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Misty Mattensson
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.07.29 23:16:00 -
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I was wondering if Eve will ever go free to play model like a lot of other rpgs are going today has this been discussed? |

Jim Era
6864
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Posted - 2013.07.29 23:21:00 -
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I hope not more free than it already is. |

Donbe Scurred
University of Caille Gallente Federation
71
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Posted - 2013.07.29 23:25:00 -
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Yes it has been discussed. This is not the only thread.
It seems FTP is a death sentence for an MMO.
They have a better model than Free to Play. It is FTP for those who have a solid understanding of how to make isk. When you can achieve making approximately 500m/month then you can purchase plex from the market to pay for your game time. So while it is free to you, technically someone else is paying for your game time. |

ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
2947
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Posted - 2013.07.29 23:38:00 -
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It has been brought up...
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=251413
... and it wasn't well received.
Part of the problem there are too many ways to exploit EVE using a pure F2P system without resorting to overly draconian restrictions (which can be bypassed)... most of which more or less involve isolating non-paying people from entire parts of the game (and vice versa). Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective. |

Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
819
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Posted - 2013.07.29 23:38:00 -
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Quote:It seems FTP is a death sentence for an MMO.
It is not by any stretch of the imagination a death sentence. However, not all games are designed to be F2P, and certain poorly-made MMOs tried to use F2P as a gimmick to retain a dying subscriber base.
EVE is an example of a game which is not designed to be F2P. EVE will never go F2P, and it would be absolute **** if it ever did. It has been discussed and rejected countless times. |
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ISD Flidais Asagiri
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2013.07.29 23:39:00 -
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Greetings
An interesting discussion, let me just move it to a more appropriate spot on the forums where it will get the attention it deserves. You may ask why Out of Pod Experience. I believe that this is a discussion of economic models not actually the game. Please continue.
On On ISD Flidais Asagiri Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Caleidascope
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
312
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Posted - 2013.07.29 23:52:00 -
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I play for free. Life is short and dinner time is chancy Eat dessert first! |

Hesod Adee
Turalyon Plus
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Posted - 2013.07.30 00:04:00 -
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Donbe Scurred wrote:It seems FTP is a death sentence for an MMO.
I don't see F2P as a death sentence. More of something to latch onto after the subscription model has failed that MMO.
I'll admit that I haven't been paying other MMOs much attention, but I can't think of any that were released in the last few years that are still on a subscription model. Those that started out as a subscription model have shifted either to F2P or buy to play.
Any new MMO trying the subscription model is going to have the same problem: Convincing people to pay the subscription when there are so many games without it. Existing MMOs can keep subscriptions for some time, as people have invested so much time in their characters to switch game, along with friends to play with.
Eve also has the fact that there is no other MMO like it. |

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
15222
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Posted - 2013.07.30 00:08:00 -
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What, and let the monocless peasants in?   "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á
Want to see what Surf is training or how little isk Surf has?-á http://eveboard.com/pilot/Surfin%27s_PlunderBunny |

Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
2001
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Posted - 2013.07.30 00:16:00 -
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ISD Flidais Asagiri wrote:Greetings
An interesting discussion, let me just move it to a more appropriate spot on the forums where it will get the attention it deserves. You may ask why Out of Pod Experience. I believe that this is a discussion of economic models not actually the game. Please continue.
On On
YOU SON OF A *****............... Out of Pod is getting In the Pod - Join in game channel IG OOPE |

Alice Saki
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
76003
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Posted - 2013.07.30 07:21:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:What, and let the monocless peasants in?  
   
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Graygor
1kB Realty 1kB Galactic
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Posted - 2013.07.30 07:40:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:What, and let the monocless peasants in?  
Theyll be wanting the vote next, mark my words. "I think you should buy a new Mayan calendar. Mine has muscle cars on it." --áKenneth O'Hara
"I dont think that can happen, you can see Gray has his invuln field on in his portrait." - Commisar Kate |

Kirjava
Lothian Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.07.30 08:20:00 -
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Graygor wrote:Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:What, and let the monocless peasants in?   Theyll be wanting the vote next, mark my words. *Monacle falls into his White Russian*
Egads what next? Next thing they'll be wanting to learn to read. *Chortles*
Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007. /S¦¦GùòGÇ+GÇ+GùòS¦¦\ Unban Saede! |

Graygor
1kB Realty 1kB Galactic
46450
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Posted - 2013.07.30 09:07:00 -
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Kirjava wrote:Graygor wrote:Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:What, and let the monocless peasants in?   Theyll be wanting the vote next, mark my words. *Monacle falls into his White Russian* Egads what next? Next thing they'll be wanting to learn to read. *Chortles*
Cant be having that. If they learn to read, they'll learn to complain that they have to read. "I think you should buy a new Mayan calendar. Mine has muscle cars on it." --áKenneth O'Hara
"I dont think that can happen, you can see Gray has his invuln field on in his portrait." - Commisar Kate |

Q 5
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
134
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Posted - 2013.07.30 13:35:00 -
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It's already free if you plex it. |

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
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Posted - 2013.07.30 17:26:00 -
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Statistics show that as a MMO goes F2P, the population of prepubescent teens rises as well as bragging about rampant fornication with other people's maternal parent. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |

Graygor
1kB Realty 1kB Galactic
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Posted - 2013.07.30 18:06:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Statistics show that as a MMO goes F2P, the population of prepubescent teens rises as well as bragging about rampant fornication with other people's maternal parent.
This would never happen in eve. When so many players have such attractive sisters and or cousins for other players to make suggestive comments about.... or even sister and cousin in the same person.  "I think you should buy a new Mayan calendar. Mine has muscle cars on it." --áKenneth O'Hara
"I dont think that can happen, you can see Gray has his invuln field on in his portrait." - Commisar Kate |

Mr Pragmatic
578
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Posted - 2013.07.30 19:24:00 -
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If eve went f2p I'd leave. F2p= sh!t Vote for me in the next CSM Elections. I will fight for the interest of all Hi-sec dwellers. No longer will you be cast aside and disparaged. |

Gravemind GER
Mane6 Industries
5
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Posted - 2013.07.30 19:26:00 -
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Sean Decker is basically the Director Spy who disbands CCP and trades the IP of eve to EA....
Yes, we will see F2P and the death of EVE soon. |

Tobias Hareka
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
56
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Posted - 2013.07.30 20:00:00 -
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Q 5 wrote:It's already free if you plex it.
No, it's not.
Someone bought that PLEX from CCP. PLEX is actually more expensive than normal subscription fee. |

Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
2005
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Posted - 2013.07.30 20:10:00 -
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Tobias Hareka wrote:Q 5 wrote:It's already free if you plex it. No, it's not. Someone bought that PLEX from CCP. PLEX is actually more expensive than normal subscription fee.
Someone who is not you. You pay isk for the plex, not cash, and as such makes it free for you. What the other guy paid is not your concern. Out of Pod is getting In the Pod - Join in game channel IG OOPE |

Hesod Adee
Turalyon Plus
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Posted - 2013.07.30 22:33:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Statistics show that as a MMO goes F2P, the population of prepubescent teens rises as well as bragging about rampant fornication with other people's maternal parent. I'm sure they will flee in terror when they find out what players do with other players corpses. |

Freakdevil
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:11:00 -
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Very unlikely. They would need to make a cash store. The chances of success is too uncertain give the vocal community and their mostly unified stance against F2P model. They could probably force one on us with incentives but it would be a big risk.
Its an interesting debate but not one I think CCP wants at this point. Give it a few years and this topic is likely to return if CCP deems it a valuable risk. |

Rain6637
Team Evil
1622
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Posted - 2013.08.03 19:31:00 -
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it has a F2P mode Rainf1337 on Twitch |

Brisco County
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
74
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Posted - 2013.08.06 01:25:00 -
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God I hope not. I can say without a shadow of a doubt that if Eve went F2P they would never see another kroner from me, and if anything that wasn't purely cosmetic was being sold in the store (ie, ships, resources, isk, skill points) I would quit. I have no desire to buy frilly panties for my barbie or buy my assets with real money. |

Fairren
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
50
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Posted - 2013.08.06 02:16:00 -
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Brisco County wrote:God I hope not. I can say without a shadow of a doubt that if Eve went F2P they would never see another kroner from me, and if anything that wasn't purely cosmetic was being sold in the store (ie, ships, resources, isk, skill points) I would quit. I have no desire to buy frilly panties for my barbie or buy my assets with real money. Would you buy frilly panties for yourself, though? |
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