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Graygor
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Posted - 2013.07.24 00:38:00 -
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Emigrating was the best thing i ever did. 
Even with safe search on, japanese google images is filled with adult content.
"I think you should buy a new Mayan calendar. Mine has muscle cars on it." --áKenneth O'Hara
"I dont think that can happen, you can see Gray has his invuln field on in his portrait." - Commisar Kate |
Hesod Adee
Turalyon Plus
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Posted - 2013.07.24 01:04:00 -
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Graygor wrote:Emigrating was the best thing i ever did. Even with safe search on, japanese google images is filled with adult content.
Do I want to know what you get if you turn safe search off ? |
Kirjava
Lothian Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.07.24 01:40:00 -
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Guess whos getting his email inbox spammed with people who want to still see ****?
Acheivement unlocked : being that tech guy....
These same people come to me about bittorrent issues and last year asking how I had Mass Effect 3 at the global launch, 3 days ahead of the uk, bwahaha.
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Seraph Essael
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.24 02:55:00 -
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I don't think I have laughed so hard in my life!!! David Cameron will be able to stop **** just as much as he stops the illegal immigrants from coming into the country...
He probaby watched **** as a child and cried in the corner for hours wondering what was going on  |
Graygor
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Posted - 2013.07.24 05:16:00 -
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Hesod Adee wrote:Graygor wrote:Emigrating was the best thing i ever did. Even with safe search on, japanese google images is filled with adult content. Do I want to know what you get if you turn safe search off ?
It will blow your mind...in either a good or bad way.
99% of it is hentai pictures or really freaky things.
Typing Tyrion Lannister into images is amazing.  And causes some scaring.
"I think you should buy a new Mayan calendar. Mine has muscle cars on it." --áKenneth O'Hara
"I dont think that can happen, you can see Gray has his invuln field on in his portrait." - Commisar Kate |
Complex Potential
Blackstar Privateer Consortium
Enigma Project
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Posted - 2013.07.24 12:26:00 -
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Yeah, David Cameron's amazing 3 pronged attack for saving the "yoof" of the nation:
1) Demand that search engines filter and remove any searches relating to kiddie stuff or other illegal p0rn.
Problem 1 - Search engines are already doing it, DUH!
Problem 2 - Cameron actually thinks that pedos go to google to find their sick images which in itself shows his complete lack of understanding of how the internet works. Most of that stuff happens in the "deep web".
Problem 3 - As soon as the infrastructure is in place for filtering "harmful" images and a precedent is set, the government can then shift the definitions and start "filtering" other stuff, probably covertly.
Problem 4 - The additional filters will bloat the net and result in a slower browsing experience all round, whether you have opted out or not.
2) Force ISPs to implement a "default on" p0rn filter that can only be removed by the account holder actively opting out.
Problem 1 - The ISPs are being forced into this at their expense so the filters will be the cheap and dirty kind which basically block everything at the drop of a hat. Since the blocking is being done centrally the user will have no choice but to disable all filters as soon as something they need access to is erroneously blocked.
Problem 2 - Basement dwelling men who still live with their parents are going to have their access to p0rn cut off unless they can muster the courage to have a rather embarrasing talk.
Problem 3 - Any husband (or wife) who currently looks at p0rn in secret will have to choose between 'fessing up (and potentially damaging their marriage) or going without which could well cause other problems.
Problem 4 - It will lull parents into a false sense of security with kids who are probably going to find ways around the filters eventually. We need to be empowering parents, not taking away their responsibilities.
Problem 5 - There appears to be a direct correlation between access to p0rn and reductions in real life sexual violence. Far from protecting women, Cameron may actually be putting more of them in danger. You only have to look at India to see that banning p0rn does nothing for women.
Problem 6 - Some of us don't want to have to call our ISP and say "I'd like to look at p0rn please"
3) Make all extreme or violent p0rn illegal to own.
Problem 1 - There has been no definition of what constitutes extreme p0rn other than "simulated r*pe", which is pretty vague. Does that mean being tied up? Does the woman have to say "I am not being r*ped" every 5 minutes throughout the film? Ludicrous.
Problem 2 - Even one of Cameron's own female MPs has risen the point that some women actually get a jolly out of that sort of thing which means loving couples with S&M type video collections for private use will be criminalised.
Problem 3 - The law is for owning content, but what about streaming?
Of course, all of the above assumes that the ISP blocks themselves wont simply get nullified within a day by VPNs and other means. To me, it feels as though Cameron has a combination of a personal vendetta against and a large dose of ignorance about online p0rnography and is using his position to bully his views onto the entire nation.
/Rant. |
Liafcipe9000
Smeghead Empire
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Posted - 2013.07.24 12:58:00 -
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I need a few minutes to dig into the Foamy (the squirrel) rant videos and find the right one for this specific type of stupidity.
You may gain the knowledge, but you will lose your belief, with all its mystery and comfort. If there was proof, absolute and certain, there is an afterlife, why not quit this life, and be done with it?
Ponder about these things all your life, and you're a philosopher. Compress these ponderings into a couple of pages, and you'll go mad. |
Kirjava
Lothian Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.07.24 13:36:00 -
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I plan on calling Virgin and demanding unrestricted access to tje ser ice I pay them for. If an optional filter exists for anything, be it ****, the adventures of Sonichu (don't, just don't, its a depressing story of the author) or even the dark arts of the kitchen never to be revealed to chefs beneath the 32nd rank.
That or download **** off of bittorrent I suppose...
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Seetesh
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.24 15:22:00 -
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If parents were really that bothered by it they would invest in suitable protection. I have a young child and I've installed my own filter. You can even do it quite easily on a router. It's just some people are too lazy to figure out how to do it. |
Seven Koskanaiken
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP
The Marmite Collective
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Posted - 2013.07.24 15:25:00 -
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Can this government get any worse...... |
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voetius
L V B Industries
STELLAR CONSTELLATION
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Posted - 2013.07.24 16:38:00 -
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just to add to Complex Potential's list, yesterdays i (the cutdown Independent) had an interested article that made most of these points but also that booze and fags cause more actual harm, but it's too much trouble to put ciggies in plain packaging e.g. when you could be doing stuff that will keep the readers of the Daily Hate happy  |
Complex Potential
Blackstar Privateer Consortium
Enigma Project
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Posted - 2013.07.24 16:53:00 -
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Good point Seven. Also the government makes vast quantities of tax from ciggies and booze, but not from p0rn. |
Kirjava
Lothian Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.07.24 17:42:00 -
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There's a simple answer to this **** issue.
Take your child aside and explain sexuality to them as soon as they start to exhibit an interest in it. No need to be explicit, just enough knowledge that leaves them less adventurous on the internet, and keep a trusting rel.... oh **** who am I kidding such a system will never happen, easier to blame it on the internet and not do parenting isn't it.....
Though there was an article in the Guardian today that seemed to say that kids seeing **** were less likely to go have sex and a decrease in teenage pregnancies and corresponding delay in being sexually active.
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Slade Trillgon
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.07.24 20:13:00 -
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They did not keep us from p0rn when its only forms were magazines and VHS. What makes them think it can be stopped now  |
Tumahub
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.07.24 22:28:00 -
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Give the state another excuse to lock people up? Check.
Take away the fap outlet so that more teens have sex and birth welfare dependent kids? Check.
Flaunt the power that the national "security," sector has over the general populace ensuring compliance? Check.
Seems like a win-win-win situation for any self-interested MP. More power, more compliance, and more dependent voters who will indulge their central planning micromanagement fetish. |
Something Random
The Barrow Boys
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Posted - 2013.07.24 22:37:00 -
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I dont see big ****...
IM BLIND
Please feel free to donate....
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"Delinquents, check, weirdos, check, hippies, check, pillheads, check, freaks, check, potheads, check .....gangsn++ all here!" |
Hesod Adee
Turalyon Plus
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Posted - 2013.07.25 03:18:00 -
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Slade Trillgon wrote:They did not keep us from p0rn when its only forms were magazines and VHS. What makes them think it can be stopped now
Especially when the ISPs are being forced to do the filtering at their own expense. Which means they will go with the lowest cost solution.
If I were one of the ISPs, I'd probably go with blocking everything on the grounds that:
- Any traffic I don't inspect could be used to bypass the filter
- I don't have the money to buy the processing power to inspect all traffic
Therefore I must block all traffic to make sure that nobody goes to the forbidden sites.
If a customer has a problem with that, they could always opt out of the filter. |
Slade Trillgon
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.07.25 11:23:00 -
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Hesod Adee wrote:Slade Trillgon wrote:They did not keep us from p0rn when its only forms were magazines and VHS. What makes them think it can be stopped now Especially when the ISPs are being forced to do the filtering at their own expense. Which means they will go with the lowest cost solution. If I were one of the ISPs, I'd probably go with blocking everything on the grounds that: - Any traffic I don't inspect could be used to bypass the filter - I don't have the money to buy the processing power to inspect all traffic Therefore I must block all traffic to make sure that nobody goes to the forbidden sites. If a customer has a problem with that, they could always opt out of the filter.
But the ISP's are owned by big businesses, who have the politicians at their finger tips, who want to control the people, who want to be controlled.
The cycle continues to be concentrated
^GÇ£[t]otal number of companies that control 60 percent of all minutes spent online in the US dwindled 87 percent, from 110 in March 1999 to 14 in March 2001GÇ¥^
I doubt that it is very different in other Industrialized nations.
It would not surprise me in the least if there were not significant ties between the following Corps and the primary ISP's
*Granted the following link is over a decade old, but the main difference between now and then will lay mainly in shuffling and further concentration.*
Viacom
News Corp
Bertelsmann
Vivendi Universal
Sony
AOL Time Warner
Walt Disney
In other words the reason for the blocking 'material' will always be profits and control. The cost of the tech to do this will just be the scapegoat. |
Tumahub
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
3482
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Posted - 2013.07.25 16:09:00 -
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I believe the snowden affair has taught us, among other things, that ISPs are DEEPLY in bed with national governments (specifically the US and UK). So it would not surprise me in the least to find out that ISPs were "absorbing the cost," of censorship, which in-reality would mean nothing more than an increased kickback from the state for their cooperation. Likely with some bonus money for ferreting out those who got around the filter. |
Hesod Adee
Turalyon Plus
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Posted - 2013.07.26 21:54:00 -
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News that should surprise no-one: UK **** Filter Will Censor Other Content Too, ISPs Reveal
Quote: itGÇÖs hardly encouraging to discover that even when TalkTalk subscribers turn filtering completely off, their traffic is still routed through HuaweiGÇÖs system.
I wonder which sites critical of China or the UK will be 'accidentally' blocked, even on people who turn off all the filters.
Or how long it will be before someone takes out all internet in the UK by attacking Huawei's system. |
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Emiko P'eng
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Posted - 2013.07.27 16:32:00 -
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Don't Worry the filter will work fine!
We will be getting the Chinese 'Government Spying' company to install and run it for us!
(Note: The above comments are called 'English Satire' for all the Chinese Cyber Spies looking in )
BBC Technology - Chinese firm Huawei controls net filter praised by PM
BBC Technology - UK to probe Huawei staff's role at cybersecurity centre
Only in the UK 
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Zhula Guixgrixks
Increasing Success by Lowering Expectations
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Posted - 2013.07.28 18:11:00 -
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As expected , Cameron's Great Firewall extend to more than just p0+ôn. Long live comrade Cameron !
0ccupational Hazzard --> check out the true love story-á |
Robby Altair
7
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Posted - 2013.07.28 23:44:00 -
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You see good things happen when East meets West. NO,.... wait a minute. It's...  .
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Hesod Adee
Turalyon Plus
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Posted - 2013.07.29 02:35:00 -
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Zhula Guixgrixks wrote:As expected , Cameron's Great Firewall extend to more than just p0+ôn. Long live comrade Cameron !
Is comrade the right term here ?
We are talking about China here, not Russia. |
Zhula Guixgrixks
Increasing Success by Lowering Expectations
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Posted - 2013.07.29 20:11:00 -
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Hesod Adee wrote:We are talking about China here, not Russia. On paper, China is a communistic country. Russia isn't
0ccupational Hazzard --> check out the true love story-á |
Ariah Thorland
The Advent of Faith
Ex Cinere Scriptor
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Posted - 2013.08.05 11:12:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:Zimmy Zeta wrote:http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16497122
In short, consumption of online p0rnography is a valid predictor for future compulsive/problematic internet use in adolescents.
I am all for free speech and free internet, but the average age where children come into contact with online p0rn is 11 years nowadays IIRC- but maybe the solution isn't a censored internet but better parenting here. Are you saying the average age children view sex is right around the age where they learn what it is. Shocking. New plan, we don't tell them about it until they are 25. 
Prohibiting something doesn't even work with alcohol. France has any alcohol prohibited till you're 18 I think. Our class once had exchange students (when we were like 15/16) - a single crate of beer was enough to make 6 of em nearly pass out (that's like 3 bottles).
Same goes for - media. People allways find ways to access what they want. If I wait long enough at the train station I'll probably see a pre-schooler with a smartphone. In theory that's all it takes to watch "rated A" content. Not a smart move by the parents - but uh smart parenting ....
In all honesty though - the people that get elected dwon't know s*** about how a computer works for another 30 years. What do you expect? |
Zhula Guixgrixks
Increasing Success by Lowering Expectations
56
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Posted - 2013.08.05 22:46:00 -
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With all that T3MP[]-»A thing running and storing your traffic in background.. maybe this is just an attempt to reduce costs of storing the data. I guess P0-»n makes a lot of total traffic.
0ccupational Hazzard --> check out the true love story-á |
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