But whelp took me by surprise. Seriously? Sacrifice a whole fleet for a win? That is what they call a pyrrhic victory. That's no victory at all.

"TIDI" (or TlDl ("L" instead of 'i')). What is that?

"Whelping." What is that?

I did not find these words in the glossary. I've seen them used a lot but I couldn't get the inference.

Thanks a lot. I appreciate your replies. I didn't know what answers I was gonna get, but even so, I was surprised by the answers. I thought EVE could handle a crap ton of players at once..... Ah, yes. It can with TiDi. It makes sense.

But whelp took me by surprise. Seriously? Sacrifice a whole fleet for a win? That is what they call a pyrrhic victory. That's no victory at all.

Actually, it's a bit more sophisticated, I think; the old problem with lag was that the server ran time normally, but input lag was so bad that people ended up getting slaughtered in between the time they sent a command and the time the command was received and acted upon. TiDi basically stretches out combat so that input lag doesn't make it impossible to react to a situation.

when your soldiers are not imortal and using insured equipment sure, but thats not the case here.

My first welpfleet was a group of T1 frigates with cheap fits going on a trip through nullsec. We have destroyed battlecruisers and even some T2 cruisers; the total amount of ISK we've destroyed far exceeded the price of our ships.

A ship is a tool, it's not your character, it's not your soul. You are supposed to use it, and if that means you are going to lose it while achieving your goal, then why not? You can buy a new one very easily.

It's the same as suicide ganking. Grab a catalyst, fit it with as cheap stuff as possible and few rounds of faction ammo, go to a belt, attack and destroy a mining barge, watch CONCORD comes and destroys your ship, enjoy poor miner's tears - you have just destroyed a ship worth of several times of your loss.

The only way how to not lose a ship at all is to never undock...

But whelp took me by surprise. Seriously? Sacrifice a whole fleet for a win? That is what they call a pyrrhic victory. That's no victory at all.

TIDI: Basically lag being turned into a feature!

... Eve being Eve and actually a lot less civilized than today).

My first welpfleet was a group of T1 frigates with cheap fits going on a trip through nullsec. We have destroyed battlecruisers and even some T2 cruisers; the total amount of ISK we've destroyed far exceeded the price of our ships.

A ship is a tool, it's not your character, it's not your soul. You are supposed to use it, and if that means you are going to lose it while achieving your goal, then why not? You can buy a new one very easily.

It's the same as suicide ganking. Grab a catalyst, fit it with as cheap stuff as possible and few rounds of faction ammo, go to a belt, attack and destroy a mining barge, watch CONCORD comes and destroys your ship, enjoy poor miner's tears - you have just destroyed a ship worth of several times of your loss.

The only way how to not lose a ship at all is to never undock...

O.K. What about this phrase.

"... their "meta game"... What is "meta game"?

Thanks a lot. I appreciate your replies. I didn't know what answers I was gonna get, but even so, I was surprised by the answers. I thought EVE could handle a crap ton of players at once..... Ah, yes. It can with TiDi. It makes sense.

But whelp took me by surprise. Seriously? Sacrifice a whole fleet for a win? That is what they call a pyrrhic victory. That's no victory at all.

Meta game: Anything that happens that's not directly blowing up spaceships. Basically. Covers politics and skulduggery (A word I don't get to use enough)



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metagaming

TIDI: Basically lag being turned into a feature!

Though in all fairness, it-¦s one of the better ideas CCP has come up with.
People will nowadays complain about half an hour of warping and what-not but there were once reports of whole fleets jumping into a system, blackscreening for 30 minutes and finally loading into their clone station.... (the lagging of old aways favored the defender of a starsystem and of course that got abused as well, Eve being Eve and actually a lot less civilized than today).

It really is a server stress management tool. The purpose isn't to avoid getting into situations where the server won't encounter issues. It's to admit the reality, that there will be issues and therefore there needs to be a proper thought out management of the situation when issues arise, instead of just leaving things to blind luck and just hoping for the best. It means while the experience isn't going to be optimal, you can still ensure the servers can allow the fight to at least happen in a fair and predictable manner.

As noted without TiDi when the servers were overstressed everything turned to **** and the simulation couldn't be run properly. That meant random effects spread unevenly to people affected, that included mass black screens, modules not responding, server requests run out of sequense(like titan guns and frigate guns having the same rate-of-fire in practice), server ignoring orders and the server finally crashing entirely. In practical terms this is much worse then then a simple slowed down simulation. The slowing down is frustrating because things take more time, but it's nothing compared to the frustration and rage of dieing or being unable to fight at all, because of unpredictable behavior or because control was taken away from you.

Hmmm.... I read somewhere, a few weeks back, that CCP was gonna do hardware upgrades to their servers. Changing mechanical HHDs for SSDs, for example. Perhaps that will help mitigate some of these problems and make TiDi more tolerable, perhaps even make it unnoticeable?