somewhat care-free manner. As soon as your carrier gets dropped and killed, you'll be a bit of a laughing stock. Plus by ratting in the carrier you're exposing the people you share the systems with to extra danger. So it's not very public spirited.

Exception is in WH of course. But people who live in WH are nuts anyway, so anything goes.

It looks like you're a little insecure about your abilities and your knowledge. There's no need to get defensive or passive-aggressive.

Don't worry, one day you'll learn and one day you'll get to play with the big boys.

I also knew all of that apart from the MWD on the carrier, there is nothing on google to find that info actually apart from that one thread you started.

Carriers can use neuts yes, but is it worth it? Not really. that inty that just tackled you has a fleet already in warp to blow you up and no amount of neuting is gonig to save you

Same thing with the smartbomb, oh you killed the interdiction probe? Good for you, the dictor still has point on you and fleet is coming.

Carrier is a premier way to get yourself an embarrassing lossmail, as so many people have already told you: doing it in a subcap earns you slightly less isk/hour at a heavily reduced risk. If you had any idea how economy works you will be interested in opportunity costs rather than the raw isk/hour you can theoretically make.

I will not be lumped on the same side of the fence as you, I don't dream up ridiculous tactics like solo widow and rapid light missile rattlesnakes for small gang pvp.

"Continue pvp in your frig and believing your super pro"

Bigger is better right?

All the most pro players in this game all fly titans, am I right guys?

Ciyrine you are just completely clueless, not wasting time with you anymore.

Only one person who lives under a bridge in this thread and it's not me =/

Can you two please get a room

Just one last thing: have you ever considered thinking through anything by yourself, or you just blindly follow anyone who says "I fly it and its good and makes xxx isk/hour"?

Still not sure why you think I only fly frigates, frankly every time you bring up the point it makes you look slightly more stupid.

Also never said I'm not wasting time with you anymore, that doesn't mean I'm not going to comment.

And as to your widow and rattlesnake fits: that's not thinking, at least not how I define it. If I were to analogise your ramblings to something in real life it would be akin to suggesting to keep your shoes on in the shower so you could save time getting to work.

I've seen 12 supers dropped on a couple of battlecruisers when I was in Dudreda area :p but that also might have been because of a poco bash, possibly unrelated.

No it doesnt, not unless youre flying in a different direction than what you want to warp to. The difference between being "aligned" at 5m/s and starting from 0m/s is exactly the time it takes for the ship to go from 0 to 5m/s (which is a very short time, so it really barely has any effect)
The irony of you telling people they dont know anything and should listen to you, while you write off people telling You you're wrong, almost made my head explode.
Learn the game please. To cut it out for you. Server side, every ship is a ball, there is no such thing as a front or back of the ball, its round. Therefor, how your ship "faces" has zero effect on your warp, again, unless the ball is already flying in a different direction, because it then has to change its course, but this really is only logical, for normal people anyway.

You will forever be a noob if you retain the "bigger is better" line of thought.

And I still don't understand why you think I only fly frigates



Yes I know that =/ but you know 5m/s is quite a large percentage of a carriers warp speed (relative to any other kind of ship).

Shouldn't you be setting up a fit with that much run away from frigates power or "utility" then?