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BlackDog Rackh'am
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Posted - 2005.12.18 00:55:00 -
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Originally by: Kaleeb Gl [M.] and Shnra was great flying with you all.
I dont think this will have much effect on ATUK's war up north as its only really been ATUK/Delta for several weeks now, they seem to be getting lots of kills and the north dont seem to be able to dislodge them. Although as ATUK dont seem to want to take any territory i`m not sure how much they can hurt the northern allies in the longterm.
I think i'll second that. Pretty sensible and accurate imo. From my point of view,it's gotten to the point that the north needs to do the "boring stuff" to win the war.
That means taking down the atuk pos,blockading the pipe to mess with their reinforcements,camp them with an overwhelming force on an almost 24/7 basis and so on,give them a couple of fleet fights to deplete their ship supply regardless of kill/loss ratio etc.
It's no big secret that once an enemy is forced into guerilla mode it's actually quite hard to deal with. I'm not trying to discredit Atuk,since their tactics are pretty reasonable and i would do the same if i were in their shoes.
What kills alliances is a combination of low morale and a lack of fun factor.
If atuk are still what they used to be in the past,of which i have no inside knowledge and can't pass judgement on their current abilities,then shinra and m.corp leaving will not have any significant impact on their morale. If on the other hand the case is different,then a combination of boredom and lack of direction might set in,which coupled with 2 of their allies leaving could produce some bad vibes.
With regards to their operations,since they were pretty much alone up north for most of the time this also has no effect.
That leaves the fun factor to deal with. Currently they might have some trouble resupplying,depending on the level of hostile activity,but they are getting a lot of easy kills against careless people and some bigger fights now and then (at least by the looks of it).
That brings us back to the point at hand. In order to dislodge atuk the northern allies will have to spend a lot of time camping gates and stations with a ridiculously overpowering force to stop the north being fun for them. I know if i could roam around and kill some BS's everyday, with a little NPC'ing on the side to make some isk i would not be sad at all. If however i had a 100 ship blob waiting for me to undock everytime i logged in,i would look for a new playground. No flames intended at all,just some possibilities and my personal estimates on them.
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Alex Krause
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Posted - 2005.12.18 00:56:00 -
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Originally by: Evil Edna lol @ the 5 crying
how long ago did you bail on F-E?
clown
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Chi Prime
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Posted - 2005.12.18 00:57:00 -
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Originally by: Skape Gote As for FE comments either positive or negative quite frankly you can stick them up your rectum
LOL, someone from ATUK recruit this guy, he's got great smacking potential.
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Velios
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Posted - 2005.12.18 01:00:00 -
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Heh he's OK, he just came in from the boozer feeling a bit rowdy, you should hear him in corp chat! |

Skape Gote
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Posted - 2005.12.18 01:13:00 -
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Edited by: Skape Gote on 18/12/2005 01:14:16
Originally by: Velios Heh he's OK, he just came in from the boozer feeling a bit rowdy, you should hear him in corp chat!
Just FYI I havent had a single drink all night and was just trying to show a bit of solidarity to our former alliance mates. Please clarify your facts before you make patronising comments about me.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Guess I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue...... |

Dao 2
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Posted - 2005.12.18 01:17:00 -
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Originally by: Skape Gote Edited by: Skape Gote on 18/12/2005 01:14:16
Originally by: Velios Heh he's OK, he just came in from the boozer feeling a bit rowdy, you should hear him in corp chat!
Just FYI I havent had a single drink all night and was just trying to show a bit of solidarity to our former alliance mates. Please clarify your facts before you make patronising comments about me.
drunk is better then sniffin ;p
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Kaleeb
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Posted - 2005.12.18 01:26:00 -
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Very accurate reply to my post blackdog and some good insight. At the mo I think the war is in no mans land so to speak, it will take some hard graft to win the war for either side.
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Darcuese
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Posted - 2005.12.18 01:33:00 -
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Originally by: Chi Prime
Originally by: Skape Gote As for FE comments either positive or negative quite frankly you can stick them up your rectum
LOL, someone from ATUK recruit this guy, he's got great smacking potential.
Prime...one thing only i dont like in this game. And its not of material nature (lossing money,ships or even stealing). Its a preaty diplomatic words that often hides true nature of human mind. Post that started this thread , although "wishes GL to Mcorp and Shinra", also mentioned surrendering. "surrender of corps that lately werent really involved in north and you know it, so they couldnt have losses of any kind to you guys. So spare me of your 2 faces post. Those corps choosed the other way to enjoy this game and i wish them good luck....good bunch of guys even though I dissagreed with some of theirs actions and choosed my own way (ex Mcorp) [ 2005.12.13 23:48:43 ]--Pilot from north:"we dont want to fight due to server crash and we want a fiar fight with you guys, just dont jump in" |

Alex Krause
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Posted - 2005.12.18 02:01:00 -
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Originally by: Chi Prime
Originally by: Skape Gote As for FE comments either positive or negative quite frankly you can stick them up your rectum
LOL, someone from ATUK recruit this guy, he's got great smacking potential.
Pretty rich coming from your corp of all places.
tards in glass houses shouldnt be throwing stones
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BlackDog Rackh'am
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Posted - 2005.12.18 02:03:00 -
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Originally by: Kaleeb Very accurate reply to my post blackdog and some good insight. At the mo I think the war is in no mans land so to speak, it will take some hard graft to win the war for either side.
Thanks for the reply mate.
Well,i think this little discussion goes to prove my little theory about flaming. Most of it generates from ppl being bored to write some long posts with a bunch of "ifs" and "maybes" thrown in for impartiality.
I could have just posted in a single paragraph with bad punctuation,some stereotype wording along a similar meaning,with a bit of an insult twist and it would be 100% pure flamebait.
Example: "Atuk are only ganking miners ohnoes,lol...they will run from our uber blobs and safespot in their pos when the going gets tough(though i won't admit i would do the same if i was behind enemy lines)Their friends don't help them and backstabb them,they are only a pirate infestation who docks and undocks all day long,unless its time for the 2pm ganksquad after school,lol...prepare to die"
P.S. I'm sure someone will miss the bolded,underlined part and the quote marks and flame me pretty soon. /me keeps the reading comprehension skillbooks handy for distribution 
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Darcuese
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Posted - 2005.12.18 02:05:00 -
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Originally by: Velios Heh he's OK, he just came in from the boozer feeling a bit rowdy, you should hear him in corp chat!
Tbh Vel...You used similar reply when i started that thread regarding avoiding fights in major systems in empire (when war started)-publicly, instead of pmd me. So that kind of behiaving is not something you should go after in future .
Never the less, really good guys there [ 2005.12.13 23:48:43 ]--Pilot from north:"we dont want to fight due to server crash and we want a fiar fight with you guys, just dont jump in" |

Evil Edna
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Posted - 2005.12.18 02:05:00 -
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Originally by: Alex Krause
Originally by: Evil Edna lol @ the 5 crying
how long ago did you bail on F-E?
clown
post with your main and i might even honour you with a proper response
kr0m killboard In game channel kr0m-public |

Alex Krause
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Posted - 2005.12.18 02:11:00 -
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Originally by: Evil Edna
Originally by: Alex Krause
Originally by: Evil Edna lol @ the 5 crying
how long ago did you bail on F-E?
clown
post with your main and i might even honour you with a proper response
doesnt matter
you're a hypocrit that bailed because you coulnt take the heat
stick you pirating noobs abd griefing mining corps where you might have a chance
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Velios
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Posted - 2005.12.18 02:13:00 -
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Keep posting Darc.... and I'm sure you'll be having another 'little chat' with your current CEO's |

Evil Edna
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Posted - 2005.12.18 02:17:00 -
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Originally by: Evil Edna
post with your main and i might even honour you with a proper response
still applys alex, or you scared to reveal your true identity for fear of what might happen?
kr0m killboard In game channel kr0m-public |

Nick Curso
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Posted - 2005.12.18 02:19:00 -
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Y do ppl post with alts ive smacked loads of ppl they never came to get me. :( i feel kinda unloved now.
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Evil Edna
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Posted - 2005.12.18 02:20:00 -
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prolly more likely afraid that their corp/alliance will *****slap them back down like the peons they are 
kr0m killboard In game channel kr0m-public |

Nick Curso
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Posted - 2005.12.18 02:23:00 -
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Evil tell dray i hate him. 
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The Clash
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Posted - 2005.12.18 02:28:00 -
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M.Corp even tho once a member of 5 or CA i never saw em as that , yes i bought some at them on my other account , whenever i see that name i think of an independant corp doing its own and giving an extremely good service .
Im long lost in all whats going on atm but i do wish you well , youve handled my request very well , yer reputation is very strong and about listening to what yer corp wants .....thats whats makes a corp going , let them flmae you , let them call names ...most of them dont even have a clue whats sometimes needed to keep a group together , yes even splitting from something .
M.Corp has a very good rep . They also have to take care of day to day buisness and members lets not forget about that .
GL M.Corp .
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You can suck my battleship.
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Darcuese
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Posted - 2005.12.18 02:29:00 -
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Edited by: Darcuese on 18/12/2005 02:37:19
Originally by: Velios Keep posting Darc.... and I'm sure you'll be having another 'little chat' with your current CEO's
As i said...I wish GL to Mcorp...bunch of good guys. But you know that i stood behind my words on forums and what i ment I spoke up...and havent hide it under polite words.
Mcorp have good directors...and if you not one of those that i admire , that doesnt mean you are not the person that will do good things for corp. I wont say why, cause you know why I dont admire you..I dont wanna gather public points.
Damn, I edited 3 times to keep my mouth shut [ 2005.12.13 23:48:43 ]--Pilot from north:"we dont want to fight due to server crash and we want a fiar fight with you guys, just dont jump in" |

ustasatomekk
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Posted - 2005.12.18 02:31:00 -
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/me loves darcuese:P
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Alex Krause
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Posted - 2005.12.18 02:38:00 -
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Originally by: Evil Edna
Originally by: Evil Edna
post with your main and i might even honour you with a proper response
still applys alex, or you scared to reveal your true identity for fear of what might happen?
Glad too see I was right.
Isnt it about time for KROM to disband again?
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HatePeace LoveWar
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Posted - 2005.12.18 02:50:00 -
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Good luck M. corp & Shinra. I'm very unhappy with the recent turn of events as i will no longer to be able to fly with many old friends, however i hope this isn't a permenant issue.
Anyways take care down south and give whoever crosses your path hell.
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Aegis Osiris
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Posted - 2005.12.18 03:44:00 -
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Edited by: Aegis Osiris on 18/12/2005 03:45:52 Darc,
Come on man, those are just the mails sent automatically.
Noone in any of the alliances, or just about anyone else who's head isn't deep in a hole, ALREADY KNEW those mails didnt mean MCorp and Shinra actually surrendered.
They were posted as the notification to us of what had happened (ie. M.Corp and Shinra choosing their own way), nothing more. Persh even stated earlier that noone from any of the northern alliances was claiming responsibility.
Leave well enough alone. No disrespect was implied from the OP. Whatever you INFER from it is your own problem, not ours.
Oh, and Skape Goat:
Quote: Someone needs a cranial lobotomy but hey lifes a *****.
As opposed to a Glutial lobotomy?
sorry, I really never smack, but that oxymoron struck me as funny 
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Dahin
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Posted - 2005.12.18 04:15:00 -
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omg, I just made hell freeze over.
I specifically remember saying something along the lines "when Shinra takes blue to us is going to be the day hell freezes over".
Omeega, we had blackdog adopted to you so you can sell him over on e-bay. Why do you persist on throwing these stuff on us 
Anyway, that M. Corp early vid was always my favorite one. The Shinra guys pulled the Immensea thing very nice and in style (they all seemed drunk XD).
I rewrote this line 100 times. I just can't provide more comments. I will proceed deeper down my bottle then...
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BlackDog Rackh'am
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Posted - 2005.12.18 04:37:00 -
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Originally by: Dahin omg, I just made hell freeze over.
I specifically remember saying something along the lines "when Shinra takes blue to us is going to be the day hell freezes over".
Omeega, we had blackdog adopted to you so you can sell him over on e-bay. Why do you persist on throwing these stuff on us 
Anyway, that M. Corp early vid was always my favorite one. The Shinra guys pulled the Immensea thing very nice and in style (they all seemed drunk XD).
I rewrote this line 100 times. I just can't provide more comments. I will proceed deeper down my bottle then...
I think hell didn't freeze over yet....
Scroll down for Mcorp announcement
Near the end of it,it states Mcorp has started hostilities against RA. I guess we'll be having some vodka in the south flying in RA gangs pretty soon 
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.12.18 05:17:00 -
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Originally by: BlackDog Rackh'am
Originally by: Dahin omg, I just made hell freeze over.
I specifically remember saying something along the lines "when Shinra takes blue to us is going to be the day hell freezes over".
Omeega, we had blackdog adopted to you so you can sell him over on e-bay. Why do you persist on throwing these stuff on us 
Anyway, that M. Corp early vid was always my favorite one. The Shinra guys pulled the Immensea thing very nice and in style (they all seemed drunk XD).
I rewrote this line 100 times. I just can't provide more comments. I will proceed deeper down my bottle then...
I think hell didn't freeze over yet....
Scroll down for Mcorp announcement
Near the end of it,it states Mcorp has started hostilities against RA. I guess we'll be having some vodka in the south flying in RA gangs pretty soon 
I heard M. Corp was joining PA. |

Monarch
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Posted - 2005.12.18 05:31:00 -
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Originally by: pershphanie
Originally by: BlackDog Rackh'am
Originally by: Dahin omg, I just made hell freeze over.
I specifically remember saying something along the lines "when Shinra takes blue to us is going to be the day hell freezes over".
Omeega, we had blackdog adopted to you so you can sell him over on e-bay. Why do you persist on throwing these stuff on us 
Anyway, that M. Corp early vid was always my favorite one. The Shinra guys pulled the Immensea thing very nice and in style (they all seemed drunk XD).
I rewrote this line 100 times. I just can't provide more comments. I will proceed deeper down my bottle then...
I think hell didn't freeze over yet....
Scroll down for Mcorp announcement
Near the end of it,it states Mcorp has started hostilities against RA. I guess we'll be having some vodka in the south flying in RA gangs pretty soon 
I heard M. Corp was joining PA.
Even your forum whorig sux lol, keep hauling POS fuel that's all you are good for now adays (and loosing battleships of course)
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.12.18 05:35:00 -
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Originally by: Monarch
Even your forum whorig sux lol, keep hauling POS fuel that's all you are good for now adays (and loosing battleships of course)
Was there any point to your post or was it random smack talk from out of no where? |

Mesuinu
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Posted - 2005.12.18 05:58:00 -
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Originally by: pershphanie
Originally by: BlackDog Rackh'am
Originally by: Dahin omg, I just made hell freeze over.
I specifically remember saying something along the lines "when Shinra takes blue to us is going to be the day hell freezes over".
Omeega, we had blackdog adopted to you so you can sell him over on e-bay. Why do you persist on throwing these stuff on us 
Anyway, that M. Corp early vid was always my favorite one. The Shinra guys pulled the Immensea thing very nice and in style (they all seemed drunk XD).
I rewrote this line 100 times. I just can't provide more comments. I will proceed deeper down my bottle then...
I think hell didn't freeze over yet....
Scroll down for Mcorp announcement
Near the end of it,it states Mcorp has started hostilities against RA. I guess we'll be having some vodka in the south flying in RA gangs pretty soon 
I heard M. Corp was joining PA.
Lies! We're joining NBSI 
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