well, having more market orders will help. if i feel like going OCD for a day, i clear up at least 100 orders for two dozen or so items, get a huge cup of coffee and then spend a few hours cycling through the orders like a monkey. that said, there are other, bigger opportunities to cash out other than just daytrading.

First, if you have 140m in sell orders and 150m in buys (so 290 total), then 10m/day is a bit low, but not terrible.

10% a day should be easily doable, so around 30m/day.

The people you see getting 100m/day are not investing 300m :)

I usually run 10-20 orders when station trading, if I use all 273 it drives me crazy after a few hours :p

My method for finding items is:

1) Does the item have 10% margin?
2) Does the item shift more than 500/day? (Ideally 1k/day)
3) Does the item go equally to buy and sell?

If it doesnt have 10% between buy and sell, I may still trade it, but it is more susceptible to fluctuations.

the 500/day is purely for T2 modules, things like T2/Faction ships are slower movers, but have often bigger margins (Same for faction modules).

If it looks like it is profitable, and moves enough volume, then I check the history table to see if it goes equally to buys and sells, as there is no point having a 50% margin if no one ever fills a buy order.

I also check the number of competitors. Sometimes I dont care how many there are, but for laid back trading, fewer is better.

If these criteria are fulfilled, then I will stick a test buy order up for a small amount, to see how long it takes to fill. As soon as I get 1 module, I flip it to see how long it takes to sell.

Also, while waiting for stuff to fill, I look through the market for either:

Overfilled buy orders (those bunches of items 0.01 above the buy order price) to grab without having to pay broker fees \o/
or
Items which have had a rapid shift in price (An unexpectedly large margin, like when, say all the caracals got bought out).

When you look at the price history table, it shows a Low, High and Average price

The low (especially in the forge) is the buy price usually, the High is the sell price, and the average, is, well, the average.

If the average price is close to the low price, the item primarily goes to buy orders, and if it is closer to the high price, then it primarily goes to sell orders.
If the price is pretty close to halfway between the low and high price, then it means it goes fairly equally to buys and sells.

Example (Made up item)

Low: 100 High. 200 Average: 110 <------ This item goes mostly to buy orders

Low 100 High 200 Average 190 <------------- Primarily to sells

Low 100 High 200 Average 150 <------------- Goes to both buys and sells about equally.


(Always cross check the high and low price against the current market price as well, and take a glance down the Avg price for the last month, to see which direction the price is going)

First, if you have 140m in sell orders and 150m in buys (so 290 total), then 10m/day is a bit low, but not terrible.

10% a day should be easily doable, so around 30m/day.

The people you see getting 100m/day are not investing 300m :)

I usually run 10-20 orders when station trading, if I use all 273 it drives me crazy after a few hours :p

My method for finding items is:

1) Does the item have 10% margin?
2) Does the item shift more than 500/day? (Ideally 1k/day)
3) Does the item go equally to buy and sell?

If it doesnt have 10% between buy and sell, I may still trade it, but it is more susceptible to fluctuations.

the 500/day is purely for T2 modules, things like T2/Faction ships are slower movers, but have often bigger margins (Same for faction modules).

If it looks like it is profitable, and moves enough volume, then I check the history table to see if it goes equally to buys and sells, as there is no point having a 50% margin if no one ever fills a buy order.

I also check the number of competitors. Sometimes I dont care how many there are, but for laid back trading, fewer is better.

If these criteria are fulfilled, then I will stick a test buy order up for a small amount, to see how long it takes to fill. As soon as I get 1 module, I flip it to see how long it takes to sell.

Also, while waiting for stuff to fill, I look through the market for either:

Overfilled buy orders (those bunches of items 0.01 above the buy order price) to grab without having to pay broker fees \o/
or
Items which have had a rapid shift in price (An unexpectedly large margin, like when, say all the caracals got bought out).

Alcohol helps. YMMV.

Being wasted works both ways.

When I was managing >3000 market orders, making 100m/day was very easy. Hell, making 10 times as much was pretty "easy".

Now I manage 300-600 orders, updated occasionally (sometimes not for months), and with revenue that averages less than 100m/day, with about 20-60b worth of sell orders.

I doubt that low an amount is possible on 20b isk of orders. Or do you mean profit instead of revenue?

If you wanna be a station trader, standing is important
the lowest broker fee would be 0.18% , 0.75% none standing
Think about, how much tax you paied

I have only had one character that ever had/has any decent standing for the station he was trading in so i say not needed.

It can be helpfull offcourse but not something you need to focus on.

It depends on what and how you trade.

If you trade a large volume of low margin items then cutting out fees will make a big difference.

If you trade high margin items then not so much.

There are styles of trading that are only viable with minimal fees, just like there are styles of trading that are only viable if you are prepared to camp your orders and 0.01 constantly. You do not have to adopt those styles of trading if you do not want to.

Trade in high volume items, no point making a 25% profit if only 4 are traded each day.

Unless it's a high value item.

I don't bother with low traded items unless there isn't alot of competition. The profit may be there but that's if you can manage to buy/sell them.

I don't bother with low traded items unless there isn't alot of competition. The profit may be there but that's if you can manage to buy/sell them.

I may be well suited to selling high ticket items, person-to-person, using interpersonal skills, extensive knowledge of my product and well received after-sales service.