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sonofollo
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Posted - 2005.12.19 11:50:00 -
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level 4 manufacturing agents low sec - my source and they are regular yehaba - imperial constructions aridia region
Combat agents also aridia region - sadana - ministry of war
Im guessing youre trying high sec R.A.M and D.db drops are much less often than those im getting in low sec. 1 out of evry 5 missions out there.
Solution well enough said. If u dont wanna come out at least come and buy my well stocked sell orders i have gone at reasonable prices
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sonofollo
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Posted - 2005.12.19 11:55:00 -
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i will have lots for sale at reasonable prices if u want em come to aridia if not meh someone wil buy em
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sonofollo
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Posted - 2005.12.19 12:08:00 -
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thats what i said in my origianl post level 4 courier missions - if youre to lazy to do em come to yehaba and ill sell em to u around market regional ive got enough not to jack price up 3000% they start from 20,000 = 30,000 ISK for each one much less than the old 500,000 ISK each allowing cheaper prices
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sonofollo
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Posted - 2005.12.19 12:10:00 -
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im in low sec and ... im selling them on market - hey i might just build a stockpile and let the orders build up im sure low sec t2 producers will make good use of em at cheaper prices then allow them to sell t2 stuff in empire at a bigger profit
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sonofollo
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Posted - 2005.12.19 21:00:00 -
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us mission runnners will bring out our supplies when prices go up and as they go up we will attempt to stabilise prices.
If tech 2 weapon costs go up then its not a big issue with the 0.0 inflation those out there can afford to pay a bit more or also use factional items which are also in good supply.
Supply is sufficent via agents if more use em - everyone is so focused on combat missions and not courier missions CCP did say they would give a boost to manufacturing - marketing agents and they have NPC trading and courier are just as valid in the game.
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sonofollo
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Posted - 2005.12.19 21:10:00 -
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a big problem is their margins - normally they buy and build near jita etc - no effort and instant ISK. Well u are going to have to travel to low sec to pick em up (my selling out here) CCP have stated that regionalisation of some higher end items will require inter regional trade. Adding more ingame abilites for couriers etc.
If u would like speficic modules evemail "ollobrains" in game and ill see what i can dig up for u in mission terms. But yes lower profit margins for t2 producers is about time. There will be more courier type mission runners who can make a profit - i may slowly raise my prices depends on demand. If u whiners want it come and get em they are in low sec in reasonable demand
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sonofollo
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Posted - 2005.12.19 21:15:00 -
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lets look at it supply has been boosted - its just that those seeking the supply havent tweaked as to what to do to get reasonable demands - if youre in a corp get youre corp mates to start doing courier missions in low sec (manufacturing agents) are the ones - yehaba is the hub for the Lv 4 +20Q - im the only one running them missions and hence in amarr looks like im goign to be a main supplier almost as good as a t2 BPO really. Well guys 2 choices either put up with lower supply - buy it off me (prices will be staggered to guage demand) - u could always take a ISK generating opportunity and hire someone to come run the missions as well.
Either that or prices go up - ccp have done what they have stated certain items available from certain sources namely in low sec to begin the exodus.
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sonofollo
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Posted - 2005.12.19 22:35:00 -
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well if prices start to rise for the RAM and D.DB modules u will find more agent runners will start to do it as ISK goes up - a balance will be struck (if prices go high enough less combat and more courier agent runners will begin) there is a bit of a disconnect until "us" agent runners as u put it can get supply back up. We are working on it and spreading prices around as we go - t2 producers might need to seek us out and sign supply deals with us im sure that can be arranged. Everyone gets a cut of the pie that way.
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sonofollo
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Posted - 2005.12.19 22:38:00 -
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well in terms of modules for ships factional items are always an option - they havent choked supply supply is there but the amount of courier - hauling agent runners is very low. Hence supply is weak - stop the whining and just run some transport missions or get a corp to do it for u. The money is now there CCP want more ppl doing non combat missions and hence this is the result also ties in with t2 construction.
U guys cant get it NOW and slightly higher prices and lower profit margins are killing u so its easier to say gimme gimme gimme supply now instead of going and getting it from a very easy source yorue selfs - why are u lot so lazy ?
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sonofollo
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Posted - 2005.12.19 22:51:00 -
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 Originally by: Leowen
Edited by: Leowen on 19/12/2005 22:48:29
RAMs ARE dropping, I've had 2 chars running Level 4 Manufacturing agent missions for Kaalakiota (**hint for anyone wanting to find RAM's  **) for 2 days now. In all that time I've had a grand total of 2 RAM drops, for 65 RAMs total.
CCP need to do the math on RAM drop-rate versus RAM demand for sustaining T2 production and balance it. Much as I love you guys I'm thinking this one slipped through the net in the recent chaos.
Freighters ftw in LVL 4 hauler missions 
I know the ones u mean they are high sec agents - low sec imperial constructions yehaba , gens and maseera - missions done 25 RAM drops 10 out of 25 missions total ram dropped - close on 730 units (thats in the last 24 hours)
Rewards are better still with npc 0.0 regions like syndicate and outer ring etc.
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sonofollo
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Posted - 2005.12.19 22:54:00 -
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Originally by: Orilion
Hi guys,
I totaly understand all of your complains as my corp mates are also suffering form lack or RAM¦s, however, i have seen considerable increase in their drop rate. Well, at least when it comes to my lvl3 agent.
Before RMR, he used to give 4-7 RAM¦s as a reward every now and then, but after patch i have received on several occasions 12-15 RAM¦s, including weapons ram, starship, robotics and etc...
Give it some time and they should find their way to production facilities, but given the rapid increase in buy orders prices, it can lead to stockpiling of the same in anticipation of further price increase.
So, to sum it up: The RAM drops did indeed increase and if the producers stop the buying frenzy, market should settle soon.
Best of luck to all :)
If i can get into the game i am supplying the aridia region with these things - at a reasonable cost - selling 60% of what i get and stockpiling the other 40% to see how prices pan out - if they start rising i will put smaller higher value orders up as well.
Most t2 producing corps wont come to low sec so i guess that supply will stay there for a while while the rest whine about it or not run hauling missions
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sonofollo
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Posted - 2005.12.19 22:56:00 -
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Originally by: Deja Thoris
Originally by: sonofollo
Originally by: Leowen
Edited by: Leowen on 19/12/2005 22:48:29
RAMs ARE dropping, I've had 2 chars running Level 4 Manufacturing agent missions for Kaalakiota (**hint for anyone wanting to find RAM's **) for 2 days now. In all that time I've had a grand total of 2 RAM drops, for 65 RAMs total.
CCP need to do the math on RAM drop-rate versus RAM demand for sustaining T2 production and balance it. Much as I love you guys I'm thinking this one slipped through the net in the recent chaos.
Freighters ftw in LVL 4 hauler missions
I know the ones u mean they are high sec agents - low sec imperial constructions yehaba , gens and maseera - missions done 25 RAM drops 10 out of 25 missions total ram dropped - close on 730 units (thats in the last 24 hours)
Rewards are better still with npc 0.0 regions like syndicate and outer ring etc.
Ollo,
Saying the same this 70 times acheives nothing.
WE GET YOUR POINT, there are agents out there that drop RAM's. Of course Yehaba is the centre of the trade universe too...
Deja good u get the point but there are a few that still dont get it. its not the center there are other R.A.M drops in each region im just speaking from personal experience - its a counter to the whiners who wanna increase supply in jita from NPC sources - laziness is what it is.
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sonofollo
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Posted - 2005.12.19 23:02:00 -
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Originally by: Danton Marcellus
Make it so that some a destroyed yet some can be salvaged and repaired, not render all useless to counter them all being repaired before, overnerf, again.
bad idea mmmkay they need to run out - renewing supply is needed to keep the mission runners happy - t2 producers on reasonable profit margins and the eve economy ticking over - since we keep getting booted cant do the missions that supply the ram but otherwise its quite a balanced solution. The main whiners are t2 producers who will have to eitehr a) source em from mission runners b) do some missions themselves c) lower margins d) higher prices. e) whine about it and waste more time
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sonofollo
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Posted - 2005.12.20 00:31:00 -
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curretn system is fine as it is - just run more transport missions or the price rises might cut t2 producer margins but that is a long time coming esp with tech 3 stuff coming soon
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sonofollo
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Posted - 2005.12.20 02:14:00 -
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ok so if supply is increased R.A.M chips go back to being worthelss yeah i guess everyone can work with that.
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sonofollo
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Posted - 2005.12.20 02:19:00 -
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id say drop the drop rate of science advanced skillbooks and boost the RAM drops (ie more of em more often) via these agents - no doubt will balance i think CCp will eventually look at it
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sonofollo
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Posted - 2005.12.20 02:46:00 -
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there is only a perceived bottleneck - as more mission runners get these assets (only just back in) they will boost the market. Could be a few weeks but those of us on this side of the fence running missions are doing our best to reseed at resonable prices R.A.M and D.Db chips
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sonofollo
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Posted - 2005.12.20 11:00:00 -
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which is loss leading using high volumes no margin (but using bounties to subsidized losses) in high sec areas around jita *t1 profits are makeable in low sec and 0.0 NPC regions as well. As long as u sell something that isnt native to that region (railguns in amarr space) missiles in minmatar and amarr space - lasers in calderi and gallente
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sonofollo
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Posted - 2005.12.20 11:24:00 -
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well i think as t2 supply dries up more use will be made of t1 ships. Will have to wait and see i think CCp are taking a wait and see approach if supply is insufficent then R.A.M might drop more often.
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sonofollo
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Posted - 2005.12.20 18:57:00 -
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in the meantime i think i will terminate all my unneeded r.a.m stuff at a reasonable price
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sonofollo
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Posted - 2005.12.27 23:29:00 -
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well guys come for a trip to aridia region u will see hundreds of each type on the market for sale at reasonable prices - no they arent on escrow they are on the regional market so u will need to come check them out - there are no supply side problems out here i have had 100s of each type sitting here for days unsold unmoved and at the low end of the cost structur less than 50-100k ISK price range.
No i wont deliver yes its low sec but if u want em they are easy enough with a corp scout to deliver back to youre empire manufacturing slots
Thta is all - btw CCP have upped the standard mission payout where RAMs are dropped from 50-60 on level 4 missions up to 80-90. SO that has boosted supply just the jita careebras havent figured out where to find em yet - CCP is now boosting the attractiveness of low sec
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sonofollo
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Posted - 2006.01.03 11:54:00 -
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well my supply is running off the market but RAM chips remain in the location so i guess its time to start using escrow to make the global audience aware of their location.
Ive noticed that RAM drops have actually started to decrease replaced by more ISK also by more warp scrambelrs - small armour reppers and medium pulse lasers. Pushing up the cost of t2 is a good idea actually might bring down the price of tech 2 BPOs in the long run if they arent able to be used as much
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sonofollo
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Posted - 2006.01.03 12:27:00 -
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Yeah demand and supply will go up no doubt once CCP make some tweaks.
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sonofollo
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Posted - 2006.01.05 09:47:00 -
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supply is up im selling all my RAMs quickly whats the problem
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sonofollo
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Posted - 2006.01.07 11:53:00 -
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well the issues have been addressed elsewhere nad perhaps the current system re agent drops will remain though with the patch perhaps a higher output - but even that is unknown.
The current system works as CCP intended ie regionalisation and at least 1 t2 element from agents the rest from POS.. Thats whats happening what is the big issue
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