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RomeStar
Empire Investments Logistics
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Posted - 2013.07.25 16:27:00 -
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Im sorry but I dont read every blog CCP puts out but whats stopping them from increasing or adding time to some or all skills with every expansion. They may be doing this already see Boiling Frog.
At what point does the player base actually stand up and say enough is enough or would they even notice if done on a small scale over a long period of time.
Of course the majority of responses to this post is "CCP has always said if you could fly before the patch you will be able to fly it after." Well thats great and all but what about new players/alts who just started. All they are doing is increasing revenue in my opinion.
If anyone has any stats on the training times now compared to 10yrs ago I would love to see them.
This is purely speculative but what if the training time for all the skills was actually increased by say 40-50hrs over the 10yr lifespan of eve would you care? Would you care if the increments of time has been going up say 10% with every expansion?
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.07.25 16:28:00 -
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/hands out tinfoil for hat-making.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific
Initiative Mercenaries
2469
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Posted - 2013.07.25 16:30:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:/hands out tinfoil Titanium for hat-making.
New crazy needs new material.
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ElQuirko
Jester Syndicate
S0UTHERN C0MF0RT
1650
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Posted - 2013.07.25 16:30:00 -
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Has Anyone Really Been Far Even as Decided to Use Even Go Want to do Look More Like?
Save the Domi model! Spacewhales should be preserved. |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
3132
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Posted - 2013.07.25 16:31:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:/hands out tinfoil for hat-making.
Takes one from the Doc. No I'm not gonna pay. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
15734
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Posted - 2013.07.25 16:31:00 -
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RomeStar wrote:Im sorry but I dont read every blog CCP puts out but whats stopping them from increasing or adding time to some or all skills with every expansion. Nothing. On the other hand, there's no reason why they should either, so it's not particularly likely to happen.
Quote:Of course the majority of responses to this post is "CCP has always said if you could fly before the patch you will be able to fly it after." Well thats great and all but what about new players/alts who just started. They're getting a much improved skill tree where most things are actually quicker to train for.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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War Kitten
Panda McLegion
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Posted - 2013.07.25 16:37:00 -
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RomeStar wrote:
If anyone has any stats on the training times now compared to 10yrs ago I would love to see them.
I don't think there were any battlecruisers or destroyers 10 years ago.
Now leave the horse alone. It's dead. Let it finish rotting.
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |
Riot Girl
Krypteia Operations
1400
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Posted - 2013.07.25 16:38:00 -
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RomeStar wrote:All they are doing is increasing revenue in my opinion.
Scandalous.
Oh god. |
Verunae Caseti
Viziam
Amarr Empire
153
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Posted - 2013.07.25 16:38:00 -
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Cause CCP benefits if it takes you longer train, right?
Someone needs to invent something like Captcha, except a system that can detect if you have your head up your ass before you can post. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
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Posted - 2013.07.25 16:44:00 -
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Can someone tell me what sparked all the late butthurt about a skill change that happened a while ago now?
Anyone?
this is what..the 10th thread about this this week alone?
GIVE IT UP PEOPLE. YOU WERE LAZY AND REFUSED TO LISTEN. NOW REAP THE REWARDS OF YOUR LAZINESS.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Matari Akiga
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2013.07.25 16:44:00 -
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Actually with a couple of exceptions, training is quicker now.
It used to be that you had to train the 6 learning skills up to level 5 in order to get to your full training speed without implants,
That alone would require several years to pay off the training time, so what did CCP do?
They removed the learning skills and applied the full bonus you would have got from training them to level 5 to every character so now you train faster.
That combined with the new arrangement of skills allows you in nearly all cases to get into a ship and be able to use it faster than before or at least in the same time.
The skill system offers constant progression if CCP were to add to much additional time to skills people would stop playing because we have goals and if we don't meet them people get bored and leave.
Sorry for my English. |
Alundil
Seniors Clan
Get Off My Lawn
234
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Posted - 2013.07.25 16:46:00 -
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Verunae Caseti wrote:Cause CCP benefits if it takes you longer train, right?
Someone needs to invent something like Captcha, except a system that can detect if you have your head up your ass before you can post.
It shall be called sphincture
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RomeStar
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Posted - 2013.07.25 17:00:00 -
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So nobody has a problem if they did this cool. So now players can refrence this post when CCP does do this and say see the players have no problem with skill time increases.
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Fairren
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
46
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Posted - 2013.07.25 17:02:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Can someone tell me what sparked all the late butthurt about a skill change that happened a while ago now?
Anyone?
stupidity |
De'Veldrin
Norse'Storm Battle Group
Circle-Of-Two
1790
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Posted - 2013.07.25 17:04:00 -
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OP,
You were dumb - just like your alt in the other thread.
No one cares that you were dumb, least of all those of us who were not dumb. Please stop being dumb on our time and refrain from making more poorly disguised whine/troll thread on this topic.
Failure to comply may result in sanctions, such as ridiculous trolling and mocking.
Thank you.
All the people who think know you're an idiot.
GÇ£SandboxGÇ¥ does not mean that you will succeed at anything you attempt; it means you can attempt anything you want to succeed at. One of the largest obstacles in the way of your success is other players. |
SB Rico
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Posted - 2013.07.25 17:05:00 -
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Matari Akiga wrote:Actually with a couple of exceptions, training is quicker now.
It used to be that you had to train the 6 learning skills up to level 5 in order to get to your full training speed without implants,
That alone would require several years to pay off the training time, so what did CCP do?
They removed the learning skills and applied the full bonus you would have got from training them to level 5 to every character so now you train faster.
That combined with the new arrangement of skills allows you in nearly all cases to get into a ship and be able to use it faster than before or at least in the same time.
The skill system offers constant progression if CCP were to add to much additional time to skills people would stop playing because we have goals and if we don't meet them people get bored and leave.
Sorry for my English.
Those ebil barstewards also then allowed you to annually remap your attributes and gave bonus remaps to noobs making the training queue quicker. God they are heartless
Holy f*** I may have just supported CCP
I must now go look for the 4 horsemen in the sky, the time of miracles is at hand...
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Killing me should be for free. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
4394
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Posted - 2013.07.25 17:07:00 -
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RomeStar wrote:So nobody has a problem if they did this cool. So now players can refrence this post when CCP does do this and say see the players have no problem with skill time increases.
We'll probably start caring when this begins to happen outside of your fevered imagination.
To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors.
If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Verunae Caseti
Viziam
Amarr Empire
157
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Posted - 2013.07.25 17:07:00 -
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RomeStar wrote:So nobody has a problem if they did this cool. So now players can refrence this post when CCP does do this and say see the players have no problem with skill time increases.
Trust me, Q-ball, the only people who are going to reference this post will be those looking to put together some kind of "Worst Posts Ever" anthology.
Seriously, you're thick. Increasing training time has no effect on revenue. People need to keep paying to play no matter how long it takes them to train. |
SB Rico
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Posted - 2013.07.25 17:10:00 -
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Verunae Caseti wrote:RomeStar wrote:So nobody has a problem if they did this cool. So now players can refrence this post when CCP does do this and say see the players have no problem with skill time increases. Trust me, Q-ball, the only people who are going to reference this post will be those looking to put together some kind of "Worst Posts Ever" anthology. Seriously, you're thick. Increasing training time has no effect on revenue. People need to keep paying to play no matter how long it takes them to train.
When I finish training all the skills, I will be allowed to play for free right?
Scammers are currently selling killrights on this toon for up to 5mil, if you have paid for this service demand your money back at once.
Killing me should be for free. |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1996
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Posted - 2013.07.25 17:11:00 -
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:: dons foil hat ::
To the OP:
What, the current troll-fest about the BC & Dessy changes wasn't enough tinfoil-hattery for you? I judge this to be a poorly-disguised attempt to get past the 'no multiple threads' rule.
Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
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RomeStar
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Posted - 2013.07.25 17:17:00 -
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Damn look at all the hate I love these forums 
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SmokinDank
Horizon Research Group
38
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Posted - 2013.07.25 17:17:00 -
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OP, it's not so much we don't care that CCP would do this, it's that we think you're crazy for thinking they would.
Does that make sense? |
MacKael
Perkone
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.25 17:28:00 -
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WHO CARES |
Verunae Caseti
Viziam
Amarr Empire
158
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Posted - 2013.07.25 17:28:00 -
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RomeStar wrote:Damn look at all the hate I love these forums
What you're witnessing is not hate. People pointing out stupidity is not "hate." It's just pointing out stupidity.
Like, if you're walking down the street with your friend and you see someone trying to ride a bicycle while sitting on the seat backwards, wearing a blindfold and masturbating and you say "Look at that idiot!" you don't actually hate him, right? It's just fascinating so you point it out. That's all. |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1997
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Posted - 2013.07.25 17:31:00 -
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Verunae Caseti wrote:
Like, if you're walking down the street with your friend and you see someone trying to ride a bicycle while sitting on the seat backwards, wearing a blindfold and masturbating and you say "Look at that idiot!" you don't actually hate him, right? It's just fascinating so you point it out. That's all.
Yet another truly astonishing mental image. EVE-O never fails to deliver. 
Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
4394
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Posted - 2013.07.25 17:33:00 -
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SB Rico wrote:Verunae Caseti wrote:RomeStar wrote:So nobody has a problem if they did this cool. So now players can refrence this post when CCP does do this and say see the players have no problem with skill time increases. Trust me, Q-ball, the only people who are going to reference this post will be those looking to put together some kind of "Worst Posts Ever" anthology. Seriously, you're thick. Increasing training time has no effect on revenue. People need to keep paying to play no matter how long it takes them to train. When I finish training all the skills, I will be allowed to play for free right?
Sure. Don't forget to let us all know when that happens, okay? 
To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors.
If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific
Initiative Mercenaries
2471
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Posted - 2013.07.25 17:35:00 -
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Verunae Caseti wrote:RomeStar wrote:Damn look at all the hate I love these forums What you're witnessing is not hate. People pointing out stupidity is not "hate." It's just pointing out stupidity. Like, if you're walking down the street with your friend and you see someone trying to ride a bicycle while sitting on the seat backwards, wearing a blindfold and masturbating and you say "Look at that idiot!" you don't actually hate him, right? It's just fascinating so you point it out. That's all.
Well, if the bike rider can pull it off (pun intended), I'd be impressed .
But you're totally right. Lots of people get mad at the world when they say something dumb and other people point it out to them.
I have an ex-in law that was like that. He would engage in some embarrassing behavior in public (like saying impolite things in public, or being to loud because he was fairly oblivious to how loud his voice is to others). If you said nothing, he'd continue to embarrass himself and everyone with him. If you said something about it, even in the most caring and gentle ways, he blew up at you and took it as a grave personal insult.
When my sister divorced him the whole family came together for a party lol.
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War Kitten
Panda McLegion
2439
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Posted - 2013.07.25 17:40:00 -
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RomeStar wrote:Damn look at all the hate I love these forums
We don't hate you.
We just love you in a mocking sort of way.
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |
Jorden Ishonen
Kinetic Technologies
96
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Posted - 2013.07.25 17:50:00 -
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Verunae Caseti wrote:Cause CCP benefits if it takes you longer train, right?
Someone needs to invent something like Captcha, except a system that can detect if you have your head up your ass before you can post.
Are you trying to kill the forums?
Because that's not a bad idea.
War Kitten wrote:RomeStar wrote:Damn look at all the hate I love these forums We don't hate you. We just love you in a mocking sort of way.
It's like the dog growling at it's own leg because it's touching it's bone. We're fond of you, but we still like to laugh at you. |
RomeStar
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Posted - 2013.07.25 18:24:00 -
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Ahhh I love all you too you forum warriors.
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