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Quaird
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Posted - 2006.01.03 20:31:00 -
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 Originally by: Theta9
Yep people with some 500k+ reaserch points will in fact win the first few auctions but you fail to realise that once they win the auction they are out some off 500k reaserch points and back to 0.
its been stated its impossible to grind agents so a system were you bid using RP is in fact more fair than the current system. It helps out those that have high RP now and have been waiting for years for a bpo. While it gives those who dont have as much hope in that the person who won the bpo's is out for a while in future offerings. (I know someone that won a bpo once then another one from the same agent 2 weeks later for less than 3k RP's and they yet again in 2 weeks for another 3k from the same agent) at least this way you guarantee an equal spread.
Exactly. After the initial few rounds of auctions to use up the existing R&D points then everyone will be on a relatively equal playing field. Of course if you want to bid for something then you have to have the points available first - that takes time to accumulate. An added bonus is that each person will put their own value on the BPO they are bidding for. For BPOs that no one particularly wants then the bid prices will be quite low. For ones with high demand then the bid price will be high. Over a short period of time everything will equalize out.
You could even do this in combination with the existing system. If you want to bid on an auction you are able to. If not then you still have a (small) chance from the current lottery approach. Overall I think this could be a much fairer way to distribute the BPOs into the community.
By not using ISK at all to bid with there is no way for someone to essentially "buy" the BPO by using out of game money.
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Ruffio Sepico
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Posted - 2006.01.03 20:31:00 -
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Originally by: Theta9
Yep people with some 500k+ reaserch points will in fact win the first few auctions but you fail to realise that once they win the auction they are out some off 500k reaserch points and back to 0.
its been stated its impossible to grind agents so a system were you bid using RP is in fact more fair than the current system. It helps out those that have high RP now and have been waiting for years for a bpo. While it gives those who dont have as much hope in that the person who won the bpo's is out for a while in future offerings. (I know someone that won a bpo once then another one from the same agent 2 weeks later for less than 3k RP's and they yet again in 2 weeks for another 3k from the same agent) at least this way you guarantee an equal spread.
If the auctions is long and far between. It will drag out long before the players with less RP have any chance to win an auction. Unless its some crap bpo no one want. Of course an auction in addition to current system is interesting though. It will probably free up the chance for others to get a bpo through R&D as the ones with most RP's will spend theirs on auctions.
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Proteaus
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Posted - 2006.01.04 03:43:00 -
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The main problem is the newer char's(of which I am one)have basicaly no chance to ever get anything on the bpo lotto.Say you have 100 lottery tickets and the other guy has 700000 I give you one guess who will win the lottery.There is no way in this lottery that the newer players can compete with ppl that have been getting rp for 2 years or more.The only way the newer players could compete is if they started a new server.Unless of course they were to make the bpo more available to all.It seems that the ppl getting the bpo's are the ones that have alts dedicated to nothing else but research.There should be a cap for the number of research pts that can be ammased.Then as more ppl reach that cap the lottery would become more fair over time.
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Theta9
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Posted - 2006.01.04 05:25:00 -
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Edited by: Theta9 on 04/01/2006 05:27:25
your missing the point of RP's. there is no way once they are gone for an old char that currently has 700k or so to get that much again in anything less than say 2 or so years. also, they may not have all of them in the same field, so they cant spend all 700k on 1 bid.
a new charicter then trains up the skills gets a good agent and does his missions I guarantee that in a few months if he focuses on it he will be making as much as said 3 year old reasercher in RP's a day if he works at it so he is in effect in the running as well.
The point is that in a auction based system you have reward for your efforts eventually maybe not immediate but a LOT faster than the current system. and its the only reall fair system out there atm. Cause once you had lvl 5 in related skill for said reserch agent your maxed in RP's a day and cant get any more other than the 1 mission a day for 2x RP so this is a very good solution to the current system
ps. this is dirrected to the guy a few spaces above lol.
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Beaker Laab
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Posted - 2006.01.05 03:29:00 -
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Edited by: Beaker Laab on 05/01/2006 03:30:08
Originally by: Theta9
Yep people with some 500k+ reaserch points will in fact win the first few auctions but you fail to realise that once they win the auction they are out some off 500k reaserch points and back to 0.
A few days ago my main char got the Huginn BPO.... spend 110k Research points in it. That over 500days of research at 200 points/day.
This is my 3rd BPO, other two bing 125mm autocannon Tech2, and Tremor M.
About getting these to the market.
I myself did make 200 of the cannons and sold around half of those before selling the BPO. These days I don't play EVE that much, mainly because of IRL stuff and WoW. So these Huginn/Tremor BPO's I will most likely sell it with 5-10 days. But why? Because I want the new items to be on the market for people, but I simple don't have the time/skill to do it.
ps. Tremor BPO cost me 250+days of research.
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evil eye
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Posted - 2006.01.05 12:18:00 -
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The problem is that a lot of people with t2 bpo's don't actually do much with them, a few people i imagine leave eve or stop playing for a while...
... where does that leave us?
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theRaptor
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Posted - 2006.01.05 14:20:00 -
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And please put pirate officers in empire. It is unfair that the older and richer players get that good loot because they can afford to go out to 0.0.
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