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Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
1315
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Posted - 2013.08.08 17:13:00 -
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Zen Guerrilla wrote:Perkin Warbeck wrote:The rail Tristan. We can probably lock this thread now. Actually, the rail Tristan is easily the most powerful frigate these days. As for underrated ships, my vote goes to Rail Atron AC Maulus ASB Breacher
it really really isn't... But alright. BYDI recruitment closed-ish |

Fret Thiesant
Oregon Trail rising
29
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Posted - 2013.08.08 22:34:00 -
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Tormentors are underrated in general at least going by the amount of them I see.
Which I don't get because they are a very very nasty frig. |

Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
453
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Posted - 2013.08.09 16:52:00 -
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Zen Guerrilla wrote:You don't have to fit damps on a Maulus. Pretend it's a slasher with a 20m3 drone bay. On the other hand, you can fit 280s, mwd, a long point,2 damps and pretend you're a hookbill with tracking issues.
Of course you don't have to take advantage of a ship's bonuses. But why wouldn't you? Especially when damps are f'ing amazing now, and even better when bonused. And why use 280s when you can fit T2 lasers with Scorch for tracking that is twice as good and still cap stable? Either way I don't see how a Maulus without damps would qualify as "underrated". Seems kinda meh fitted as you're suggesting. http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |

Seraph Castillon
Justified Chaos
80
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Posted - 2013.08.09 17:07:00 -
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Princess Bride wrote:And why use 280s when you can fit T2 lasers with Scorch for tracking that is twice as good and still cap stable?
Fitting scorch lasers on a damp Maulus is asking for trouble. You can only get your damps to work well enough to be that close if you have a bunch of very unpopular skills trained up sufficiently. On top of that you'll be way to close to scram range for comfort and need to spend lows or rigs on getting your lasers to work past 10km. |

Zen Guerrilla
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
57
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Posted - 2013.08.09 17:10:00 -
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Princess Bride wrote:Of course you don't have to take advantage of a ship's bonuses. But why wouldn't you? Especially when damps are f'ing amazing now, and even better when bonused. If you're going to leave damps off the ship, what do you get in trade?
And why use 280s when you can fit T2 lasers with Scorch for tracking that is twice as good? Cap stability? Either way I don't see how a Maulus without damps would qualify as "underrated". Seems kinda meh fitted as you're suggesting. I was just giving examples, calm down there.
And what you get if you fit a Maulus without damps? A frigate that pretty much everyone will engage without thinking twice. pew pew |

Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
454
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Posted - 2013.08.09 17:19:00 -
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Zen Guerrilla wrote:Princess Bride wrote:Of course you don't have to take advantage of a ship's bonuses. But why wouldn't you? Especially when damps are f'ing amazing now, and even better when bonused. If you're going to leave damps off the ship, what do you get in trade?
And why use 280s when you can fit T2 lasers with Scorch for tracking that is twice as good? Cap stability? Either way I don't see how a Maulus without damps would qualify as "underrated". Seems kinda meh fitted as you're suggesting. I was just giving examples, calm down there. And what you get if you fit a Maulus without damps? A frigate that pretty much everyone will engage without thinking twice.
Not sure what gave you the impression that I'm not calm. I was just having trouble following your argument and asking for clarification. Some people might call it a conversation. http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |

Garr Earthbender
Justified Chaos
164
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Posted - 2013.08.10 03:11:00 -
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Shield executioner. Solo? I guess it works for some things. I use it mainly as decent tank suicide tackle. Somehow it lives 1/2 the time.
Rifter. Should be coming back into it's own here soon. I flew one the other day and was surprised at how well it did.
Punisher. I love this thing. I'll take it into medium plexes against destroyers it works so good! 200 plate +AAR is baws. (then add in some legion boosts and it's almost silly. I like the web+no scram idea. I did that with the coercer back in the day, this oughta work just as well! -Scissors is overpowered, rock is fine. -Paper |

Christine Peeveepeeski
Quafe Commandos The Obsidian Front
268
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Posted - 2013.08.10 10:27:00 -
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web + no scram is always fun. I used it on brawling wolf fits..seems to do the job on most people too slow to realise it's a web not a scram on them.
Anyway, my vote is tormentor. They should be a lot more common than they are. |

Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
889
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Posted - 2013.08.11 01:09:00 -
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Rifter. The Tears Must Flow |

DarkestHeart
The Great Harmon Institute Of Technology Innovia Alliance
120
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Posted - 2013.08.11 16:47:00 -
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Oh Beacher for sure, reach very good effenciancy ratios with that little fig.
DPS is a bit of a lack luster with 111 on my fit. But with 227 dps tank its a beast.
This is my fit:
[Breacher, PvP]
Ballistic Control System II Damage Control II Nanofiber Internal Structure II
1MN Afterburner II Medium Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 50 'Langour' Drive Disruptor I Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket
Small Core Defense Field Extender I Small Core Defense Field Extender I Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Warrior II x2
I use the warriors over hobs so that you can place more dps on fast ships like condors and the like that can kite you, the breacher has a fast and very agile hull but with the rockets your limited to close range enagements. |

Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
1335
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Posted - 2013.08.11 17:42:00 -
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Garr Earthbender wrote:Shield executioner. Solo? I guess it works for some things. I use it mainly as decent tank suicide tackle. Somehow it lives 1/2 the time.
Rifter. Should be coming back into it's own here soon. I flew one the other day and was surprised at how well it did.
Punisher. I love this thing. I'll take it into medium plexes against destroyers it works so good! 200 plate +AAR is baws. (then add in some legion boosts and it's almost silly. I like the web+no scram idea. I did that with the coercer back in the day, this oughta work just as well!
You can kill stuff with links? Thats amazing!
-_-
Rifter and punisher are the two absolute worst frigates in eve. BYDI recruitment closed-ish |

Tetsuo Tsukaya
Pixel Navigators
96
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Posted - 2013.08.11 17:54:00 -
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A few people are catching on but the Tormentor is generally thought of as crap but can in fact be really really solid as a brawler. 180DPS with a silly good brick tank for a frigate with a 400 plate. Speed is a serious issue though |

Goltis Uitra
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.08.14 17:12:00 -
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My Amarr alt used to rock Punisher with no scram and a small cap booster instead-neut in the utility. No plate just dcu, anm, heatsink and a sar in the lows. This was b4 tiericide. Worked well. Lack of plate made up for speed issues somewhat. Rigs were metastasis and dps. Iirc. Confirming many dont realise they're not scrammed. |

Vipre Morte
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2013.08.14 19:05:00 -
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My pod is underrated. I'm a whopping 0/3 in a fight with it. |

Tho'mas
Alpha Strategy The Unthinkables
14
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Posted - 2013.08.15 16:14:00 -
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DarkestHeart wrote:Oh Beacher for sure, reach very good effenciancy ratios with that little fig.
DPS is a bit of a lack luster with 111 on my fit. But with 227 dps tank its a beast.
This is my fit:
[Breacher, PvP]
Ballistic Control System II Damage Control II Nanofiber Internal Structure II
1MN Afterburner II Medium Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 50 'Langour' Drive Disruptor I Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket
Small Core Defense Field Extender I Small Core Defense Field Extender I Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Warrior II x2
I use the warriors over hobs so that you can place more dps on fast ships like condors and the like that can kite you, the breacher has a fast and very agile hull but with the rockets your limited to close range enagements.
Why have the Core Defense Field Extender rigs if you're using an Ancillary Shield Booster? |

Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
468
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Posted - 2013.08.15 18:06:00 -
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Tho'mas wrote:Why have the Core Defense Field Extender rigs if you're using an Ancillary Shield Booster?
Because alpha is bad, and can kill you, m'kay?
Alpha BAD. Buffer GOOD.
Edit: Although, granted, 10% won't make a ton of difference. http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |

Trinkets friend
Rules of Acquisition Acquisition Of Empire
1101
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Posted - 2013.08.16 04:53:00 -
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I am going to go out on a limb and stop this Punisher and Riftaa and Comet fanboi club right in its tracks with the Vigil.
Use this fit here and go hunt Condors and Hookbills.
You can also set it up the EM resists and go hunt Slicers and Executioners.
I don't recommend Merlins but it does work from time to time if they are blaster-AB-web fit and you scram-kite them.
The best feature of a Vigil is its engagability; Slicers and Condors will engage you instantly and not even realise you can keel-haul them without heating your MWD. YOLO is the Carpe Diem of Gen Y http://www.localectomy.blogspot.com.au
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IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
521
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Posted - 2013.08.16 06:25:00 -
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Trinkets friend wrote:I am going to go out on a limb and stop this Punisher and Riftaa and Comet fanboi club right in its tracks with the Vigil. Use this fit here and go hunt Condors and Hookbills. You can also set it up the EM resists and go hunt Slicers and Executioners. I don't recommend Merlins but it does work from time to time if they are blaster-AB-web fit and you scram-kite them. The best feature of a Vigil is its engagability; Slicers and Condors will engage you instantly and not even realise you can keel-haul them without heating your MWD.
BLASPHEMY.
Hookbill is awesome. If you want to get your soul to heaven, trust in me. Now don't judge or question. You are broken now, but faith can heal you. Just do everything I tell you to do. (Opiate - Tool) |

Clahim
TheSpaceDog's
13
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Posted - 2013.08.16 08:04:00 -
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Crucifier all the way !
This ship is a beast. |

Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
1361
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Posted - 2013.08.16 12:21:00 -
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Clahim wrote:Crucifier all the way !
This ship is a beast.
It is good against solo turret ships that for some reason think they can kill a crucifier.
Otherwise its a bit meh. BYDI recruitment closed-ish |

STSxLight
Corporate Scum Test Alliance Please Ignore
25
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Posted - 2013.08.17 11:37:00 -
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scram kite executioner, scram kite tormentor. they get me a lot of fights within 5 minuts of undocking , some people might runn from the tormentor, everyone will engage executioner  "Oh, you think nullsec is your ally. But you merely adopted nullsec; I was born in it, moulded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but BLINDING!" |

Karl Planck
Heretic Army Heretic Initiative
338
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Posted - 2013.08.19 17:11:00 -
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pvp probe, its a little rediculas and i dont understand why Proud CEO of Heretic Army and loyal servent to Mother Amamake. COME AT ME BRO! Forums: http://forum.heretic-army.biz/index.php-á
Killboard: http://kb.heretic-army.biz/
Follow me on twitter @KarlPlanck |

Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting Home Front Coalition
648
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Posted - 2013.08.28 12:21:00 -
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+1 for the mention of the Vigil. People seem to think it's only use is TP fleet support. I think I will try that fit some time, it looks like a fun setup to screw around in FW space. |

Thexx Littlechurch
Black Whole Industries
13
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Posted - 2013.08.29 22:28:00 -
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Dramiel with a TD and neut. 3 drones make it awesome. |

Janna Sway
42
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Posted - 2013.08.30 07:32:00 -
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Thexx Littlechurch wrote:Dramiel with a TD and neut. 3 drones make it awesome.
Why no Sentinel? |

Zen Guerrilla
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
70
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Posted - 2013.08.30 14:16:00 -
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In what world is the Dramiel considered underrated? 
And the Sentinel comment, i'll just consider that a troll. pew pew |

Kalin Droga
Seniors Clan Get Off My Lawn
0
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Posted - 2013.09.01 13:51:00 -
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ASB Slasher is superb. |

Tami Zamayid
New Sepulchral Monolith
1
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Posted - 2013.09.05 12:53:00 -
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Tormentor is great. SAR, wed scram and ab, pulse lazors and some drugs. Makes it a tad beastly. |

Robert Williamssss
Phoenix on the Horizon
0
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Posted - 2013.09.08 06:02:00 -
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Blaster merlin with med ASB. Can tank most frigs in as long as it takes to blap them |

Alduin666 Shikkoken
MIS Auxiliaries Kadeshians
31
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Posted - 2013.09.08 11:16:00 -
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My favorite is the Kestrel, but maybe that's just because I have a fetish for missiles. Its like babies first hookbill. My favorite fit is a medium shield extender with light missiles and a microwarpdrive. It's vastly underestimated and tends to surprise even the occasional dessy that pops on grid. Honor is a fools prize. Glory is of no use to the dead.
Be a man! Post with your main! |
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