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Blitz Hacker
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Posted - 2005.12.16 08:42:00 -
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Thought I'd try out the new missions; all excited. Goto my first level 3 gallante agent.. high quality. Blam blam.. np.. same ole drill.
Move to another agent; get the good ole retribution mission.. Warp in .. 5 cruisers.. nothing else.. Cake.. warp out to about 55km's in my tempest.. open up.
At which point promptly got my ass handed to me. by the time they were all dead I was at 1% cap; shield tank completely broke.. had 221hps of armor left. I'm up for a challange .. but damn man; I'm in a BS that I fly reasonably well; I shouldn't be having my rear handed to me by 5 cruisers.. mission reward.. 175k isk.. gj
-Blitz-
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Sarafi
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Posted - 2005.12.16 09:04:00 -
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Yes im also finding that lvl 2 missions that i used to breeze through as a noob with a caracal (even did a lvl 3 once thou it took a while) im finding the new lvl 2 missions very hard and unrewarding for the effort put in, with a fully tech 2 caracal and a crap load more skills  Havent tried new lvl 3's yet as ive moved area.
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Demon Johnson
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Posted - 2005.12.16 09:19:00 -
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Quote by DEV Zrakor:
 Originally by: Zrakor
The reward of the mission will balance itself out over a few days after RMR release, i.e. it uses the 'average' time it takes to complete it to calculate the reward.
Also the spawns are in waves. If you're fast enough, you won't be facing 14 rats at once.
This is a new feature that was implemented in RMR; i.e. waves using the deadspace system. You'll be seeing it used in a few missions, and you'll see a hint about this in the mission objectives in the journal.
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Tanya Kovacs
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Posted - 2005.12.16 10:16:00 -
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again: sounds like I will stop lvl3 and go back to lvl2 in my Ferox(!) until things are balanced a bit. all this mission-reports of you (players) sounds damn scary 
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Viktor VonCarstein
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Posted - 2005.12.16 12:19:00 -
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Did a fair number of level three misions before the patch and they were easy.
Did Spy Stash this morning against guristas using a tanked apoc was a little bit more difficult with the target jamming and missile spamming cruisers, but not too much of a drama. Second stage was easy with 3 cruiser and 2 frig. Most of my skills are in tanking ability and this seemed to be the way to go. You overcome the jam in a minute or two and can start locking enemies back up then.
Not done any other level 3's yet so will see how they turn out. this was a Quality 19 agent. reward 575000 625000 as time bonus and 1500LP so a good reward hopefully see some more of that CCP.
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Vetraband
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Posted - 2005.12.16 14:26:00 -
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Edited by: Vetraband on 16/12/2005 14:30:25
well so far i have soloed spy stash and retrebution and the 7's prison facility in my apoc with nothing more than 4 hammerhead 1's 8 med lasers 2 cap boosters 3 named armor repairers and 1 named small shield booster :) and there all lvl 3 ... oh and before you say anything ... im a minier who is switching over to fighting
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HUGO DRAX
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Posted - 2005.12.16 14:43:00 -
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I have not recieved spystash or the better high end missions yet. I did silence the informant and some other mission (l3) and did not notice a major difference.
I wonder if the EW stuff is in the higher end L3s only ie AE,Spystash,blackhub. if they up the difficulty they should increase the pay/lp also.
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HUGO DRAX
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Posted - 2005.12.16 14:43:00 -
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I have not recieved spystash or the better high end missions yet. I did silence the informant and some other mission (l3) and did not notice a major difference.
I wonder if the EW stuff is in the higher end L3s only ie AE,Spystash,blackhub. if they up the difficulty they should increase the pay/lp also.
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migwar
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Posted - 2005.12.16 14:44:00 -
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Are there no deadspace gates anymore? my mission said it was a deadspace, i warped to gate and was straight into the rats, Aggro'd by everything and unable to warp out boom goes geddon. :(
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BurningJr
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Posted - 2005.12.16 14:57:00 -
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Edited by: BurningJr on 16/12/2005 14:58:22
Yes I agree. It is now very difficult. I guess I gotta re-think my setup. Maybe a tank now. I got my butt handed to me the first mission I did also. Had to warp out. Stopped playing after that.
edit for spelling...
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HUGO DRAX
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Posted - 2005.12.16 15:05:00 -
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I had to go through a gate to get to the second part in silcence the informant (l3)
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Blitz Hacker
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Posted - 2005.12.16 16:08:00 -
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Originally by: BurningJr
Edited by: BurningJr on 16/12/2005 14:58:22
Yes I agree. It is now very difficult. I guess I gotta re-think my setup. Maybe a tank now. I got my butt handed to me the first mission I did also. Had to warp out. Stopped playing after that.
edit for spelling...
I'm minmatar; not a real option :) I at first thought the minmatar's got uber nerf'd .. but I've found other people having massive problems; I don't mind the harder stuff .. but if I was in a bc I would of been a goner for sure.
As with the mission rewards for the most part the loot they drop is still junk.. and still frequently getting div shield boosters from these new 'uber' cruisers.. I'm very disappointed; might take up a mining career at this point.
-Blitz-
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Redundancy's First Law of Game Features:
When mentioning a feature or change to the playerbase after release, people will generally assume the interpretation they find most controversial.
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Kalendra Panas
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Posted - 2005.12.16 18:08:00 -
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hmm..tried a few lvl 3. seemed as easy as before in my standard tanked mega. angel extravaganza even seemed a bit easier, cause aggro took longer, missiles were less than before. there only seems to be a problem hitting orbiting frigs with drones. a webbed frig wouldnt go down to my 5 ogres, which was no problem pre-patch. i finally figured a way to kill it. call back the drones to the ship and re-send them to attack. they seem to make damage while approaching but very little while orbiting the target.
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Tellus Fargle
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Posted - 2005.12.16 18:08:00 -
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I was doing a lvl 2 mission in a prophecy and got smacked down. It was supposed to be 3 waves, but I got them all at once. At least I hope it was 3 at once because if that was one wave...wow no way.
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Meris
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Posted - 2005.12.16 20:12:00 -
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Just did a level 3 Blackmarket hub - had some trouble with the Mercenary Wingmen, kept losing lock. Fortunately, my drones ate 'em  .
Bit worried about some of the new missions though!
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Duros
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Posted - 2005.12.16 20:41:00 -
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Originally by: Sarafi
Yes im also finding that lvl 2 missions that i used to breeze through as a noob with a caracal (even did a lvl 3 once thou it took a while) im finding the new lvl 2 missions very hard and unrewarding for the effort put in, with a fully tech 2 caracal and a crap load more skills Havent tried new lvl 3's yet as ive moved area.
Lvl 2 missions are nothing if you know what you are doing, i done alot lvl 2 missions today, with a rupture though tanked to 4k armor but close-ranged and with use of drones. :S
"IM THE PANCAKE MAN"
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Denga Vulture
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Posted - 2005.12.16 20:59:00 -
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Its not an overkill Its just more a challenge now !!! Did some lvl 3 mission today in my Brutix (Retribution, Silent, Seek & Destroy and some more) ...was quite fun .. Nothing to change here
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kilyn
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Posted - 2005.12.16 21:32:00 -
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Originally by: Duros
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Lvl 2 missions are nothing if you know what you are doing, i done alot lvl 2 missions today, with a rupture though tanked to 4k armor but close-ranged and with use of drones. :S
i done about 10 lv.2 missions... with a vigilant... not really hard.. almost simple as before, except than rats come very quickely next to me and while so closer are a little harder to kill. but except that i didnt find big changes. i didnt hav time today ti check with lv.3 and 4 missions ; maybe tomorrow
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Jaleean Atheria
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Posted - 2005.12.16 22:42:00 -
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I havent had any problems sofar with my level 3 missions, but im wierd and fly small ships so I just dont get hit hard or often.
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Kael D'mende
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Posted - 2005.12.16 22:50:00 -
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WTF !! this is just so out of wack its not even remotly funny.. dead space mission and everything ergos 4 webs on u in no time and boom everything turns red on u..
Is it CCP'S wish that we shall start doing L3 missions in bs now ? i mean come on... jess stop ******* up the damm game, or the big whohoo we broke the record will soon be wohoo somebody is actually online..
losing a hac to a L3 mission is not ballanced, it takes about 100 missions to afford one.. get it straight !!
/Kael
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MWEI
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Posted - 2005.12.17 00:38:00 -
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So far the only problem I faced is my target lock break every now and then. ECM npcs? which one? theres no warning, nothing, target lock just breaks up. Funny thing too, because the message displayed when I fail a lock is "My skill only allow 0 target to be locked"
special npc ecm that change your targeting ability to 0?
other than that with the drone change I need to train up some new drone skills to get my old heavy's firepower back, other than that its not been so hard... in my raven.
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Tellus Fargle
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Posted - 2005.12.17 01:09:00 -
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Originally by: Duros
Originally by: Sarafi
Yes im also finding that lvl 2 missions that i used to breeze through as a noob with a caracal (even did a lvl 3 once thou it took a while) im finding the new lvl 2 missions very hard and unrewarding for the effort put in, with a fully tech 2 caracal and a crap load more skills Havent tried new lvl 3's yet as ive moved area.
Lvl 2 missions are nothing if you know what you are doing, i done alot lvl 2 missions today, with a rupture though tanked to 4k armor but close-ranged and with use of drones. :S
"IM THE PANCAKE MAN"
With all dew respect, no they aren't. The drastic change from pre RMR lvl 2 missions to the post missions are rediculous. I lost a Prophecy with 4k+ armor in just a few seconds. I couldn't warp out fast enough. That's including a medium shield and armor repairer running. Exactly how am I supposed to survive long enough to use strategy when I get wtfpwned by a level 2 mission spawn in around 5 seconds or less? I am not saying all of them are hard, certainly not. I did a couple prior to getting my butt handed to me. There are, however, some that are overly difficult when compared to the reward.
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2005.12.17 01:49:00 -
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Warping straight into the middle of everything on some of these mew missions is not good.
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Angelic Resolution
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Posted - 2005.12.17 06:35:00 -
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Sorry but I love the new missions. I'm doing them in a geddon and laughing my arse off! Your problem is you're not tanked properly IMO. I went against 3 sanshas spawns, 14 cruisers, 6 frigates. 79% EM resist's and had no problems at all. If anything the only thing that needs increasing is rewards by about 100k to 250k and it'd be sweet. Otherwise I've made 5million ISK over 5 lvl 3's and already sitting on 3k LP with a NEW agent.
Lvl 3's rock. Gj CCP
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Janus Ovellian
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Posted - 2005.12.17 07:09:00 -
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Well... my agents a bit mad and has given me spy stash and Angel extravaganza alternately for the last 4 missions. Can't say I found them any harder than usual, although I am in a muninn (can't fly bs - don't want to).
Hour or two later I've earned 8.5k LP, and a similar total in millions of isk reward.
Not so tough I don't think, for now. But we'll see.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2005.12.17 07:10:00 -
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"Funny thing too, because the message displayed when I fail a lock is "My skill only allow 0 target to be locked"
special npc ecm that change your targeting ability to 0?"
No, 'tis regular message when you are target jammed with ECM ^^;;
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Logan Xerxes
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Posted - 2005.12.17 08:50:00 -
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Originally by: j0sephine
"Funny thing too, because the message displayed when I fail a lock is "My skill only allow 0 target to be locked"
special npc ecm that change your targeting ability to 0?"
No, 'tis regular message when you are target jammed with ECM ^^;;
Of course, they would know that if they wern't such carebears
Originally by: Jin Entres
Indies With Frickin' Tractor Beams? 
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Joerd Toastius
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Posted - 2005.12.17 11:51:00 -
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Originally by: Tellus Fargle
I lost a Prophecy with 4k+ armor in just a few seconds. I couldn't warp out fast enough. That's including a medium shield and armor repairer running.
You're running a shield booster on a prophecy?
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Gorf King
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Posted - 2005.12.17 11:57:00 -
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Hmm...I haven't pulled any of the new level 3s yet, and I can see that when I do I may be in for a bit of culture shock.
I've had a handful of lvl 3s so far, but they're all been the old ones, and I've seen no really significant changes to them, as mentioned here.
Judging from the new mission experiences here I'm either in for a shock, or a pleasant surprise, when I pull one of the new breed.
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sbaker
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Posted - 2005.12.17 12:08:00 -
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Well, I guess I can put my losts up here as well, doing the 3 part mission for an lvl 3 agent 1) part is the kill the ships bring back the pilot 2) send the dna sample like 10jumps 3) The one that killed my apoc....warping in on top of 15 frigs and 5 cur, and then getting ganked like what ever you can think of...I was not happy..I wish there is an ICON to show you that you are warp scamble, and show which NPC ship it is...so you can blow that ship up... I going to log in and see what next set up I going to try...
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