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Phoenix Jones
Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:46:00 -
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The most dramatic ships that need a total remodel.. The Dominix.... the Dominix by FAAAAAAAAAAR.
The Dominix is the old workhorse of the Gallente Navy. More to that is that this workhorse has been redone quite a bit, and while being a mainstay of the Gallente Navy, is massively out of date regarding spec's. If I were a gambling man, I would leave the Navy Dominix as the current Dominix hull (the Spacewhale, potato shoe turd), and re-purpose the base Dominix to This:
http://www.deviantart.com/art/Naru-Kami-Final-179403464
That ship took 2nd place. Just tint it green.
I would love the Vexor to be redone, maybe look something like this.
http://baranha.deviantart.com/art/FUJIN-FINAL-181896594
Now looking at its design from the Vexor, the changes are not overly substantial. Again I would leave the Navy Vexor as the original Vexor hull (The Gallente Navy don't like spending isk on new design ships when they can just buy the old ones rotting away for cheap and repurpose them), and change the Vexor and the Ishtar to the above (gives the newer people interesting new ship designs while keeping the old workhorse as the new navy variant).
Yes I know these are iconic, but Iconic does not mean "Stuck as is forever," they aren't historical monuments. The original flavor of the ships will be kept in the navy version of the hulls (which is important as the navy would keep an older model as it would cost the Navy Department Much Less to buy the old Dominix's and repurpose them, than buy the new updated model just to make them as useful as the old models, but cost a bunch more for designer "fluff".
You can design two new hulls for these two old favorites, re-giving them life.
The other benefit, the two above art submissions were submitted through your eve arts contest, so I believe you have the right to use these ship designs ALREADY (submissions are legal tender that they give up the right of the design and maybe used in game as CCP sees fit, check your legal). |

Bronto Scorpio
Aliastra Gallente Federation
44
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:50:00 -
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Bernard Cribbins wrote:I think the blackbird needs remodelling too
Yeah it doesn't even look like a ship, (at least moa and aeon and imicus and other uglies do)
it seems more like some space scaffolding for building a station or something that can fly |

Daisai
Daisai Investments.
124
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:54:00 -
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Phoenix Jones wrote:The most dramatic ships that need a total remodel.. The Dominix.... the Dominix by FAAAAAAAAAAR. The Dominix is the old workhorse of the Gallente Navy. More to that is that this workhorse has been redone quite a bit, and while being a mainstay of the Gallente Navy, is massively out of date regarding spec's. If I were a gambling man, I would leave the Navy Dominix as the current Dominix hull (the Spacewhale, potato shoe turd), and re-purpose the base Dominix to This: http://www.deviantart.com/art/Naru-Kami-Final-179403464That ship took 2nd place. Just tint it green. I would love the Vexor to be redone, maybe look something like this. http://baranha.deviantart.com/art/FUJIN-FINAL-181896594Now looking at its design from the Vexor, the changes are not overly substantial. Again I would leave the Navy Vexor as the original Vexor hull (The Gallente Navy don't like spending isk on new design ships when they can just buy the old ones rotting away for cheap and repurpose them), and change the Vexor and the Ishtar to the above (gives the newer people interesting new ship designs while keeping the old workhorse as the new navy variant). Yes I know these are iconic, but Iconic does not mean "Stuck as is forever," they aren't historical monuments. The original flavor of the ships will be kept in the navy version of the hulls (which is important as the navy would keep an older model as it would cost the Navy Department Much Less to buy the old Dominix's and repurpose them, than buy the new updated model just to make them as useful as the old models, but cost a bunch more for designer "fluff". You can design two new hulls for these two old favorites, re-giving them life. The other benefit, the two above art submissions were submitted through your eve arts contest, so I believe you have the right to use these ship designs ALREADY (submissions are legal tender that they give up the right of the design and maybe used in game as CCP sees fit, check your legal).
If a dominix would look like that i would be flying one all the time. |

Jack Tronic
borkedLabs
119
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Posted - 2013.08.02 02:17:00 -
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Daisai wrote:Phoenix Jones wrote:The most dramatic ships that need a total remodel.. The Dominix.... the Dominix by FAAAAAAAAAAR. The Dominix is the old workhorse of the Gallente Navy. More to that is that this workhorse has been redone quite a bit, and while being a mainstay of the Gallente Navy, is massively out of date regarding spec's. If I were a gambling man, I would leave the Navy Dominix as the current Dominix hull (the Spacewhale, potato shoe turd), and re-purpose the base Dominix to This: http://www.deviantart.com/art/Naru-Kami-Final-179403464That ship took 2nd place. Just tint it green. I would love the Vexor to be redone, maybe look something like this. http://baranha.deviantart.com/art/FUJIN-FINAL-181896594Now looking at its design from the Vexor, the changes are not overly substantial. Again I would leave the Navy Vexor as the original Vexor hull (The Gallente Navy don't like spending isk on new design ships when they can just buy the old ones rotting away for cheap and repurpose them), and change the Vexor and the Ishtar to the above (gives the newer people interesting new ship designs while keeping the old workhorse as the new navy variant). Yes I know these are iconic, but Iconic does not mean "Stuck as is forever," they aren't historical monuments. The original flavor of the ships will be kept in the navy version of the hulls (which is important as the navy would keep an older model as it would cost the Navy Department Much Less to buy the old Dominix's and repurpose them, than buy the new updated model just to make them as useful as the old models, but cost a bunch more for designer "fluff". You can design two new hulls for these two old favorites, re-giving them life. The other benefit, the two above art submissions were submitted through your eve arts contest, so I believe you have the right to use these ship designs ALREADY (submissions are legal tender that they give up the right of the design and maybe used in game as CCP sees fit, check your legal). If a dominix would look like that i would be flying one all the time.
That model goes agaisnt ALL standards for Gallente designs. There's no organicness to the hull. Gallente ships inherently have alot of curves.
You are citing the deviantart contest which was a complete disaster. CCP even made their own after the fact because deviantart did not enforce the rules at all. People submitted everything and the kitchensink that did not fit EVE. |

Sal Landry
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
77
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Posted - 2013.08.02 02:34:00 -
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Mycool Jahksn wrote:How they got rusty in space in the first place is something I'd like to know..
Well we are flying a Submarine Simulator game after all
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Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
2555
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Posted - 2013.08.02 03:35:00 -
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Why be so down on the Domi? Yah it looks like an "older" technology, but in the lore that's because it IS an old ship! It's the oldest Gallente BS in service!
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Phoenix Jones
Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking
134
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Posted - 2013.08.02 03:38:00 -
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Jack Tronic wrote:Daisai wrote:Phoenix Jones wrote:The most dramatic ships that need a total remodel.. The Dominix.... the Dominix by FAAAAAAAAAAR. The Dominix is the old workhorse of the Gallente Navy. More to that is that this workhorse has been redone quite a bit, and while being a mainstay of the Gallente Navy, is massively out of date regarding spec's. If I were a gambling man, I would leave the Navy Dominix as the current Dominix hull (the Spacewhale, potato shoe turd), and re-purpose the base Dominix to This: http://www.deviantart.com/art/Naru-Kami-Final-179403464That ship took 2nd place. Just tint it green. I would love the Vexor to be redone, maybe look something like this. http://baranha.deviantart.com/art/FUJIN-FINAL-181896594Now looking at its design from the Vexor, the changes are not overly substantial. Again I would leave the Navy Vexor as the original Vexor hull (The Gallente Navy don't like spending isk on new design ships when they can just buy the old ones rotting away for cheap and repurpose them), and change the Vexor and the Ishtar to the above (gives the newer people interesting new ship designs while keeping the old workhorse as the new navy variant). Yes I know these are iconic, but Iconic does not mean "Stuck as is forever," they aren't historical monuments. The original flavor of the ships will be kept in the navy version of the hulls (which is important as the navy would keep an older model as it would cost the Navy Department Much Less to buy the old Dominix's and repurpose them, than buy the new updated model just to make them as useful as the old models, but cost a bunch more for designer "fluff". You can design two new hulls for these two old favorites, re-giving them life. The other benefit, the two above art submissions were submitted through your eve arts contest, so I believe you have the right to use these ship designs ALREADY (submissions are legal tender that they give up the right of the design and maybe used in game as CCP sees fit, check your legal). If a dominix would look like that i would be flying one all the time. That model goes agaisnt ALL standards for Gallente designs. There's no organicness to the hull. Gallente ships inherently have alot of curves. You are citing the deviantart contest which was a complete disaster. CCP even made their own after the fact because deviantart did not enforce the rules at all. People submitted everything and the kitchensink that did not fit EVE.
Regardless there was allot of quality ships produced, especially the two linked above. And it's about time some of the gallente ships get a good upgrade even if its off the beaten track. The above is a perfect setup for a drone ship, especially a gallente one. As a baseline, the dominix should look something like that. You say "fix it", I give you example art of how.
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Lunaleil Fournier
StarFleet Enterprises Red Alliance
29
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Posted - 2013.08.02 03:47:00 -
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Moa/Eagle. Its seriously terrible. |

Hra Neuvosto
FinFleet The Retirement Club
70
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Posted - 2013.08.02 03:53:00 -
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Phoenix Jones wrote: The above is a perfect setup for a drone ship, especially a gallente one.
No, they look very uninspired, especially the Fujin which is just a bigger Halo covenant hoverbike. |

mechtech
Ice Liberation Army
485
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Posted - 2013.08.02 04:00:00 -
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Implying Implications wrote:Typhoon.
You leave my flying cigar alone! |
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Drake Doe
SVER True Blood
259
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Posted - 2013.08.02 04:22:00 -
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I'm sure we can all agree on the celestis, crucifier, and the asymmetric caldari ships, besides the moa. "The homogenization of EVE began when Gallente and Caldari started sharing a weapon system."---Vermaak Doe-- "Ohh squabbles ohh I love my dust trolls like watching an episode of Maury with less " Is he my Dad " but more of " My Neighbor took a dump on my lawn " good episode! *pops more corn*" ---Evernub-- |

Hiyora Akachi
UNITAS. Silent Infinity
186
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Posted - 2013.08.02 04:23:00 -
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Don't you ******* dare. |

Clementina
Coreli Corporation
88
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Posted - 2013.08.02 04:52:00 -
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The Imicus. It sucks and it always sucked. Even back when the Helios was based on the Maulus, it just didn't matter back then because the Imicus was some kind of hauling frigate that nobody used. The Imicus should be changed totally.
The Moa. If you look at the rear engines of the vessel they seem to be off and the ship appears to be uncomfortably bent upwards slightly. The change to get it to beautifulness shouldn't be that large. Keep the head and suitcase, just make the body straight.
One Minor thing though, Small tech 2 ships tend to differ more from their tech 1 hull than large tech 2 ships. Even when ignoring the Stealth Bombers (Which I think differ too much for the Tristan/Nemesis). Consider the Incursus versus the ishkur. The Ishkur has extra engines and two more antennas. On the other hand the Widow simply has a different paint job than the Scorpion. Larger tech 2 ships should get additional random engines, antennas, dishes, compartments, maybe slightly different bodies, and the like.
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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
3942
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Posted - 2013.08.02 05:09:00 -
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On one hand I dislike symmetrical ships. On the other hand I love the Dominix and Providence.
The one ship I would change is the Imicus. It looks like it's sagging at the bottom. I have seen concept art of a new Imicus which is vertically symmetrical, with two engine pods underneath, but it looks too much like a turret from Portal to be taken seriously.
Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |

Kimentor
Bite Me inc Bitten.
4
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Posted - 2013.08.02 05:41:00 -
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Similar upgrades that you guys made to the mega model would be smexy to have on dominix and Myrm |

Praxis Ginimic
Dark Knight Legion The Hydra Confederacy
422
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Posted - 2013.08.02 06:38:00 -
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All T2 ships should have their own unique models and a lot of the subsystems are just bizarre. |

Ge Hucel-Ge
University of Caille Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2013.08.02 06:51:00 -
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increase the size of supercarriers - they are too small compared to normal carriers and some bs |

Chi'Nane T'Kal
Interminatus Aeterna Anima
125
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Posted - 2013.08.02 07:25:00 -
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Drake Doe wrote:I'm sure we can all agree on the celestis, crucifier, and the asymmetric caldari ships, besides the moa.
I'm pretty sure we will never ALL agree. On whatever.
Asymmetry per se isn't bad, as long as there's a reason for it. Alas, with most ships it's hard to tell.
That said, please remodel the Moa/Gila, thanks. |

Lixia Saran
Reasonable People Of Sound Mind
37
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Posted - 2013.08.02 08:48:00 -
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The fol includes faction/t2 variant:
Typhoon Moa Claymore Arbitrator Crucifier Drake Maelstrom Blackbird Slasher |

Gealbhan
True Slave Foundations Shaktipat Revelators
394
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Posted - 2013.08.02 08:51:00 -
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I'm going to have to agree with the general consensus and say the Moa.
It's a pretty simple fix too - Remove the "arm" holding that left -engine housing?- and place it flush with the body just like the other side. Bing, bang, boom - done.
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Drake Doe
SVER True Blood
259
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Posted - 2013.08.02 09:11:00 -
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Chi'Nane T'Kal wrote:Drake Doe wrote:I'm sure we can all agree on the celestis, crucifier, and the asymmetric caldari ships, besides the moa. I'm pretty sure we will never ALL agree. On whatever. Asymmetry per se isn't bad, as long as there's a reason for it. Alas, with most ships it's hard to tell. That said, please remodel the Moa/Gila, thanks. Asymmetric gallente ships look nice and organic, however caldari ships look like someone went crazy welding random parts on, with a few exceptions that would still look better symmetric. The gila MAY be able to look a bit better, but that's a change I can live without. "The homogenization of EVE began when Gallente and Caldari started sharing a weapon system."---Vermaak Doe-- "Ohh squabbles ohh I love my dust trolls like watching an episode of Maury with less " Is he my Dad " but more of " My Neighbor took a dump on my lawn " good episode! *pops more corn*" ---Evernub-- |

Alice Saki
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
77318
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Posted - 2013.08.02 09:15:00 -
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Bhaalgorn... It needs to be more terrifying... the Geddon hull is not good enough
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Silver Getsuga
Quantum Studies Institute
2
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Posted - 2013.08.02 10:05:00 -
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1. Imicus 2. Moa 3. Bhaalgorn
Also, if you're reusing hull for faction/navy versions change model slightly (but visually distinguishable). And I'm not talking about color. |

Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
714
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Posted - 2013.08.02 10:26:00 -
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HELIOS plueeese!!!!!
Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. |

Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
518
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Posted - 2013.08.02 10:33:00 -
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The phoenix, since he was retextured, looks awesome, and I'm the first surprised to see how the texture affected a model that I believed couldn't be anything else than crap.
Imo, the Moa, Falcon, Bantam (for this one it would take too much time compared to his usage), Condor, Caracal, Scythe, Bellicose, Helios, and the Rokh (only a bit yes, but it's one of Caldari masterpiece and it's also a tiny ship while its shape is not intimidating at all.), could use a resculpt, in terms of 3D model. G££ <= Me |

Mizhir
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
28467
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Posted - 2013.08.02 10:36:00 -
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Alice Saki wrote:Bhaalgorn... It needs to be more terrifying... the Geddon hull is not good enough
That would be awesome :)
Also, the Domi. It is too awesome to look like a giant turd. We will never forget you Saede!
I bet you dont see things like this so often in EVE |

Phoenix Jones
Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking
134
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Posted - 2013.08.02 10:53:00 -
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The dominix needs to be redone. Its been asked for and even speculated when the new interiors to space stations were announced.
But I am done jumping down the rabbit hole of random developer posts in the hopes of getting an ear or some type of dedication to a change. We had that with the high resolution textures thread, and not a word since. It seems that this was just a stunt to ramp up either enthusiasm, or false hope.
Do it or don't. Just don't tease the community about it.
We have the 99 reasonable things thread going on. Why don't you, Mr Art, start a "Vote for the next hull design" thread, and you can get some type of credible feedback on which ship the community wants redone. It would be more organized, the Bosses will say "Ok that works", and the community will be a little bit happier that they are getting something they want, rather than haunting the forums begging for someone to listen.
To be fair, make it "one for each race". So everybody's happy to some degree. |

Guttri
Grauer Orden
5
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Posted - 2013.08.02 10:56:00 -
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Typhoon |

Inokuma Yawara
University of Caille Gallente Federation
74
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Posted - 2013.08.02 10:58:00 -
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When I first started playing, I thought these ships are all ugly. Only a few of them look kind of decent. The thing that bothers me most is the asymmetrical arrangements of their engines. If you have all of your engines on one side of the ship, it's going to spin around and not be able to fly straight. If the mass of a ship is imbalanced, then it will spin around and not be able to fly straight. Make the ship designs believable at least. And quit making them look like hot steaming turds, or giant phallic symbols.
The only ship I find that I like most is the Comet. Leave that one alone, except maybe to take out that headlamp. It makes me think of a steam locomotive with that headlamp on it. Besides, who needs headlamps in space? The only ships that look real good, and believable are the O.R.E barges and exhumers. The O.R.E. Nocturnous (the salvaging ship) looks good, too. The industrials seem alright. I haven't seen them all, so I can't really speak about all of them, but the Iterons all look believable, so do the Caldari and Amarri industrials. The gigantic Caldari industrial is believable, while the giant Gallente one is not.
The Caldari ships are all boxy. The boxy shapes is not what bothers me. What bothers me is the impossibly imbalanced shapes they have. The Minmatar ships all suffer from the same problem. They look like they were all built with chicken wire, and pipe cleaners. They don't look rugged, and do not look like they can take a hit.
Watch this space.-á New exciting signature in development. |

Warde Guildencrantz
TunDraGon
813
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Posted - 2013.08.02 11:29:00 -
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moa/osprey only ever.
moa needs drastic change,
osprey not as much, but as it is currently is a bit too fugly |
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