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Nyphur
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Posted - 2005.12.17 03:59:00 -
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Enemies are scaled more consistently now. Low sec has more cruisers and less frigs, 0.0 has mre bs and less cruisers and frigs etc. I like it.
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2005.12.17 04:17:00 -
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Originally by: Rebell
Originally by: Nyphur Enemies are scaled more consistently now. Low sec has more cruisers and less frigs, 0.0 has mre bs and less cruisers and frigs etc. I like it.
Battleships have become better npc farmers as a result because their big guns will not have to bother with smaller ships anymore.
Killing is fast, but it still takes time to pick up loot, so I think the money/time is still quite balanced.
Tractor beam.
Hmm.. Perhaps this is unbalanced. If it is, they'll have a look at it and fix it so enjoy it while it lasts, I guess.
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2005.12.17 04:19:00 -
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Originally by: Dao 2 20km aint to much but it helps def :|
Sure helps me a ton ^^;. Been running missions, myself.
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2005.12.17 04:27:00 -
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Originally by: Dao 2
Originally by: Nyphur
Originally by: Dao 2 20km aint to much but it helps def :|
Sure helps me a ton ^^;. Been running missions, myself.
missions i dont do so dunno bout there :S ;p
Well they're faster. And complexes are so much easlier to loot now. It's great.
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2005.12.17 05:20:00 -
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Originally by: Dao 2
Originally by: aeti any stuff that makes 0.0 better is good
then makes isk worthless ;p?
Definitely needs looked at. We all remember what happened when players could make 20-50mil/hour doing level 4 missions, don't we? They nerfed them because they were upsetting the economy. If the same has been done here, it needs a look.
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2005.12.17 05:30:00 -
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Originally by: Dak Hakin Its real easy for people flying HACs and battleships to say "I'm making too much money!11!1 this suxors!". Not all of us have the capabilities to npc in 0.0 with a 1million ISK bounty per rat. I currently have less than 2 million in my wallet and I would kind of like to make some more, so that I can buy more skills etc.
Please dont nerf npc bounties or loot.
I think you're missing the point. They're saying the highest end rats in 0.0 will net you more ISK than mining there. You wouldn't be affected by a nerf to that at all if you don't go to 0.0.
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2005.12.17 06:28:00 -
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Originally by: Dao 2 Edited by: Dao 2 on 17/12/2005 06:25:45 i get anywhere between 2-4 mil avg on a spawn, more if its dread or officer (havent run into one of those since patch)
i can kill a spawn in like 5 min
edit: and tank mining isnt much of an option when ur jammed or nossed or theres 3 bses shootin u ;p
You've obviously never mined in a deimos! The ultime sacriligle to a lovely battle vessel. Mining.
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2005.12.18 14:12:00 -
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Originally by: McArthur BR I don't really think that NPCing is more profitable then mining... Mining crokite, i make +-39mil per hour, including the corp taxes and selling zyd for 3500 (and donating the nocx)
That's the thing, they're comparing low end mining to high end npcing. You can make a lot NPCing now but only in the same places you can make a lot mining.
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2005.12.18 15:46:00 -
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Edited by: Nyphur on 18/12/2005 15:54:27
Originally by: Unknown Subject comments? my comment to you is stfu in future because the devs will now get the nerf bat out. its because of big mouthed A-holes like you at the good things in games get removed. fking whiners...
Bigger isn't nececarilly better. Level 4 mission rewards were bigger. They were ruining the game and were rebalanced. If this does the same (which it appears not to, after some investigateion, since you can mine and make more), it would be broken and need rebalanced. I'm curious. If you found an exploit, would you petition it or are you the type of player who would exploit it and ***** when it gets fixed?
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2005.12.19 01:51:00 -
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Been NPCing for a while out in 0.0. It's good money but I can make the same mining, if not more.
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2005.12.19 02:03:00 -
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Originally by: Dao 2
Originally by: Nyphur Been NPCing for a while out in 0.0. It's good money but I can make the same mining, if not more.
aye was the same for me before, cept if i hit an office or commander. but now that RMR is out i completely blow away mining. i actually prefer mining too :(
Maybe you're not mining properly. Large barge, 3 stripminers with max skills and 5 mining drone IIs? Because that'd be roughly equivalent to the skill and price range of a ship you'd need to solo NPC in 0.0. A HAC or battelship fitted with T2 gear and the best skills. I'm using an ishtar with maxed drones skills (except the new ones, only got those to level 3 so far).
I know with that kind of mining kit I always got more mining than I am NPCing. 15-30mil/hour mining is the norm. I can't make that NPCing currently and I have tried. I get close but just shy of the amount I can make mining.
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2005.12.19 02:20:00 -
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Originally by: Dao 2 edit: like i said id be making bout 100mil a day tops, usually not on weekdays. i can make that in like 3 1/2 hours now just off the bounties :|
You're forgetting the mining mods that just came in, you can mine more now. And you're saying you get 30mil/hour in bounties npcing? Where are you doing this?
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2005.12.19 02:58:00 -
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Originally by: Dao 2
Originally by: Nyphur
Originally by: Dao 2 edit: like i said id be making bout 100mil a day tops, usually not on weekdays. i can make that in like 3 1/2 hours now just off the bounties :|
You're forgetting the mining mods that just came in, you can mine more now. And you're saying you get 30mil/hour in bounties npcing? Where are you doing this?
-1.0 system ;p
A-ha, then you need to compare it to the absolute best mining. Morphite or the best arkonor or something. I get 30m/hour doing that. If you make 20m/hour NPCing, it's starting to get fair.
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2005.12.19 03:22:00 -
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Originally by: Dao 2
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Also, how much are you making around 30 mins of NPCing?
mostly around 10-15 mil ;p maybe u got a crappy area to npc in :S dunno how u got 1/4th as much before..... i got just as much
That's with the best NPCing in the game. And that amount is perfectly in line with the money made with the best mining in the game.
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