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        |  Diesel47
 Bad Men Ltd.
 
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       | Posted - 2013.08.01 12:25:00 -
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 I really try not to think of it.
 
 But the stations in this game are too small in comparison to the ships that are coming out of them.
 
 
 Why?
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        |  Seetesh
 Seahawks Legion of Boom
 
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       | Posted - 2013.08.01 12:40:00 -
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 They are bigger on the inside as they use dimensional shrinkage technology.
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        |  Diesel47
 Bad Men Ltd.
 
 837
 
 
       | Posted - 2013.08.01 12:45:00 -
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 Seetesh wrote:They are bigger on the inside as they use dimensional shrinkage technology. 
 Is that a joke or the actual lore reason?
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        |  Sarmatiko
 
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       | Posted - 2013.08.01 12:49:00 -
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 Because Jove.
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        |  Whitehound
 
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       | Posted - 2013.08.01 12:50:00 -
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 Diesel47 wrote:I really try not to think of it. Try harder.
 Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.
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        |  Little Dragon Khamez
 Guardians of the Underworld
 White Mountain Coalition
 
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       | Posted - 2013.08.01 12:55:00 -
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 Eve is full of planck containers, that are bigger on the inside than the outside, the stations are the same. That's why you cant put one cargo container inside another if assembled.
 
 Medium Secure Container Capacity 390m3, volume 325m3 assembled, 33m3 packaged. I haven't read anything specific saying that this applies to stations so if it's anything it's only extrapolated lore because the containers do exist.
 
 
 Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction...
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        |  Wolf Kruol
 Destructive Influence
 Northern Coalition.
 
 26
 
 
       | Posted - 2013.08.01 12:57:00 -
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 I agree Stations should be scaled correctly... They need to be much larger. CCP fix this pls looks crappy.
 GÇ£If you're very very stupid? How can you possibly realize you're very very stupid?
 
 You have to be relatively intelligent to realize how stupid you really are!GÇ¥
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        |  Malcanis
 Vanishing Point.
 The Initiative.
 
 11055
 
 
       | Posted - 2013.08.01 13:12:00 -
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 Diesel47 wrote:I really try not to think of it.
 But the stations in this game are too small in comparison to the ships that are coming out of them.
 
 
 Why?
 
 "Small" is a relative term. Those big caldari stations (like Jita 4-4) are hundreds of cubic kilometres in volume.
 
 1 Kings 12:11
 
 
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        |  War Kitten
 Panda McLegion
 
 2466
 
 
       | Posted - 2013.08.01 13:15:00 -
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 Whitehound wrote:Diesel47 wrote:I really try not to think of it. Try harder. 
 No.
 
 Do, or do not. There is no try.
 
 I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all.
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        |  ElQuirko
 Jester Syndicate
 S0UTHERN C0MF0RT
 
 1704
 
 
       | Posted - 2013.08.01 13:15:00 -
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 Wolf Kruol wrote:I agree Stations should be scaled correctly... They need to be much larger. CCP fix this pls looks crappy. 
 So does your face.
 Save the Domi model! Spacewhales should be preserved.
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        |  Nebula Terron
 Wolf's in Sheep's Clothing
 
 55
 
 
       | Posted - 2013.08.01 13:15:00 -
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 They only look small because the camera has a focus on your ship. Try zooming out.
 
 Eve Online Forums: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious.
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        |  Whitehound
 
 1749
 
 
       | Posted - 2013.08.01 13:16:00 -
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 For what it is worth, doubling the diameter will cause the surface to increase four times and the textures will then need to be scaled up and look ugly or require a higher resolution, which costs more texture memory.
 Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.
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        |  Zak Matrix
 State War Academy
 Caldari State
 
 12
 
 
       | Posted - 2013.08.01 13:18:00 -
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 Just imagine how huge Jita 4-4 would be considering how much ships, modules and other crap is in it
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        |  Wolf Kruol
 Destructive Influence
 Northern Coalition.
 
 26
 
 
       | Posted - 2013.08.01 13:27:00 -
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 ElQuirko wrote:Wolf Kruol wrote:I agree Stations should be scaled correctly... They need to be much larger. CCP fix this pls looks crappy. So does your face. 
 http://i.imgur.com/9CA0BR4.jpg
 
 GÇ£If you're very very stupid? How can you possibly realize you're very very stupid?
 
 You have to be relatively intelligent to realize how stupid you really are!GÇ¥
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        |  Lee Hekard
 Photon Scorpions
 Tribal Liberation Alliance
 
 67
 
 
       | Posted - 2013.08.01 13:32:00 -
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 Aaaaaactually, according to lore, the stations are too big imo. For example, if you read up on the development of the Titans (like all the cool kids do), then the lore states that building the first titans (ships probably on the same scale as today's titans @ approx 15 km in length) put so much strain on the resources of the empires that they nearly depleted their resources in doing so (even the mighty Amarr empire). So if this is true, then how can there be so many massive stations per system? Scale is a problem for Lore, but if you are developing a game like EVE, scale and accurate perception has to make way for game mechanics.
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        |  Alavaria Fera
 GoonWaffe
 Goonswarm Federation
 
 3943
 
 
       | Posted - 2013.08.01 13:34:00 -
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 Little Dragon Khamez wrote:Eve is full of planck containers, that are bigger on the inside than the outside, the stations are the same. That's why you cant put one cargo container inside another if assembled. 
 Medium Secure Container Capacity 390m3, volume 325m3 assembled, 33m3 packaged. I haven't read anything specific saying that this applies to stations so if it's anything it's only extrapolated lore because the containers do exist.
 But you can put cargo containers inside stations...
 There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
 
 "Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013
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        |  Wolf Kruol
 Destructive Influence
 Northern Coalition.
 
 26
 
 
       | Posted - 2013.08.01 13:35:00 -
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 Lee Hekard wrote:Aaaaaactually, according to lore, the stations are too big imo. For example, if you read up on the development of the Titans (like all the cool kids do), then the lore states that building the first titans (ships probably on the same scale as today's titans @ approx 15 km in length) put so much strain on the resources of the empires that they nearly depleted their resources in doing so (even the mighty Amarr empire). So if this is true, then how can there be so many massive stations per system? Scale is a problem for Lore, but if you are developing a game like EVE, scale and accurate perception has to make way for game mechanics. 
 Because there mostly hollow for storage of ships and goods.
 
 But if its too much work for ccp maybe make the ships smaller might be easier? XD
 
 I'll live well with ether or changes.. .
  GÇ£If you're very very stupid? How can you possibly realize you're very very stupid?
 
 You have to be relatively intelligent to realize how stupid you really are!GÇ¥
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        |  Pr1ncess Alia
 Perkone
 Caldari State
 
 382
 
 
       | Posted - 2013.08.01 13:49:00 -
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 I agree, the size is a bit silly.
 
 If they tried to fix another issue (docking radius) at the same time it could be pretty cool.
 
 Imagine:
 
 -3x to 4x increase in station size
 
 -docking radius is a static sized sphere or block around the area where you get "spit out" on undock
 
 Maybe even tag the docking radius with visual beacons. It could be cool and would change the nature of on-station combat.
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        |  Plastic Psycho
 Necro-Economics
 
 226
 
 
       | Posted - 2013.08.01 14:40:00 -
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 Diesel47 wrote:Seetesh wrote:They are bigger on the inside as they use dimensional shrinkage technology. Is that a joke or the actual lore reason?  Because Time Lords.
 
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        |  Jove Death
 Red Dawn Mercenaries
 Whores in space
 
 31
 
 
       | Posted - 2013.08.01 14:42:00 -
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 Sarmatiko wrote:Because Jove. 
 
 HOW THE HELL IS IT MY FAULT!!
    
 
 Actually there designed on the tardis tech which obviously the Jove stole
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        |  Cal Stantson
 I.I.I
 
 60
 
 
       | Posted - 2013.08.01 14:56:00 -
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 The stations in EVE are actually pretty huge compared to most sci-fi. In fact the very large Caldari ones are not so far off Death Star dimensions.
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        |  Seven Koskanaiken
 EVE Corporation 987654321-POP
 The Marmite Collective
 
 323
 
 
       | Posted - 2013.08.01 15:00:00 -
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 So everything is within walking distance...
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        |  Muad 'dib
 The Imperial Fedaykin
 Amarrian Commandos
 
 1249
 
 
       | Posted - 2013.08.01 15:28:00 -
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 stealth "lets dock our supers now" troll thread 1/10
 Cosmic signature detected. . . .
 http://i.imgur.com/Z7NfIS6.jpg
 I got 99 likes, and this post aint one.
 
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        |  Stegas Tyrano
 GLU CANU
 Open Space Consultancy
 
 576
 
 
       | Posted - 2013.08.01 15:47:00 -
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 CCP should hold a design a station competition where players can submit their own player design's.
 Herping your derp since 19Potato --á[Proposal] - Ingame Visual Adverts
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        |  CMD Ishikawa
 Center for Advanced Studies
 Gallente Federation
 
 24
 
 
       | Posted - 2013.08.01 16:51:00 -
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 We have huge ships, stations should be larger than what they are right now.
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        |  Bischopt
 Arbitrary Repossession
 
 134
 
 
       | Posted - 2013.08.01 17:38:00 -
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 This is a pretty minor detail but it would be really cool if stations, planets and stars were bigger than they currently are.
 Especially stars have always been too small in EvE but then again, the rest of EvE isn't very realistic either so small planets, stars and stations aren't really a problem.
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        |  Alavaria Fera
 GoonWaffe
 Goonswarm Federation
 
 3951
 
 
       | Posted - 2013.08.01 21:52:00 -
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 Muad 'dib wrote:stealth "lets dock our supers now" troll thread 1/10 The amusing thing is some supercarriers look like they could fit.
 
 On the other hand, vertical ships like the Naflgar definitely look like they can't dock in their standard position. Which they can undock in, somehow.
 There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
 
 "Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013
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        |  Gogela
 Freeport Exploration
 Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
 
 2555
 
 
       | Posted - 2013.08.01 21:57:00 -
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 CMD Ishikawa wrote:We have huge ships, stations should be larger than what they are right now. This ^
 
 Scale is a problem. Here's hoping CCP realizes that. Back in the day I could see how frame rates dropping would be a problem were the scale of things what they should be. Today? Notsomuch.
 
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        |  Johan Civire
 The Lyran Empire
 
 616
 
 
       | Posted - 2013.08.01 22:00:00 -
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 Diesel47 wrote:I really try not to think of it.
 But the stations in this game are too small in comparison to the ships that are coming out of them.
 
 
 Why?
 
 Ok sounds fair but, its game. If you want reality we can all stop playing eve then. However agree the visual effect is wrong. I think to scale it will give some problems perhaps.... We will see if ccp will fixs the scaling of those stations.
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        |  Lipbite
 Express Hauler
 
 728
 
 
       | Posted - 2013.08.02 00:03:00 -
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 I see stations which have 10-50km diameter - like huge megalopolises on present Earth. Considering they are 3D structures (unlike flat 2D cities) their population could be in hundreds of millions. Can't call these "small".
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        |  WASPY69
 Papercut Syndicate
 Nuclear Arms Exchange
 
 20
 
 
       | Posted - 2013.08.03 09:30:00 -
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 I always thought the same. Stations seem rather small compared to the ships and hangars. especially the Amarr and Gallente hangars. Those seem gigantic on the inside, but on the outside they sometimes wouldn't even fit, given the station geometry.
 But then again it's a design issue. Imagine if everything was scaled realistically. And imagine ship maintenance arrays... POS's would need to be HUGE! The bubble Diameter would be something up in the 15,000+ kilometer range... sooo yeah.
 Station size is fine to be honest. I mean I wouldn't mind realistic scales, but at the moment it's not something that's bothering me.
 Oh and one more thing. If i recall correctly, they showed something at fanfest that was some concept of animated hangars (the docking part) where you could visually see your ship fly in and dock (think, "Flying in stations") and if that's being worked on, the logical thing would be to scale up the stations accordingly.
 One can only hope. But seeing as EVE keeps getting additions and improvements, I'd say this all might happen Soon(TM).
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        |  Little Dragon Khamez
 Guardians of the Underworld
 White Mountain Coalition
 
 295
 
 
       | Posted - 2013.08.03 09:37:00 -
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 Perhaps it's time for the biggest ships to actually dock outside the station and as such get access to station services remotely though be under the protection of the station's shield, at least you could see what's going on outside.
 Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction...
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        |  Melissa Turner
 The Bene Gesserit
 Sanctuary Pact
 
 15
 
 
       | Posted - 2013.08.03 09:41:00 -
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 Stegas Tyrano wrote:CCP should hold a design a station competition where players can submit their own player design's. 
 
 good idea maybe they'll include oh lets say things like WORKING DOORS! or actual places to walk to instead of up and down a ramp looking at a 3 panel flatscreen, a mirror, a bed which you cant lay on, or perhaps add a toilet or a kitchen or how about a pilot's lounge where folks can actually sit on the same couch and cross their legs. instead we have detention centers or single cell prisons. /fix captain quarters.. how about a nice garage allowing the player to select up to 2 or 3 of their own ships to accompany the main one left spinning. idea's! fresh idea's..
 
 while they're at it give me a dust pistol and a holster cause im going to freak out the day that door panel turns green and someone or anything walks thru it.
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        |  Diesel47
 Bad Men Ltd.
 
 851
 
 
       | Posted - 2013.08.03 09:43:00 -
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 Lipbite wrote:I see stations which have 10-50km diameter - like huge megalopolises on present Earth. Considering they are 3D structures (unlike flat 2D cities) their population could be in hundreds of millions. Can't call these "small". 
 
 Doesn't change the fact it looks stupid that huge ships come out of such a tiny station.
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        |  GreenSeed
 
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       | Posted - 2013.08.03 09:54:00 -
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 they used to be even smaller
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        |  Alice Saki
 Mind Games.
 Suddenly Spaceships.
 
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       | Posted - 2013.08.03 10:23:00 -
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 It's Pixels? ^_^
 
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        |  ZeeWolf Novus
 Coreli Corporation
 Ineluctable.
 
 27
 
 
       | Posted - 2013.08.03 10:31:00 -
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 Diesel47 wrote:I really try not to think of it.
 But the stations in this game are too small in comparison to the ships that are coming out of them.
 
 
 Why?
 
 You think they are small now? You should have seen them before Trinity....
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        |  Lephia DeGrande
 Luxembourg Space Union
 
 17
 
 
       | Posted - 2013.08.03 11:30:00 -
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 Limit the amount m3 a Station can handle like, Mass and WH.
 
 I would love to see what would happens in Jita.
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        |  Diesel47
 Bad Men Ltd.
 
 855
 
 
       | Posted - 2013.08.03 12:05:00 -
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 Alice Saki wrote:It's Pixels? ^_^ 
 Ya you are right.
 
 We might aswell just stop all V3ing of ships and revert back to pre-trinity textures/models.
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        |  Aidan Brooder
 Dynasphere Ltd.
 
 418
 
 
       | Posted - 2013.08.03 13:06:00 -
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 Lephia DeGrande wrote:Limit the amount m-¦ a Station can handle like, Mass and WH. 
 I would love to see what would happens in Jita.
 
 The monument would be shot at... A lot...
 
 Also we'd need new AI text:
 
 "You cannot dock because there are other space parasites blocking all docking bays."
 "I can't ask for docking rights for the same station twice. They'd think I'm stupid."
 
 A whole new scam sector would emerge:
 "Yeah, I'll remove one of my 12 freighter alts from this station you have all your stuff parked one for only 1B!"
 
 Progress!
 Blog: http://aidanbrooder.wordpress.com
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        |  Pr1ncess Alia
 Perkone
 Caldari State
 
 383
 
 
       | Posted - 2013.08.03 13:15:00 -
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 Alavaria Fera wrote:Muad 'dib wrote:stealth "lets dock our supers now" troll thread 1/10 The amusing thing is some supercarriers look like they could fit. On the other hand, vertical ships like the Naflgar definitely look like they can't dock in their standard position. Which they can undock in, somehow. 
 
 Eve patch notes:
 
 All Caldari Supercapitals are now able to dock in stations.
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        |  Icarus Able
 Traverse Holdings
 
 57
 
 
       | Posted - 2013.08.03 15:45:00 -
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 Maybe increase the Trade hub stations. The others dont really need increasing.
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        |  King Aires
 Coffee Sipper's Club
 Biggby Coffee Fan Club
 
 31
 
 
       | Posted - 2013.08.03 15:57:00 -
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 It's not the size of the station... it's how you use it.
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        |  coolzero
 Mortis Angelus
 WHY so Seri0Us
 
 90
 
 
       | Posted - 2013.08.03 16:13:00 -
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 try to figure out the magic of a jetcan!!!!
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        |  Lazy Eagle
 FUITA
 Eternal Syndicate
 
 0
 
 
       | Posted - 2013.08.03 17:57:00 -
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 Hey, CCP, Why!?; Why you throw chip!??
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        |  Phoenix Jones
 Shockwave Innovations
 Surely You're Joking
 
 144
 
 
       | Posted - 2013.08.05 18:01:00 -
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 Malcanis wrote:Diesel47 wrote:I really try not to think of it.
 But the stations in this game are too small in comparison to the ships that are coming out of them.
 
 
 Why?
 "Small" is a relative term. Those big caldari stations (like Jita 4-4) are hundreds of cubic kilometres in volume. 
 
 Oddly enough the main tradehub stations (Jita Amarr, Rens, Dodixie, Hek, etc), main station should probably be about 3x the size they are at the moment.
 
 
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        |  Unsuccessful At Everything
 The Troll Bridge
 
 5553
 
 
       | Posted - 2013.08.05 18:45:00 -
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 It seems like CCP could easily squash these threads by simply changing all station models to blue Police Boxes.
 Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
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        |  Vincent Athena
 V.I.C.E.
 Aegis Solaris
 
 2078
 
 
       | Posted - 2013.08.05 21:05:00 -
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 Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:It seems like CCP could easily squash these threads by simply changing all station models to blue Police Boxes. I don't care how much room there is on the other side of the Blue Police Box doors, you still cannot fit a Dominix through them.
 http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/
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        |  Suicidal Blonde
 Alchemical Aquisitions
 
 55
 
 
       | Posted - 2013.08.05 21:50:00 -
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 There is a fish eye effect on eve. Can be adjusted by shift ctrl both mouse buttons and side to side mouse movement.
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        |  Herzog Wolfhammer
 Sigma Special Tactics Group
 
 3262
 
 
       | Posted - 2013.08.05 22:02:00 -
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 The "bag of holding" feature (those of you who know what that is go clip your nose hairs) of stations is gamebreaking.
 
 Time to start limiting the docking bays and storage rates.
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        |  Chris Winter
 Zephyr Corp
 V.A.S.T.
 
 179
 
 
       | Posted - 2013.08.05 22:36:00 -
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 The stations are actually massive. Try zooming out, you'll see that the station is a significant fraction of the size of the moon it's orbiting. Now imagine something the size of that station orbiting our moon.
 
 Yeah.
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        |  Diesel47
 Bad Men Ltd.
 
 870
 
 
       | Posted - 2013.08.05 23:52:00 -
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 Chris Winter wrote:The stations are actually massive. Try zooming out, you'll see that the station is a significant fraction of the size of the moon it's orbiting. Now imagine something the size of that station orbiting our moon.
 Yeah.
 
 Compared to the ships coming out though, it doesn't look right.
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        |  Mycool Jahksn
 Viziam
 Amarr Empire
 
 9
 
 
       | Posted - 2013.08.06 05:29:00 -
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 IMO there should be ONE neutral system somewhere with an extremely large station in it, like a space "Coruscant" of EVE if you will.
 
 A station so large that even supercaps can dock there.
 Teonosude.
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