I would like an option to be able to un-inject skills that you haven't trained or delete skills you have trained altogether. I wasn't always a bitter vet and back when I was a noob I trained everything I could regardless of how useful it was since i didn't know the game. 70million sp later I know this game enough that I'll never go back to mining. I want to remove those 20million sp's so that:

1. My skill sheet is less cluttered and looks nicer cause I'm anal like that.
2. My clone would cost much cheaper (I like my thrashers and it blows when your EMPTY pod is worth twice as much as the ship your flying)
3. I could un-inject all those stupid skills i decided to inject on my alts and will never train. They're just cluttering my skill sheet up and making my characters look less attractive if I ever decide to sell.

Down to the meat of the idea. There would be an option when you right click a skill on in your character sheet/skill que to delete it. If its level 0 and not trained at all you can un-inject it. Both these options are destructive you get nothing back! Obviously there would be a 'Are you sure you wanna do this?' box thats pops up and explains what will happen.

-You will not receive unallocated skill points to redistribute.
-You will not get back the skill book if you un-inject.

Maybe theres a way to do this through petition idk I'll check. Not sure how many people are crazy like me and would delete chunks of there hard earned SP

Discuss!

completely useless idea posing as yet another "i want my skill points back" thread

But in most cased, you have 'used' and benefited from those skills at some point.

Sorry, But I vote no.

That's just going to end with millions of petitions "omg I accidentally deleted ....".

I think millions is a little strong. I'm sure CCP don't get many petitions to un-bio characters. I think this would work in exactly the same way.


I'm on the fence about this. I don't really get the argument for having used the skills in the past...

Yes, you bought the skill book(s).
Yes, you used the skill(s) to achieve something you wanted to do.
Yes, you might have no need/wish to ever use those skills again.

I'd look upon this as a "forget" command. People do forget stuff after all.


I'm on the fence though as I'm unsure on the impact this would have. From what I've seen, EVE needs more ISK sinks, and clones (as well as their implants), seem to be the only consistent sinks in the game.


For the EVE OCD that everyone seems to suffer from a smidge (I'm also guilty of this to some extent), a very simple "show/hide" system would be great. It already exists for maxed skills, but players aren't able to show/hide individual skills at will.

Shouldn't be too difficult/time consuming to implement. An extra field in the database table for a boolean value. When populating the listbox, check to see if that fields value equates to TRUE or FALSE. Simple enough.


TL;DR:
+1 for a show/hide on individual skills at a players discretion.
+/-1 for forgetting skills.

I'm actually fine with skill removal, but believe you should have to un-train the skill to remove it. You would also not gain the SP back, or the skill book.

Not only does this route add some protection from the OMG I deleted a skill brigade, but also adds another consequence to your action.

I would allow the untraining to happen faster, since it is normally possible to destroy much faster than it is to create.

The technological equivalent of a very specific lobotomy, which still takes time in order to be precise and not leave you drooling and unable to function.

It does have value, under the right conditions.

If you want to save money on med clones, and you can delete unwanted skills enough to change to a less expensive class, that has value.

CCP has already nerf clones by 30%. CCP have even stated that they do not like how the cost of clones work. It would not surprise me if the cost goes away in the near future.

Even if they did want to remove skills just to get a lower clone cost, the price of a PLEX (565 mil atm) would more than make up for whole lot of clone updates.

The OP nor the thread author in this thread mentions plex, just you.

This is the way I see this working for the good of everyone.

If it costs a PLEX to remove unwanted/unused skills then CCP benefits & the person with the OCD benefits.

What I am suggesting is the same thing CCP does already for PLEX for Re-sculpt.

In the PLEX for Re-sculpt both CCP & the person with OCD benefits.

Both of these are just vanity issues with no advantage to them. Just for those characters that want a clean & focused skill sheet, same as they want a better looking character.

This. Making changes for purely cosmetics is a waste of dev time when it does nothing to further actual gameplay. Something simple as "Hide Skill From Character Sheet" would be much more appropriate.

Wanting to clean up your skill sheet or unwanted/unused skills is only a vanity issue. There is no gain or advantage by doing it.

As such, it should be treated like a vanity issue, like CCP treats Re-sculpting. CCP charges you a PLEX to Re-sculpt.

Why, because it is a vanity issue & they can charge you for doing it.

CCP should do the same thing with "PLEX for Removal of Unwanted/Unused Skills".

You do not get skill points or cost of skill books back.

Make the people that want to do this cost them a PLEX.


Other Ideas,

I do not like the idea of un-training the skills. If you were to spend time to un-train a skill then you should get the skill points back.

I do not think reallocation of skill points works either. People can train FOTM without any drawbacks.

I think millions is a little strong. I'm sure CCP don't get many petitions to un-bio characters. I think this would work in exactly the same way.


I'm on the fence about this. I don't really get the argument for having used the skills in the past...

Yes, you bought the skill book(s).
Yes, you used the skill(s) to achieve something you wanted to do.
Yes, you might have no need/wish to ever use those skills again.

I'd look upon this as a "forget" command. People do forget stuff after all.


I'm on the fence though as I'm unsure on the impact this would have. From what I've seen, EVE needs more ISK sinks, and clones (as well as their implants), seem to be the only consistent sinks in the game.


For the EVE OCD that everyone seems to suffer from a smidge (I'm also guilty of this to some extent), a very simple "show/hide" system would be great. It already exists for maxed skills, but players aren't able to show/hide individual skills at will.

Shouldn't be too difficult/time consuming to implement. An extra field in the database table for a boolean value. When populating the listbox, check to see if that fields value equates to TRUE or FALSE. Simple enough.


TL;DR:
+1 for a show/hide on individual skills at a players discretion.
+/-1 for forgetting skills.

GM just replied to my petition about this and said they are unable to remove skills

FYI: When a developer says to you they are unable to do something, 9/10 what they meant was, they won't.

My response:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3088256#post3088256



The search function is kind of nice if you can figure out how to use it.

'hide skill button' + stuff

I don't think I'll ever understand why people would pay less for a character that has more (skills) than just what they're looking for even when it also has exactly what they want.

because people are dumb