I love this:

Destroyers receive increased HP and capacitor, and significantly decreased sig radius
Destroyers no longer have a rate of fire penalty

The easier fittings for rails and blasters will make the Caldari and Gallente destroyers worth a revisit.

I love the new fitting stats on the Blasters.

The oneiros change is bad and makes it a worse ship than before.
I think you wanted to buff it since nobody flies it.

The oneiros had only one good role, supporting other logis with projected ECCM and providing some light repping on its own.

The problem is you made it more similar to guardian. Which dont sound bad since guardians rock.
However, guards in that role are still way superior than oneiros.

Guards brings-
Great repping power
Great tank
Unlimited cap (unless ECM'ed)

Oneiros brings-
Utility (mid slots)
Crappy tank in comparison (40k EHP compared to 90k EHP of a guardian)
Decent repping power
Has cap problems, needs a guardian to support.


You removed the utility of the oneiros and all those things that the guardian is better still remain.

So what really is the point of a flying a ship that has absolutely nothing going for it compared to the guardian?

With that said, i can't possibly imagine people would fly the oneiros more. I think it would be flown less. I mean whats really the point of flying a similar cost ship thats inferior in everyway. What fleet doctorine would call for oneiros now?

It would be really hard to overbuff the oneiros since it has cap issues unlike the guardian.
So perhpas just give it an extra lowslot with no nerf to the mids. Or just give it more natural armor.

still not enough tbh.

I don't mean to stir the hornet's nest, but seriously, is this a joke?

Blasters get a tracking buff, but a web is pretty much necessary to make them effective in the first place, thus the tracking bonus is moot. The range stats on blasters remain untouched, so CCP completely ignores THE LARGEST CONTRIBUTING FACTOR which makes blasters ineffective: range. Speed and agility bonuses to blaster ships is a step in the right direction, but from what I can tell, Minmatar ships will still be able to outrun them, and considering autocannons still provide more than triple the effective range of blasters (as does Scorch, but I'll get to that), I don't see how anything really changes. In addition, changes to ship stats does nothing in terms of getting the most out of tracking enhancers and tracking computers. At present, hybrids get the least out of these fittings because THE BASE STATS OF HYBRIDS IS FUNDAMENTALLY BROKEN!

Railguns get their damage increased from "crap" to "slightly above crap," which I guess is a good thing, but the problems by railguns wasn't only damage. First and foremost, railguns do not bring anything unique to the table. Artillery dons the alpha crown and lasers don the ammo-free, instant-reload crown. Railguns have nothing like this. In addition, railguns [and blasters for that matter] receive a fairly even split in their optimal and falloff stats, whereas projectiles are primarily falloff and lasers are primarily optimal. This may not seem like a big deal at a glance, but what this means to a seasoned pilot is a hybrid user must boost TWO stats to match the effective range of projectile counterparts (who only need falloff) and laser counterparts (who only need optimal). This is illustrated best when looking at T2 ammo for short-range turrets. Null does not hold a candle to the effective ranges of Barrage and Scorch, and it is primarly because the bonuses applied don't have to be split between optimal and falloff. Splitting the bonuses from other range-increasing fitting mods and having to chase down twice as many rigs and implants to match effective range simply MAGNIFIES the problem.

Ultimately, with the proposed changes, hybrids still hold the most negatives in terms of fundamentals:

-requires cap: let's face it, a cap-usage reduction is really just sugar-coating on a rotten egg. Cap use is cap use.
-requires ammo/reload
-fixed damage type

Honestly, I really do appreciate the effort, but I find myself wondering if devs/testers who implemented these changes actually PLAY Eve. My money would be on "not really."

These changes are well thought out, when you consider that most gallente ships have a superior slot layout that gives the pilot many fitting options+drone damage or larger bays. Anything more and they'd be overpowered hence the overhaul of the deimos.

And to answer your question about devs playing this game, most of them do pve, the reason is because if they do pvp/join an alliance etc someone finds out and starts calling "hacks" or "unfair advantage" everytime they get shot at.

You're wrong.

They will probably and finally be flown more than before if those stats stay like we can read on that sheet. And I will no longuer hear or read some idiot telling me if I want to do logistics is Guardian or stay at home.

No, i am not. Give an explaination perhaps.

The oneiros had a niche role of supporting other logis before. With those changes it removes that.
Now what is it? A ship that is inferior the guardian in every possible way and without that niche role.

Its really not hard to understand.

Post an oneiros fit you've flow before for lols.