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DSpite Culhach
Corp 54
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2013.07.27 14:31:00 -
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This is just a "what if" type question, not a suggestion, etc etc.
If a company that makes mining ships was suffering a lot of losses from "piracy" type activity, they would try and find optimal ways to make their ships harder to attack.
Rather then what CCP did with increasing the tanks, in order to give them time to warp out, would it not have made more sense to give them a utility high and say, remove a mid slot, to mount a cloak into?
There's already a couple of mining ships with multiple highs, does anyone play hide and seek with them already?
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Battle BV Master
Executor BV
Sovereign Infinity
19
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Posted - 2013.07.27 21:02:00 -
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What does this add? You cant mine and be cloaked.
Plus cloaky ships **** people off so they'd stay in your system longer not shorter. Making a firm move by docking up is a better move then to cloak.
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Whitehound
1684
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Posted - 2013.07.27 21:27:00 -
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You are more or less implying that an entire mining fleet should be able to cloak. EVE is however an MMO and CCP will want for pilots to organize themselves and support each other with different ships having different roles etc., and not to have entire fleets where every player only cloaks.
That said, the Venture has got a utility high-slot and can fit a cloak, which makes it the only mining ship to support it.
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Donbe Scurred
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
66
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Posted - 2013.07.27 21:44:00 -
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They increased the tanks to make them harder to gank, not give you more time to warp out. If you are pointed, you're pointed all the hitpoints in the world won't let you warp out.
You can't do anything while cloaked but move very slowly, so this would not help.
Please get a better understanding of the mechanics before you throw out what ifs.
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IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
136
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Posted - 2013.07.27 22:16:00 -
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T2 Recon Exhumer FTW
Yes it'll never happen but it would be lots of fun! |
Tsukino Stareine
The Red Circle Inc.
605
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Posted - 2013.07.27 22:27:00 -
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You could do it if you were regularly mining in hostile space
but then one would ask the question: would you make more money mining less valuable minerals in regular space or in hostile space where you are disrupted so much? |
Rain6637
Team Evil
1613
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Posted - 2013.07.27 22:45:00 -
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i vote for a mining subsystem on T3 cruisers.
done.
a gang boosting, probing, covops cloaky, interdiction nullified T3 that has a mining/cargo bonused Engineering subsystem.
u mad?
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Shereza
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
168
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Posted - 2013.07.27 23:25:00 -
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Cloaking mining ships? Great idea.
[Venture, Cloaky]
Mining Laser Upgrade II
1MN Afterburner II
Small Shield Booster II
Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Miner II
Miner II
Improved Cloaking Device II
Small Processor Overclocking Unit I
Small Processor Overclocking Unit I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I
[Covetor, Stealthy Ice]
Ice Harvester Upgrade II
Ice Harvester Upgrade II
Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Ice Harvester II
Ice Harvester II
Improved 'Guise' Cloaking Device II
Medium Ice Harvester Accelerator I
Medium Polycarbon Engine Housing I
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
^- Needs a 1% grid implant though. :-/
[Hulk, Hulk HIDE!]
Mining Laser Upgrade II
Damage Control II
Pithi B-Type Small Shield Booster
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Kinetic Deflection Field II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I
Improved Cloaking Device II
Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I
Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I
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DSpite Culhach
Corp 54
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
145
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Posted - 2013.07.28 01:27:00 -
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Donbe Scurred wrote:They increased the tanks to make them harder to gank, not give you more time to warp out. If you are pointed, you're pointed all the hitpoints in the world won't let you warp out.
You can't do anything while cloaked but move very slowly, so this would not help.
Please get a better understanding of the mechanics before you throw out what ifs.
My understanding of the mechanics are enough to understand that someone can be mining 10km plus off anything stopping a cloak from working, and when a known hostile enter local, can go invisible, instead of having to fly off, dock up and fly back. Especially in systems with no stations or few exits. I'm not just talking about hisec.
If your simply waiting for someone to leave a system before you resume mining, avoiding all the flight time to-from stations would seem more optimal. You uncloak and continue.
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Tobias Hareka
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
44
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Posted - 2013.07.28 08:24:00 -
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This is THE wrong way to fit BlOps so never do it. Just for lulz:
[Redeemer, Cloaky Miner]
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Co-Processor II
Co-Processor II
Prototype 100MN Microwarpdrive I
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Modulated Deep Core Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Modulated Deep Core Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Modulated Deep Core Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Modulated Deep Core Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Modulated Deep Core Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Modulated Deep Core Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Covert Jump Portal Generator I
Improved Cloaking Device II
Large Processor Overclocking Unit I
Large Core Defense Field Extender I |
Whitehound
1688
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Posted - 2013.07.28 10:37:00 -
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Tobias Hareka wrote:This is THE wrong way to fit BlOps so never do it. Just for lulz:
[Redeemer, Cloaky Miner]
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Now all it needs is a covert exhumer for covert hot drop mining action.
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Feanira Darr
Perkone
Caldari State
19
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Posted - 2013.07.29 00:02:00 -
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you'd see blops bridges beaming miners out of hs
and you know, some much-needed blops hs relevance outside of jita undock
i think miners deserve this, and not only would they enjoy the isk sink, they would embrace the risk for the tradeoff of getting to use 1337 toys--and more SP sinks added to an otherwise stagnant skill tree.
T3 mining subsystem. it's only fair. (and i thought it was supposed to be a generalist ship class)
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Tobias Hareka
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
47
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Posted - 2013.07.29 08:06:00 -
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Feanira Darr wrote:you'd see blops bridges beaming miners out of hs
Miners jump from hisec to low/null -> no more targets for "pvpers" -> hisec "pvpers" rage/whine -> a lot of tears. |
Rain6637
Team Evil
1615
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Posted - 2013.07.29 23:27:00 -
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bumping covops miners
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