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Shinnen	Posted - 2005.12.18 21:12:00 - [1] 3 days of ruined gameplay. major lag. Loss of ships. Lack of ingame reimbursement. What can CCP do to compensate for all of this? Free days? no that seems rediculous, 33 pence for all of this? Any suggestions? --- INFOD
Discorporation	Posted - 2005.12.18 21:13:00 - [2] Fix the servers? Yeah, seems like the perfect compensation to me. [Now with MIND BULLETS!]
Freibeuter	Posted - 2005.12.18 21:14:00 - [3] Just remember: All the new content (which you'll never get to use because it costs billions of isk) is free!
jbob2000	Posted - 2005.12.18 21:14:00 - [4] They aren't entitled to give you compensation. Read the EULA.
Pwny McPwnerson	Posted - 2005.12.18 21:14:00 - [5] Nothing. Read your EULA. They don't owe anyone anything.
snowpanther	Posted - 2005.12.18 21:14:00 - [6] I just want a server I can Play on cos this 1 is full
Derekin	Posted - 2005.12.18 21:19:00 - [7] Edited by: Derekin on 18/12/2005 21:19:18 Originally by: Shinnen 3 days of ruined gameplay. major lag. Loss of ships. Lack of ingame reimbursement. What can CCP do to compensate for all of this? Free days? no that seems rediculous, 33 pence for all of this? Any suggestions? Maybe you can do a deal with CCP? They reimburse you your 3-days worth of subs (worth about $5), and in return you can pay them for the free content upgrade they've just spent the last 6 months coding? It'll only set you back about $30 going on what other complanies charge for their upgrades.
Nee'kita Frist	Posted - 2005.12.18 21:20:00 - [8] Free expansions... none of this "Jump to lightspeed" crap, or the EQ's area expansion packs which you have to buy... Or buy this for to get this new uber stuff etc etc. Nope, we get free expansions. There your compensated. STFU. Anyway what important thing have you to go to do anyway apart from cause the thing your whining about lol. I love 0.0.
Gonada	Posted - 2005.12.18 21:22:00 - [9] i would like compensation for having to read the sheer utter crap you whiner babays are spewing out. -I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.-
David Corbett	Posted - 2005.12.18 21:25:00 - [10] I seriously think it's time for some people to relax.
Sparschwein	Posted - 2005.12.18 21:26:00 - [11] STFU right back at you fanboy bunch. I don't care about expansion stuff consisting of ships I'll never be able to buy. I want to play and I can't. The rest of your beautiful expansion is a bunch of nerfs. Being thankfully we don't have to pay for getting nerfed, are we? Morons.
Megadon	Posted - 2005.12.18 21:27:00 - [12] Originally by: Shinnen 3 days of ruined gameplay. major lag. Loss of ships. Lack of ingame reimbursement. What can CCP do to compensate for all of this? Free days? no that seems rediculous, 33 pence for all of this? Any suggestions?
Jerusaleman	Posted - 2005.12.18 21:30:00 - [13] Originally by: Derekin Edited by: Derekin on 18/12/2005 21:19:18 Originally by: Shinnen 3 days of ruined gameplay. major lag. Loss of ships. Lack of ingame reimbursement. What can CCP do to compensate for all of this? Free days? no that seems rediculous, 33 pence for all of this? Any suggestions?[/quote Maybe you can do a deal with CCP? They reimburse you your 3-days worth of subs (worth about $5), and in return you can pay them for the free content upgrade they've just spent the last 6 months coding? It'll only set you back about $30 going on what other complanies charge for their upgrades. your talkin crap they give out the upgrades to keep people interested and payin monthly stop fooling yourself fool
Fooball	Posted - 2005.12.18 21:38:00 - [14] You can think whatever you wish. However the game is generally running smoothly now if you just get out of the couple really lagged spots. I've been ratting and having fun myself Just have patience with the login and couple jumps. Furthermore you have signed an agreement with CCP not to get refunded anything. Look at the eula, I think it is chapter 12 about Warranties. And I really think the best refund they can anyways give us is to keep working on fixing the remaining problems.
Hanan Lazaar	Posted - 2005.12.18 21:41:00 - [15] Originally by: Pwny McPwnerson Nothing. Read your EULA. They don't owe anyone anything. Sure they don't owe us anything, as your sharply mind analysed from the EULA. But it would be a nice gesture to give us one or two weeks of free playing. Thats what every trial noob also gets for free.
JoKane	Posted - 2005.12.18 21:44:00 - [16] Giving all players one or maybe two days of free gametime in compensation costs CCP **** loads of cash. They can keep their money and put it on serverupgrades instead. Two days is like nothing for a subscriber anyways.
Hanan Lazaar	Posted - 2005.12.18 21:47:00 - [17] Originally by: JoKane Giving all players one or maybe two days of free gametime in compensation costs CCP **** loads of cash. They can keep their money and put it on serverupgrades instead. Two days is like nothing for a subscriber anyways. Really, they make so much money in one or two days??? I didn't knew they make so much profit. But if so, than we surely can expect faster servers very soon?
Flavia Clio	Posted - 2005.12.18 21:48:00 - [18] Originally by: Sparschwein STFU right back at you fanboy bunch. I don't care about expansion stuff consisting of ships I'll never be able to buy. Morons. Sums up my feelings quiet nicely
Jowen Datloran	Posted - 2005.12.18 21:50:00 - [19] Perhaps it would be nice as a present. Sadly, the idea with presents is to give them as a surprise, not on demand. Or at least that's how people think in my part of the world. ---------------- Main as main can be
Mistress Sanchez	Posted - 2005.12.18 21:51:00 - [20] Originally by: Hanan Lazaar Really, they make so much money in one or two days??? I didn't knew they make so much profit. But if so, than we surely can expect faster servers very soon? 80k accounts * 2 days each = 160 000 days of gameplay. 160 000 days /30 = 5333 months. 5333 months * 14.95 euro each = 79 733 euro. This is just my own personal calculations, dont know if its true but keiron said that giving out free time is very costy.
Ashaeli	Posted - 2005.12.18 21:53:00 - [21] ROFL! Megadon you're my hero! That picture sums up MY feelings quite nicely ^.^ have a cookie!
Hanan Lazaar	Posted - 2005.12.18 21:53:00 - [22] Originally by: Jowen Datloran Perhaps it would be nice as a present. Sadly, the idea with presents is to give them as a surprise, not on demand. Or at least that's how people think in my part of the world. Not more a demand, as they demand money from me for playing. And we are not talking about a present, we talk about a nice gesture as compensation for all the disadvantages the players had to stand.
Kallista Wilde	Posted - 2005.12.18 21:53:00 - [23] #1. Any changes in a game this large is a HUGE undertaking. #2. Having worked as a software tester, considering ALL scenarios is simply impossible given the time frames between releases. #3. Finding the hardware to test and coordinating 'x' number of people to log on between reboots, hotfixes, and crashes just ain't gonna happen. #4. History with most MMORPG style games and laggy releases (Ultima Online first few months...) shows that the devs go above and beyond the call staying late hours to serve it's customers to the best of their combined abilities. #5 Those of us who know and love this game have the patience to play where the rewards are not immediate, and should also have the patience (and a little class) not to complain at the first sign of trouble. #6 (and final) Spend some time with RL friends, Family, and enjoy the holidays instead of worrying about things we have no direct control over. Merry Christmas and Happy holidays!!
Gamer4liff	Posted - 2005.12.18 21:54:00 - [24] If we are lucky they might give us an extra day of skill training free, But even that would be pushing it. All in all stop whining, we are not entitled to any compensation.
Kilostream	Posted - 2005.12.18 21:54:00 - [25] Personally, I don't care about compensation. What I want is ccp to admit they don't have this under control yet, take the pressure off themselves a bit and give us a rollback until they can sort it out - patience is one thing - approaching a week of unplayable game is another.
Black 1	Posted - 2005.12.18 21:55:00 - [26] Edited by: Black 1 on 18/12/2005 21:55:41 Originally by: Shinnen 3 days of ruined gameplay. major lag. Loss of ships. Lack of ingame reimbursement. What can CCP do to compensate for all of this? Free days? no that seems rediculous, 33 pence for all of this? Any suggestions? I seriously think its time for you to STFU
Crackfarmer	Posted - 2005.12.18 21:55:00 - [27] I love how all the whiner threads get shot down within 10 seconds of appearing. This is why i continue to play eve. In most other games threads like these end up with ten pages of "YEAH I AGREE /SIGNED!"
Montague Zooma	Posted - 2005.12.18 21:59:00 - [28] Edited by: Montague Zooma on 18/12/2005 22:06:20 Yes, let's look at the EULA: Quote: CCP does not guarantee that it will continue to offer access to the System or support the Game. CCP may, in its sole discretion, cease to provide any or all of the services offered in connection with EVEÖ (including access to the System and any or all features or components of the Game), terminate the EULA, close all Accounts and cancel all of the rights granted to you under the EULA. CCP may communicate such termination to you upon 30 days notice in any of the following manners: (i) when you log into your Account; (ii) in a notice on CCP's website; (iii) via electronic mail; or (iv) in another manner that CCP deems suitable to inform you of the termination. If CCP terminates the EULA pursuant to this section, you will not receive a refund of prepaid subscription fees. According to the EULA, they can just take your money for a full year in advance and not make the game available to you. They don't even have to give you the thirty days warning; otherwise they'd say "will" instead of "may". Just because the EULA allows it doesn't mean they have to do it. That language is there to shield them from further lawsuits in the event that they go bankrupt or experience otherwise unexpected difficulties. CCP has compensated players for down time in the past, so it's perfectly within their power to do so again. If you don't ask for it, don't expect to get it. There's no excuse for flame fests, but otherwise there's nothing wrong with asking for a "make good". Seriously...for those of you content to tell others to stop whining because what's happening is covered by the EULA...would you still feel the same way if they took your money for a years subscription and then just closed everything down? The only difference is the degree of impact on the customer...the principle is identical.
Derekin	Posted - 2005.12.18 22:03:00 - [29] Originally by: Jerusaleman Originally by: Derekin Edited by: Derekin on 18/12/2005 21:19:18 Originally by: Shinnen 3 days of ruined gameplay. major lag. Loss of ships. Lack of ingame reimbursement. What can CCP do to compensate for all of this? Free days? no that seems rediculous, 33 pence for all of this? Any suggestions?[/quote Maybe you can do a deal with CCP? They reimburse you your 3-days worth of subs (worth about $5), and in return you can pay them for the free content upgrade they've just spent the last 6 months coding? It'll only set you back about $30 going on what other complanies charge for their upgrades. your talkin crap they give out the upgrades to keep people interested and payin monthly stop fooling yourself fool So by your reckoning the game should still be how it was back in may 2003 when it was first released? Nothing new, the same old stuff year after year? Yeah, sure that would be fun. Eve wouldn't even have lasted a year if it wasn't for new content and upgrades CCP give us - fool. LMFAO!
SharkBaait	Posted - 2005.12.18 22:22:00 - [30] Originally by: Mistress Sanchez Originally by: Hanan Lazaar Really, they make so much money in one or two days??? I didn't knew they make so much profit. But if so, than we surely can expect faster servers very soon? 80k accounts * 2 days each = 160 000 days of gameplay. 160 000 days /30 = 5333 months. 5333 months * 14.95 euro each = 79 733 euro. This is just my own personal calculations, dont know if its true but keiron said that giving out free time is very costy. yeah lets but it this way 80k * ú10 per month ermmm ú800k per month in subs feck me thats some profit! and they cant even get the hardware sorted with that sum of money coming ion everymonth - god some of you havent got a clue

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