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Skill Training Online
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
65
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Posted - 2013.07.24 15:37:00 -
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Most people are in high-sec right?
And most people are struggling to make enough ISK right?
CCP could dramatically change the way the game works for the better, by making ISK more readily available in high-security space.
What would be buffed?
Extraction of Ore (strip miner I buff) Mission Rewards (LP buff) and a 50% bonus to all activities completed within a fleet.
That third one is the real gem, this is an MMORPG where people are supposed to play togther, if we give a 50% bonus for people who work together you'll find way more social interaction.
And before you ask, why high-sec?
The answer is simple: Low-security space is full of people with emotional problems who take their aggression out on innocent people and animals. It is full of pirates.
Null-Security space is already full of ISK N64 moons are everywhere and the x-type loot can sell for billions.
If I could fix these other two regions I'd leave null-sec alone, and perhaps add concord to random low-sec systems so there would be like a 10% chance when committing a crime to get concorded. |

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
5230
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Posted - 2013.07.24 15:39:00 -
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Get out. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |

Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
335
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Posted - 2013.07.24 15:39:00 -
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This should be good. |

Seven Koskanaiken
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
294
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Posted - 2013.07.24 15:39:00 -
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Awooooooooooooooga. |

Spurty
912
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Posted - 2013.07.24 15:42:00 -
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Actually running missions with buddies should have benefits
Solo content should not be buffed
Working in teams of actual people (not isboxer though) needs more loving.
All assumptions from OP though are "not worth the paper they were drawn up on" --- GÇ£If you think this Universe is bad, you should see some of the others.GÇ¥ GÇò Philip K. **** |

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
3070
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Posted - 2013.07.24 15:50:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Get out.
and this: --> Features & Ideas Discussion
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

Livonia Velorea
Banana Corp
2
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Posted - 2013.07.24 15:54:00 -
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Spurty wrote:Actually running missions with buddies should have benefits
There already are benefits. Faster mission running, less risk, multiple missions at a time so on and so forth. It might not be as clear cut as a reward bonus/boost but the benefits are already there. |

Sakaron Hefdover
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2013.07.24 16:19:00 -
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Please donate your stuff first to me and
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Get out. |

Lee Hekard
Photon Scorpions
19
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Posted - 2013.07.24 16:26:00 -
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This is a great idea! The income bonus should be reletive to the sec status of the system:
0.5 = 50% bonus to ISK reward of missions and ore mining amount. 0.6 = 75% bonus to ISK reward of missions and ore mining amount. 0.7 = 100% bonus to ISK reward of missions and ore mining amount. 0.8 = 150% bonus to ISK reward of missions and ore mining amount. 0.9 = 175% bonus to ISK reward of missions and ore mining amount. 1.0 = 300% bonus to ISK reward of missions and ore mining amount.
Also should be no broker fees / transaction tax & no tax on high sec PI. Would make the game much more fare imho. |

Korvus Falek
Depraved Corruption Space Wolves Alliance
71
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Posted - 2013.07.24 16:28:00 -
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10/10. Nice one.
Now gtfo to nul, low, or w-space for real if your were serious. ISK is easy as **** to come by. Quit hanging out in the newbie grounds of EvE and everyone might make a bit more iskies |

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
14988
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Posted - 2013.07.24 16:30:00 -
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Didn't this already happen? Remember when incursions were big and prices on everything skyrocketed?  "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á
Want to see what Surf is training or how little isk Surf has?-á http://eveboard.com/pilot/Surfin%27s_PlunderBunny |

flakeys
Arkham Innovations
1239
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Posted - 2013.07.24 16:32:00 -
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Lee Hekard wrote:This is a great idea! The income bonus should be reletive to the sec status of the system:
0.5 = 50% bonus to ISK reward of missions and ore mining amount. 0.6 = 75% bonus to ISK reward of missions and ore mining amount. 0.7 = 100% bonus to ISK reward of missions and ore mining amount. 0.8 = 150% bonus to ISK reward of missions and ore mining amount. 0.9 = 175% bonus to ISK reward of missions and ore mining amount. 1.0 = 300% bonus to ISK reward of missions and ore mining amount.
Also should be no broker fees / transaction tax & no tax on high sec PI. Would make the game much more fare imho.
You forgot to add perfect refine without skills in 1.0
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Whitehound
1660
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Posted - 2013.07.24 16:34:00 -
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Skill Training Online wrote:And most people are struggling to make enough ISK right? I love all the responses above, but allow me to give you an explanation.
Many players are struggling, because they buy PLEX before anything and then have little ISKs left and then they have to go grind some more. It will always be a struggle for them, because this is how the Free2Play-concept works: others pay for your game time and you produce ISKs for them in return.
If you now go and increase the income, of high-sec or null-sec does not matter, then it will at first lead to less PLEX on the markets, because these will sell out fast and some players will have to stop playing EVE. And later will the prices for everything go up, because there is simply a lot more currency in the system to go around.
In short, it is a bad idea. Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling. |

Riot Girl
Thundercats The Initiative.
1396
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Posted - 2013.07.24 16:34:00 -
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As a friend of the high-sec mission runners, I feel it would be a good idea to encourage group-play and more social interaction. While it would be in my interests to allow an increase to their profits from mission running, I don't feel it would be beneficial to the overall balance of the universe of Eve. I also feel it would encourage these players to shy away from experimenting with the more unique and exciting playstyles the game has to offer and that is in direct opposition of my own personal agenda. Oh god. |

Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
194
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Posted - 2013.07.24 16:47:00 -
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Quote:Increase High-Security Income. Why? For anyone with the gumption and smarts to do so, HiSec industrialism and mission running already provides more than adequate income. Why put a thumb on the scale? If you want more ISK, do those things that make ISK. It's not like there's anyone stopping you... Except your own skills and abilities. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
15720
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Posted - 2013.07.24 17:26:00 -
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Skill Training Online wrote:Most people are in high-sec right? Probably not, no. Based on the character distribution, it's probably no more than 40% of the players or thereabouts.
Quote:And most people are struggling to make enough ISK right? Not really, no.
So highsec income could use a decent-sized reduction, since it's a bit too high for what you have to do for it. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |

Kyt Thrace
Lightspeed Enterprises Fidelas Constans
248
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Posted - 2013.07.24 17:32:00 -
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I actually think that after 6 months playing the game you should lose all your highsec income.
That's right, after 6 months old you cannot make isk in highsec anymore period!
It will force people to go to low & null sec.
Benefits
No more Jita!!!! No more highsec carebears only!!!!
R.I.P. Vile Rat |

Manfred Hideous
TOHOKU 9.0
57
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Posted - 2013.07.24 17:38:00 -
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Well done. You had me 'til
Skill Training Online wrote: Null-Security space is already full of ISK N64 moons are everywhere and the x-type loot can sell for billions.
and
If I could fix these other two regions I'd leave null-sec alone, and perhaps add concord to random low-sec systems so there would be like a 10% chance when committing a crime to get concorded.
8/10
Kyt Thrace wrote:I actually think that after 6 months playing the game you should lose all your highsec income.
That's right, after 6 months old you cannot make isk in highsec anymore period!
It will force people to go to low & null sec.
Benefits
No more Jita!!!! No more highsec carebears only!!!!
I too would like to see the game get back to <100K subs. Space is too crowded anymore. :) |

Falin Whalen
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
367
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Posted - 2013.07.24 17:42:00 -
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FopyRHHlt3M You've got to remember that these are just simple miners. These are people of the land. The common clay of New Eden. You know... morons. |

ElQuirko
Jester Syndicate S0UTHERN C0MF0RT
1644
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Posted - 2013.07.24 17:50:00 -
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I think this thread is so mind-blowingly excellent it could theoretically cause the trollocalypse. Save the Domi model! Spacewhales should be preserved. |

Maximillian German
Spectres Syndicate
28
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Posted - 2013.07.24 17:53:00 -
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obvious troll account is obvious |

Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
196
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Posted - 2013.07.24 18:15:00 -
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ElQuirko wrote:I think this thread is so mind-blowingly excellent it could theoretically cause the trollocalypse. Not enough tinfoil for that.
Maybe add some AFK Cloaking? |

Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
2450
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Posted - 2013.07.24 18:18:00 -
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Plastic Psycho wrote:ElQuirko wrote:I think this thread is so mind-blowingly excellent it could theoretically cause the trollocalypse. Not enough tinfoil for that. Maybe add some AFK Cloaking? AFK cloaking, goonhate, and 15 references to WoW. Thus shall it then be complete.
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Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
196
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Posted - 2013.07.24 18:26:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Plastic Psycho wrote:ElQuirko wrote:I think this thread is so mind-blowingly excellent it could theoretically cause the trollocalypse. Not enough tinfoil for that. Maybe add some AFK Cloaking? AFK cloaking, goonhate, and 15 references to WoW. Thus shall it then be complete.
 Whoah! Scary..! |

Jonah Gravenstein
Matah Kagmi Designs
11274
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Posted - 2013.07.24 18:28:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Plastic Psycho wrote:ElQuirko wrote:I think this thread is so mind-blowingly excellent it could theoretically cause the trollocalypse. Not enough tinfoil for that. Maybe add some AFK Cloaking? AFK cloaking, goonhate, Chribba, and 15 references to WoW. Thus shall it then be complete. FTFY
On topic
Bullshit is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are ~ Harry G. Frankfurt |

Lugia3
Pirates Incorporated
477
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Posted - 2013.07.24 18:29:00 -
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Increasing income would have no effect on the value of items. ISK would just de-value, therefore you get the same ships for the same effort, just more numbers involved.
Just like the US dollar. The government keeps printing more and more money, which further devalues the dollar. Yarr |

Victoria Sin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
392
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Posted - 2013.07.24 18:29:00 -
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0/10. |

Seven Koskanaiken
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
298
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Posted - 2013.07.24 19:17:00 -
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As obvious as a troll what used to be Professor of Trolling at Oxford University but has moved on, and is now working for the UN at the High Commission of International Trolling. |

brinelan
The Flying Dead Insidious Empire
78
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Posted - 2013.07.24 19:22:00 -
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In hisec everything gets handed to you on a silver platter by npcs. You should pay for that. nullsec you fight for what you have. Player made and supported should always get more income then npc gifted areas and infrastructure. |

Captain Tardbar
Sons of Sam
444
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Posted - 2013.07.24 20:44:00 -
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Makes me wish I started this thread. Excellent OP. Would read again. "Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby". If you fantasize about being immoral it means you enjoy being immoral deep down. |

Tetsuo Tsukaya
Pixel Navigators
76
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Posted - 2013.07.24 20:44:00 -
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Nerf hi sec, which then kills demand for SNIs and CNRs because there are no more mission runners, Caldari FW implodes with no way for farmers to convert LP into ISK, then Gallente FW churns out near limitless Navy Vexors, crashes the market and then I can buy a Navy Vexor for less than the price of a standard Vexor as farmers desperately try to unload all their now worthless stock.
I can totally dig it |

E-2C Hawkeye
State War Academy Caldari State
237
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Posted - 2013.07.24 21:05:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Plastic Psycho wrote:ElQuirko wrote:I think this thread is so mind-blowingly excellent it could theoretically cause the trollocalypse. Not enough tinfoil for that. Maybe add some AFK Cloaking? AFK cloaking, goonhate, and 15 references to WoW. Thus shall it then be complete. well you have completed the first offical troll reply.....carry on |

Andrea Griffin
623
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Posted - 2013.07.24 21:07:00 -
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Another pathetic 0/10 troll from STO. CCP Sreegs is my favorite developer. |

Gaellia Bonaventure
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
1372
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Posted - 2013.07.24 21:08:00 -
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Obvious troll is obvious.
Sure is summer in here. Bring your possibles. |

destiny2
Abh Academy Abh Alliance
153
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Posted - 2013.07.24 22:29:00 -
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erm incursions in hs make people enough money even doing level IV's getting LP's and buying faction items with lp's then selling the item makes you a good fair bit. |

Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
1392
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Posted - 2013.07.24 22:39:00 -
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/me pokes his head into this thread and decides to get right back out.... HTFU!...for the children! |

Steve Spooner
Mordu's Military Industrial Command Circle-Of-Two
103
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Posted - 2013.07.24 22:41:00 -
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Ha. Just Ha. |

Generals Alt
Frying Coke
41
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Posted - 2013.07.24 23:52:00 -
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Skill Training Online wrote:Most people are in high-sec right?
And most people are struggling to make enough ISK right?
CCP could dramatically change the way the game works for the better, by making ISK more readily available in high-security space.
What would be buffed?
Extraction of Ore (strip miner I buff) Mission Rewards (LP buff) and a 50% bonus to all activities completed within a fleet.
That third one is the real gem, this is an MMORPG where people are supposed to play togther, if we give a 50% bonus for people who work together you'll find way more social interaction.
And before you ask, why high-sec?
The answer is simple: Low-security space is full of people with emotional problems who take their aggression out on innocent people and animals. It is full of pirates.
Null-Security space is already full of ISK N64 moons are everywhere and the x-type loot can sell for billions.
If I could fix these other two regions I'd leave null-sec alone, and perhaps add concord to random low-sec systems so there would be like a 10% chance when committing a crime to get concorded.
Oi, i may be crazy but no one is innocent as such i do not take my aggression out on innocent people. They're all guilty one way or an other.
This disproves your post. I win. |

Tazling Crendraven
Southern Technologies
1
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Posted - 2013.07.25 00:16:00 -
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I have to disagree, I like how EVE is just fine, its a challenge. Risk = ISK Low risk = low ISK rewards High risk = high ISK rewards
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Felicity Love
Whore and Peace
758
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Posted - 2013.07.25 04:28:00 -
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... grabs some popcorn and a lawn chair, being able to see the incoming "flamestrike" from about 4 regions away...
Proud Beta Tester for "Bumping Uglies for Dummies" |

Vladimir Norkoff
Income Redistribution Service
226
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Posted - 2013.07.25 04:54:00 -
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I think he could have done better if he included a bit more outraged entitlement. The part with lowsec was well done, but the nullsec bit fell kind of flat. Overall a respectable try, but nothing to write home about. |

Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
514
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Posted - 2013.07.25 05:55:00 -
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Tazling Crendraven wrote:I have to disagree, I like how EVE is just fine, its a challenge. Risk = ISK Low risk = low ISK rewards High risk = high ISK rewards
Except that Low Risk Areas actually give moderate to high ISK rewards and High Risk Areas don-¦t give adequately more ISK rewards than the Low Risk Areas.
Forum-unbanned since 2011.10.20.
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Liafcipe9000
Smeghead Empire
8936
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Posted - 2013.07.25 05:56:00 -
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hisec is fine l2p
tl;dr drugs are bad You may gain the knowledge, but you will lose your belief, with all its mystery and comfort. If there was proof, absolute and certain, there is an afterlife, why not quit this life, and be done with it? Ponder about these things all your life, and you're a philosopher. Compress these ponderings into a couple of pages, and you'll go mad. |

William Walker
House Aratus Fatal Ascension
131
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Posted - 2013.07.25 06:28:00 -
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Selling standard drop boosters! Contact me for details. Seems like OP had too many boosters. pâ+(*GîÆGêçGîÆ*)n+ë pü+(pé£GêçpÇü-¦)pü+ (GùòGÇ+GùòG£+) |

Spankijs Omaristos
Asteria Imperative Tribal Band
11
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Posted - 2013.07.25 08:08:00 -
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Skill Training Online wrote:Most people are in high-sec right?
What would be buffed?
Extraction of Ore (strip miner I buff) Mission Rewards (LP buff) and a 50% bonus to all activities completed within a fleet.
That third one is the real gem, this is an MMORPG where people are supposed to play togther, if we give a 50% bonus for people who work together you'll find way more social interaction.
How about this, you get your buffed Hi-sec, BUT, Every hour or 2 with random timer, Concord disappears from Hi-sec and it becomes PvP free zone for a hour, like null? mm? How about this? No!?
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
359

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Posted - 2013.07.25 23:22:00 -
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Please don't feed the trolls people. Although I have to say this one was quite original...
Thread locked. ISD Ezwal Lt. Commander Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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