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Commander Tycho Coreli Corporation Ineluctable. 1	Posted - 2013.07.22 06:44:00 - [1] - Quote Looks like David Cameron has decided that kids are being ruined by internet **** (people having sex). Good or bad? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23401076 edit didnt know that word was filtered...
Kirjava Lothian Enterprises 25128	Posted - 2013.07.22 06:50:00 - [2] - Quote They blocked the Piratebay for me once. For a full 6 seconds (I timed it). Maintain a few VPN's and tunnel them in a web if needbe, I will get my material Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007. /S¦¦GùòGÇ+GÇ+GùòS¦¦\ Unban Saede!
Anna Karhunen Inoue INEXP 105	Posted - 2013.07.22 06:55:00 - [3] - Quote **** does not ruin kids. Parents who don't bother to raise their kids right is what ruins them and no amount of internet filtering or other censorship can correct that.
Jonah Gravenstein Balius and Xanthus Traditional Gunsmiths 11177	Posted - 2013.07.22 06:57:00 - [4] - Quote The plus point is that it's opt out, on the negative side it's another sign that government wants to regulate the internet. ISP filters won't stop any halfway intelligent 10 year old, just as they don't stop UK residents accessing TBP and all of the other sites that are currently blocked. Bullshit is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are ~ Harry G. Frankfurt
Kirjava Lothian Enterprises 25138	Posted - 2013.07.22 07:00:00 - [5] - Quote I cracked net nanny when I was 12. Can't recall how though, I think I flagged the code as hostile in the antivius suite and quarantined it in a boot up scan. Growing up it was an arms race between me figuring out how to be private, and school/parents trying to remove that. They thought they won. I got Truecrypt and a hidden partition. The kids will figure it out, once one does Google will do the rest. Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007. /S¦¦GùòGÇ+GÇ+GùòS¦¦\ Unban Saede!
Commander Tycho Coreli Corporation Ineluctable. 1	Posted - 2013.07.22 08:05:00 - [6] - Quote Seems like the government trying to take on the responsibilities of the parent, and making the innocent suffer. Again.
Kirjava Lothian Enterprises 25261	Posted - 2013.07.22 08:09:00 - [7] - Quote Commander Tycho wrote: Seems like the government trying to take on the responsibilities of the parent, and making the innocent suffer. Again. I wonder who could have been behind all of this... Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007. /S¦¦GùòGÇ+GÇ+GùòS¦¦\ Unban Saede!
Hesod Adee Turalyon Plus 42	Posted - 2013.07.22 08:16:00 - [8] - Quote How the web prevents ** 2006 Online Pornography Helping Lower Incidents, Study Says 2009 Legalizing Pornography: Lower Sex Crime Rates? Study Carried out in Czech Republic Shows Results Similar to Those in Japan and Denmark 2010 In short, easy access to reduces sex crimes. Thus banning it again will increase them. And there will be people who will be unable to access ** because they don't want anyone to know they look at it, thus they won't ask their ISP to turn the filter off.
Zimmy Zeta Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 25395	Posted - 2013.07.22 09:00:00 - [9] - Quote http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16497122 In short, consumption of online p0rnography is a valid predictor for future compulsive/problematic internet use in adolescents. I am all for free speech and free internet, but the average age where children come into contact with online p0rn is 11 years nowadays IIRC- but maybe the solution isn't a censored internet but better parenting here. Just think of how bad an average post by me is, and then realize half of them are even worse
Hesod Adee Turalyon Plus 42	Posted - 2013.07.22 09:13:00 - [10] - Quote Zimmy Zeta wrote: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16497122 In short, consumption of online p0rnography is a valid predictor for future compulsive/problematic internet use in adolescents. I am all for free speech and free internet, but the average age where children come into contact with online p0rn is 11 years nowadays IIRC- but maybe the solution isn't a censored internet but better parenting here. Censorship for everyone is not a solution to bad parents. I also note that the study only does not call ** consumption the cause of problematic internet use. Only a way to predict if problematic use will occur. Meaning that banning will just hide the problem. Most parents will react to finding out their children view **, probably in a way that reduces the child's access to the internet. But how many will react in a helpful way to a skinner box F2P MMO ?
Alara IonStorm 5217	Posted - 2013.07.22 09:28:00 - [11] - Quote Zimmy Zeta wrote: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16497122 In short, consumption of online p0rnography is a valid predictor for future compulsive/problematic internet use in adolescents. I am all for free speech and free internet, but the average age where children come into contact with online p0rn is 11 years nowadays IIRC- but maybe the solution isn't a censored internet but better parenting here. Are you saying the average age children view sex is right around the age where they learn what it is. Shocking. New plan, we don't tell them about it until they are 25.
Max Godsnottlingson Bitter Veterans 208	Posted - 2013.07.22 09:49:00 - [12] - Quote It's nothing but a cheap PR ploy by a government that doesn't actually give a flying f**k, but is trying to look as if it cares for the ordinary joe, and not the mega rich who have been enjoying all of the tax cuts. It won't help, it won't do anything other then annoy people who are having their right to free speech curtailed further, by a bunch of right wing public school Yah Hoo Henries. And that's just describing the Labour party! (The supposed left wing socialist gang for non-UK people)
Hedian Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 7	Posted - 2013.07.22 10:48:00 - [13] - Quote This is outrageous! ****(people having sex) taught me so many things growing up. Just to name a few -The hidden perks of being a pizza delivery boy - what to do if your girlfriends step mom catches you - how to make love not war
Nerath Naaris Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy 512	Posted - 2013.07.22 11:33:00 - [14] - Quote Alara IonStorm wrote: Zimmy Zeta wrote: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16497122 In short, consumption of online p0rnography is a valid predictor for future compulsive/problematic internet use in adolescents. I am all for free speech and free internet, but the average age where children come into contact with online p0rn is 11 years nowadays IIRC- but maybe the solution isn't a censored internet but better parenting here. Are you saying the average age children view sex is right around the age where they learn what it is. Shocking. New plan, we don't tell them about it until they are 25. Isn-¦t that the way how they do it in the Bible Belt? Forum-unbanned since 2011.10.20. Need to advertise your Corp or service? Look no further, this space is now for rent!
Jonah Gravenstein Balius and Xanthus Traditional Gunsmiths 11181	Posted - 2013.07.22 15:54:00 - [15] - Quote Max Godsnottlingson wrote: It's nothing but a cheap PR ploy by a government that doesn't actually give a flying f**k, but is trying to look as if it cares for the ordinary joe, and not the mega rich who have been enjoying all of the tax cuts. It won't help, it won't do anything other then annoy people who are having their right to free speech curtailed further, by a bunch of right wing public school Yah Hoo Henries. And that's just describing the Labour party! (The supposed left wing socialist gang for non-UK people) Labour are slightly to the left of the BNP, Conservatives are slightly to the right of the BNP, and the BNP are about as far right as you can go without donning pillowcases and setting fire to crucifixes. Bullshit is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are ~ Harry G. Frankfurt
Adunh Slavy 1204	Posted - 2013.07.22 16:01:00 - [16] - Quote So we can show all kinds of non-consensual violence on TV and the Internet, but can't show the naughty bits of consenting adults. Let's see, government power is in its ability to force people to do things by means of non-consensual violence and coercion. So government **** is ok, you taking it up the wazoo once again. And we wonder why the planet is so fckd up. Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.-á-á- William Pitt
Kirjava Lothian Enterprises 25429	Posted - 2013.07.22 16:02:00 - [17] - Quote No, its just an excuse to install filtering hardware into the UK infrastructure for pupular demand. Then something else down the line will demand tat the IWF have control over filters. Then that the IWF are deputied to Westminster. Then we have hardware filtering at the backbone level of the system, with Westminster deciding what goes in or not. Say there's a terrorist attack, shut down everything. Or some sort of protest..... Long story short, Zimmerman had it right with PGP. Building my own email server and BBS board at the moment with 4096 bit encryption, and looking at printing business cards with QR codes with the public key. Might be able to turn it into a business model, a pity I don't have the resources to build a subscription model anonymised search engine, I think there's a market for this in Europe. Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007. /S¦¦GùòGÇ+GÇ+GùòS¦¦\ Unban Saede!
Khergit Deserters Crom's Angels 1365	Posted - 2013.07.22 16:14:00 - [18] - Quote Zimmy Zeta wrote: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16497122 In short, consumption of online p0rnography is a valid predictor for future compulsive/problematic internet use in adolescents. I am all for free speech and free internet, but the average age where children come into contact with online p0rn is 11 years nowadays IIRC- but maybe the solution isn't a censored internet but better parenting here. True. But in the U.S. at least, they start encountering suggestive **/soft-core at age 0, via TV commercials. Some network hyping it's new drama series-- complete with scenes of orgasmic groping, grappling and tonguing. Or violence *, with a scene of the detective protagonist bashing a suspect with a chair. You can be watching something family-appropriate, like Sunday afternoon football, baseball or NASCAR, and the next thing you know your preschool kid just saw some pretty disturbing or mature content. I wouldn't mind some censorship or standards on that. It's complete hypocrisy-- there was that uproar over Janet Jackson's 'wardrobe malfunction' during the Super Bowl. Innocent kids were watching. But throughout the year the networks played titillating commercials showing much worse. *See what I did there?
Jonah Gravenstein Balius and Xanthus Traditional Gunsmiths 11210	Posted - 2013.07.22 17:31:00 - [19] - Quote Seems relevant, although slightly offtopic. Bullshit is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are ~ Harry G. Frankfurt
Mr Pragmatic 564	Posted - 2013.07.22 17:50:00 - [20] - Quote I once was a chronic teen age masterbater. I came out fine....lol. I didn't blow anything in my life. I spanked school pretty hard. Vote for me in the next CSM Elections. I will fight for the interest of all Hi-sec dwellers. No longer will you be cast aside and disparaged.
mcdoodle S T R A T C O M Critical-Mass 5	Posted - 2013.07.22 18:39:00 - [21] - Quote I'd put some serious Isk on there being a spike in teen pregnancy in May 2014 if this plan goes ahead according to Cameron's schedule
Kitty Bear Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Tribal Band 753	Posted - 2013.07.22 18:44:00 - [22] - Quote Commander Tycho wrote: Looks like David Cameron has decided that kids are being ruined by internet **** (people having sex). Good or bad? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23401076 edit didnt know that word was filtered... I thought it was kiddie **** they wre trying to block ?? guess I misread it. and there I was thinking 'at last, an MP that can do something right'
Alara IonStorm 5217	Posted - 2013.07.22 18:48:00 - [23] - Quote Kitty Bear wrote: Commander Tycho wrote: Looks like David Cameron has decided that kids are being ruined by internet **** (people having sex). Good or bad? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23401076 edit didnt know that word was filtered... I thought it was kiddie ** they wre trying to block ?? guess I misread it. and there I was thinking 'at last, an MP that can do something right' Also ** fantasy and rough stuff that can be considered abuse.
Tumahub Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 3402	Posted - 2013.07.22 18:57:00 - [24] - Quote Quote: GÇ£Normally, anything done in the name of 'the kids' strikes me as either slightly sentimental or faintly sinisterGÇöthat redolence of moral blackmail that adheres to certain charitable appeals and certain kinds of politician. (Not for nothing is baby-kissing the synonym for public insincerity.)GÇ¥ -Christopher Hitchens
Something Random The Barrow Boys 396	Posted - 2013.07.22 20:41:00 - [25] - Quote The proper way to do this was to force all adult content - and its fairly standardised no matter where you are that its adult - onto different domains (xxx, adu, 18r even) but it got pished. Now were gonna get - woops and/or well we think its rude so its gone. Thus the reason for the lack of a true argument for domain typing raises its first whiskers from the mire that was the very reason it wasnt pushed for mightily. Welcome to the Wall ? i hope not. "caught on fire a little bit, just a little." "Delinquents, check, weirdos, check, hippies, check, pillheads, check, freaks, check, potheads, check .....gangsn++ all here!"
Jim Roebuck StarFleet Enterprises Red Alliance 64	Posted - 2013.07.22 22:33:00 - [26] - Quote ** THE INTERNET IS FOR ** "Black shadows hanging over his shoulders Black mark up against your name Your green eyes couldn't get any colder There's red poison flowing through your veins..." AC/DC, Evil Walks
Zhula Guixgrixks Increasing Success by Lowering Expectations 52	Posted - 2013.07.22 23:06:00 - [27] - Quote Tempora already stores all of your communication. Now Cameron will test his censorship machine on you. In beta stage "only" **** is of interest. His father feelings put tear in to my eyes. He is such a loving father ! 0ccupational Hazzard --> check out the true love story-á
Hesod Adee Turalyon Plus 47	Posted - 2013.07.22 23:44:00 - [28] - Quote From 1967, but still relevant.
Zhula Guixgrixks Increasing Success by Lowering Expectations 52	Posted - 2013.07.23 18:35:00 - [29] - Quote Obviously Cameron is retreating from his former standpoint. That guy should now it better. No civilization will sustain without booze, boobs and ball games. 0ccupational Hazzard --> check out the true love story-á
Sir Spottington Merchants Trade Consortium The Last Chancers. 5	Posted - 2013.07.23 22:51:00 - [30] - Quote Commander Tycho wrote: Looks like David Cameron has decided that kids are being ruined by internet **** (people having sex). Good or bad? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23401076 edit didnt know that word was filtered... ok... my original post didnt actually post properly for some reason..... please feel free to ignore me

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