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Xequecal
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.07.29 21:48:00 -
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Cerberus looks really ridiculous to me, it has enough PG now to fit 6 launchers, MWD, and an XLASB with just two ACR I rigs. You can then get 750 DPS with 3 BCU and a damage control in the lows, and then you can decide if you want web and ECCM in your mids or more tank. XLASB and two invulns is an 1800 DPS Kin/Therm tank, great for laughing in the face of any Talos-heavy gang. |
Xequecal
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
9
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Posted - 2013.07.29 23:08:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Seriously, you view 25% more range (with the same flight time) for your high damage short range weapons system as a useless bonus?
Now, I'll agree I'd prefer perhaps a bonus that allowed them to apply that damage better... especially since a range bonus would be of more benefit to a faster hull.... but I don't find that bonus to be useless. Sometimes getting in range with a Sac can be problematic.
Well, it depends. Do your opponents have OGB with skirmish links? If yes, then yes the range bonus is useless, because anything BC size and down not webbed and/or scrammed will take next to no damage from your HAMs anyway.
HAMs are crippled by OGB more than any other weapon system due to the 4.8 damage reduction factor that results in an almost 1:1 ratio between decrease in sig and a decrease in damage, as well as an almost 1:1 ratio between an increase in speed and a decrease in damage.
Basically, against anything BC size and down, if its MWD is running and it's not webbed, skirmish links reduce HAM DPS by 50%. Yes, it's that bad. |
Xequecal
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
10
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Posted - 2013.08.01 12:10:00 -
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Hannott Thanos wrote:Tsubutai wrote:Just to further illustrate the vaga's PG issues, this doesn't fit:
*FITTING*
Mid-tier guns, class-appropriate tank, no oversized modules, and you're still over on grid without a PG implant. By "class appropriate", you mean 40k buffer with a 770 dps burst tank and a medium neut to spare? Show me which other hacs can do that please.
Uh, try the new Cerberus:
3x BCS II
Reactor Control Unit II
Experimental 10MN MWD
XLASB
Invuln II
Domination EM Ward Amplifier
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
6x HAML II
Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I
Ok, it doesn't have a neut, but it does over double the DPS at a greater range with a much better tank. It does require maxed fitting skills, including launcher rigging V and AWU V (1265/1265 PG exactly) but no blinging other than the 25m faction ward amplifier. If you want to use Genolution augs and a 4% CPU implant you can drop the overclocking unit for an explosion radius rig to help your DPS even more. |
Xequecal
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
28
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Posted - 2013.08.06 12:08:00 -
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Cassius Invictus wrote:It's is a missile ship why the hell it would need a cap injector? Let me tell u this: I fly in WH mostly in tech 3 ships and kill mostly tech 3 ships. In theory legion and proteus are comparable. Yet the proteus is much more successful in wh fights. Why? Because of the slot layout. It can have 6/3/7, while a legion can only have 6/4/6. It means more armour or/and more tank. Sacrilege is an armour, dps ship. It needs armour (low), dps (low). It doesnGÇÖt need utility hi (I have specialized ships for that) nor does it need the medium slot.
Actually, it's because WH fights have a tendency to be fought at very close ranges, namely within 5km of a WH so you can GTFO whenever you want, warping to zero on a ratter, etc. That makes blasters exceptional and means the long range of pulse lasers isn't worth much. Also, Proteus cloaky subsystem is actually good, unlike Legion. |
Xequecal
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
28
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Posted - 2013.08.06 17:12:00 -
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W0lf Crendraven wrote:That overbuffs the deimos, no ship should be able to easily tank 900dps before heat without links nor implants.
Heh, the new RLM Cerb tanks double that. |
Xequecal
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.08.06 17:29:00 -
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Diesel47 wrote:Xequecal wrote:W0lf Crendraven wrote:That overbuffs the deimos, no ship should be able to easily tank 900dps before heat without links nor implants. Heh, the new RLM Cerb tanks double that. deimos does triple the dps.
I don't think the deimos does 1500 DPS. Certainly not from 100km like the Cerb. |
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