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unimatrix0030
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Posted - 2013.07.31 05:33:00 -
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Kalel Nimrott wrote:
Do I really need to state that T3 cant reffit their subsystems in wspace?, making his statement on versatility pointless?
And don't forget rigs, no one will fit a T2 rig on a ship to destroy it a day later for an other config... .
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unimatrix0030
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Posted - 2013.08.01 06:01:00 -
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Ellendras Silver wrote:
why would anyone fly a T2 hull that only can do 1 task as a T3 can perform all those tasks better then any T2 hull can (that is SPECIALY made for that task) ? i asked this question in almost every reply in multiple topics about T3 rebalance nobody answers them i know why and so do you all.
and that is not counting how insanly OP the T3s are (or can be) its realy selfish people that wanna keep their OP T3 ship
That is a lie and you know it!
You only compare T2-ships T2 fit with T3 - faction bling bling ships.
There is no T3 bether then a T2 or a BC.
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unimatrix0030
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Posted - 2013.08.03 18:56:00 -
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Ellendras Silver wrote:Rek Seven wrote:
The the picture you pain involves people having to go to their pos and change the sup systems on their T3... Why would they bother doing that when they could just have multiple T2 ships that are specialised for the role people need them to do?
T3s would be redundant if you had your way.
not entirely but i get your point there is also situations where you only have a few ships and or options to refit on carrier but i see your point ans lean more to my balance ideas posted after him, but you didnt replied to that.
First of all you can't change subsystems or rigs at a pos/carrier/orca/rorq at the moment so that point is not valid.
Second people will just have more then 1 ship, no one will warp away in the middle of a battle and change stuff you don't have the time. That isn't even an option in a fight especialy if you nerf the EHP fights won't go on for long anyway.
Even now people just have several T3's .
And in a fight most people just have 1 role unless you are using some form of RR,cap transfer,... .
Eve fights are never so dynamic that you change in the middle of the fight.
The only place you have that is in capital warfare, so if you want that you should make T3's have capital EHP's... .
Beside, who even have the time to refit just before a fight? In w-space you need to react fast.
Making them 80-90% worse then T2's would make em worse then BC's and navy ships and even T1's would destroy em with ease.
Wich in turn would make T3's unused , who would wan't a worse ship where you loose skillpoints and is a lot more expensive.
Seems to me that you just want to nerf womehole income to just blue books.... .
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unimatrix0030
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Posted - 2013.08.04 09:50:00 -
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Afuran wrote:
First off you muddled up what I said. I said t3s should be about 80-90% effectiveness of a t2.
And you are being rude. People will always fly the best ship? I call BS. People fly the ships they enjoy flying, they also fly ships they feel are effective in a fight, they also fly ships that are cheap and fast.
But if you are still dead set on your 'people fly the best ships', then let that be a t2 specialized ship. One that you can't just swap around subsystems to be effective at all different roles.
Sounds to me like the people that oppose the t3 changes the most are those that profit from their manufacture.
w-space combat gets boring fast when its t3s as far as the eye can see.
You sounds like you own a few moon goo moons and a T2 ship BPO.
All you want to do is nerf T3's into the ground .
If T3's would be 80-90% effective to t2's they would have been called T1's... .
Reading your proposals it looks like you never fought in w-space in a fleet... . |
unimatrix0030
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Posted - 2013.08.04 19:07:00 -
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Quote:let me ask you this what did you think about the commandship vs T3 changes see below? Quote:Quick mention of the changes to Strategic Cruiser Warfare Processor subsystems:
The Warfare Processors will now provide a 2% increase in the strength of warfare links per level of their racial defensive subsystem skill. They will also now provide bonuses to three different types of gang links:
Loki: Siege, Armored, Skirmish
Proteus: Armored, Skirmish, Information
Tengu: Siege, Skirmish, Information
Legion: Armored, Skirmish, Information and the commandships get 15% fixed bonus on 2 kind of links
Well i think warfare links will be much less used on T3's then before.
You need more skillspoints for worse boosts and you only get 1 extra link to it... .
If this will be how the t3 nerf will look like, then w-space will be empty rather fast... .
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unimatrix0030
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Posted - 2013.08.06 18:31:00 -
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Well if these null sec dudes get their way invasions of any hole will be over.
Only blobs will be able to do invasions.
The home advantage of battleships will be so overwhelming in ever class of wormhole that pvp will die out in w-space.
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