http://www.twitch.tv/zbezz/b/435055648


How can ccp look the other way .
This has to be wrong

Then explain why or GTFO.

It's generally bad for a game if third party software gives some players a huge advantage (automated or not). The Eve community has such a dense developer/IT component that CCP can get away with semi-integrated third party tools, but the OP's intuition is fairly reasonable given that almost every other game takes a stricter stance.

It's generally bad for a game if third party software gives some players a huge advantage (automated or not). The Eve community has such a dense developer/IT component that CCP can get away with semi-integrated third party tools, but the OP's intuition is fairly reasonable given that almost every other game takes a stricter stance.

besides that
an equal fleet on numbers easily kills the 40+ multiboxer.

Finally, the only reasons i can figure to the legality of this program are: they can't detect it (yet) or they want to catch the remaining bot users that still use ISBoxer on their bot programs

ISBoxer and macros a gray area that CCP neglects

Both, with 1 click can do multiple actions automatically: ISBoxer do it simultaneously on several selected pre-defined accounts, macros do it for a certain amount of time and have to be called on any selected account you want to run it. Very few diferences, for the same result: automation, less click stress. First is not against the rules, but the second is. The major difference is macros can be run while player is afk and ISBoxer needs a human in front of PC as far as i know

CCP wants ele online players to be social, however they permit the use of programs like ISBoxer (insert shock face).

Finally, the only reasons i can figure to the legality of this program are: they can't detect it (yet) or they want to catch the remaining bot users that still use ISBoxer on their bot programs

What, you mean like World of Warcraft?

No. You are wrong. There is a an infamous player (and a handful like him exist) who multiboxes 40+ accounts at a time and completely locks down PvP areas for the opposite faction. I can't be bothered finding you a twitch link but trust me he exists and also used to stream his activites on the regular. Blizzard are completely happy to allow this, who, like CCP, also have a very strict and no tolerance policy when it comes to "hacks", exploits, bots and all other sorts of illegitimate activities against the TOS.

I personally see no problem with it, as long as nothing is automated. It takes a bit of research and practice to get your Isboxer setup running efficiently and well, and there is no automation whatsoever.

Whats the advantage?

10 way split with 10x the loot is 1x rate of gain.

It gives CCP 9 extra subs.

i actually buying gtc for my 20+ accounts.
my Impact on the market is Zero, on the contrary.

so go on with your flames.

Whats the advantage?

10 way split with 10x the loot is 1x rate of gain.

It gives CCP 9 extra subs.

Presuming he makes 70mil/character and plays 10 hours a week at it, he'll be seeing ~30bil a month, with a bit over 5bil / mo costs if plexing the characters.

Consider it currently the same as holding 10 R64s for the month.

Obviously, 10x manpower doesn't equate to 10x loot. I mean, the posted video is of soloing incursions. I'm all ears if you can't teach me to run incursions efficiently in a solo apoc.

He's also presumably buying PLEX with all the incursion money. I don't feel like having a bad economics discussion, but buying 9x PLEX does NOT directly equate to paying CCP 9x subscriptions.

Buying PLEX, GTC, or Subs does equate to money CCP is collecting. All 3 of those items can be purchased and activated at a later date so save the economics rhetoric.

PLEX equates to money that CCP collected in the past. Buying PLEX increases the demand, but that doesn't necessarily increase the supply - let alone directly equate to paying CCP money. I hate over complicated economic nonsense more than the next guy, but this is a pretty fundamental thing you can't assume.

You can buy single PLEX directly from CCP.

OK? We were talking about someone buying it off the market with ISK to renew their subscription,

And he'll have the same amount of ISK leftover per toon as everyone else in New Eden who makes 70 mil an hour. And he'll spend the same amount of time farming PLEX as anyone who makes 70 mil an hour.

And he'll have the same amount of ISK leftover per toon as everyone else in New Eden who makes 70 mil an hour. And he'll spend the same amount of time farming PLEX as anyone who makes 70 mil an hour.

How can you even write this and act like it's correct?

The guy has 25bil left over to do with what he wishes, he has no obligation to spend it on each of the characters evenly.

Can you make 25bil in 40 hours?