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Shemar	Posted - 2005.12.19 15:51:00 - [1] This is not an official GLS responce, I am expressing personal views... I always make sure that any Photesthetics products that are not suitable for children are clearly marked as such in the packaging, any related marketing material and even within the product, wherever appropriate and possible. I believe that the rest of the GLS also follows that practice. Furthermore, not only do I have no desire to provide adult material to children, but I would strongly advise both outlets and parents against it. Therefore I see no reason why a fair and reasonable rating system would be undesirable. Trembling hands or nerves of steel, someone tell me what to feel. GLS Forums
Shemar	Posted - 2005.12.19 19:00:00 - [2] I have a question for PIE Inc... Assuming there actually is a ratings system, do you plan to request that all material classified as 'adult only' be illegal in the Empire and only allow those that are suitable for children? Do you really have such a low opinion of the decision making ability of the Amarr citizens? Or, rather, are you really so afraid that the Amarr citizens may actually have a decision making ability? Trembling hands or nerves of steel, someone tell me what to feel. GLS Forums
Shemar	Posted - 2005.12.19 19:40:00 - [3] Originally by: Rodj Blake I could say exactly the same thing about dangerous drugs. Do you think that crash should be legal because anyone with a good decision making ability will avoid it anyway? Do you really think that anyone wanting to use crash has any serious deterrent from doing so because it is illegal? Making it illegal only succeeds in black market profiteering, criminal activity and tax income loss. And before you ask, no I have never used any illegal substance, but that is a personal health choice, not one dictated by law (I have spent time in places where law does not exist anyway). This is a personal opinion, by the way. I do not speak for anyone else. Originally by: Rodj Blake At the end of the day, decent people do not want filth around them in the same way as they don't want drugs. If this sort of depraved holovid were legal, no doubt foreigners in the Empire would display it openly, thus offending the upright Imperial subjects. Should I take this as a yes? Do you think that the only material that should be "adult only" is sexual in nature? How about a very realistic and very truthful documentary of the 'first encounter' between Amarr and Matari? How about a holoreel showing how your empire deals with heretics? Are these subjects you would deem appropriate for children to watch? Or probably not want to allow even adults to watch... Trembling hands or nerves of steel, someone tell me what to feel. GLS Forums
Shemar	Posted - 2005.12.19 22:04:00 - [4] Originally by: Malthros Zenobia The Amarr won't sell it to anyone, because such pathetic films are not allowed in their Empire. If they order 50 units of holofilms, and half of them are adult vids, then they've just lost quite a bit of possible profit. The Gallente selling such film to the Amarr shows that they have no respect for the laws of other empires. Not suprising really. What a ridiculous notion, that just because the bulk freight is classified as 'holoreels' for customs inspection purposes, the actual buyer does not know exactly what they are buying. What we ship is precisely what the buyer ordered. Nothing more, nothing less. Trembling hands or nerves of steel, someone tell me what to feel. GLS Forums
Shemar	Posted - 2005.12.19 22:33:00 - [5] Originally by: Vendrin The Amarr Empire is free to establish what is legal and illegal to be brought into their borders. At the Caldari's States request they do not bring slave labour into Caldari borders. I do not feel it is to much to ask that if the Amarr wish to have these items classified as illegal. Let them, and cease the transportation of this material into their borders. Anything else would merely cause tension between goverments and corporations that could have been avoided. I of course cannot speak for everyone, but I assure you that the GLS is not in the business of violating laws. If our products do get classified as illegal we will stop direct sales in Amarr territory of products classified as such. As of this moment, none of the GLS products are classified as such, regardless of what a band of paramilitary fanatics will have you believe. Trembling hands or nerves of steel, someone tell me what to feel. GLS Forums
Shemar	Posted - 2005.12.19 22:45:00 - [6] Originally by: Ethidium Bromide this is an issue of abusing the term "religious material" to import otherwise illegal goods into the empire to undermine the moral of the amarr citizens. This is a completely false assumption and I have explained it enough times here. So why do I bother? Well, since you are obviously referring to my GLS Calendar product, I see no reason not to shamelessly use all the publicity you PIE boys are throwng my way and promote my product. And for the wonderful opportunity you gave me, you also make the lucky list of those that get a free Calendar. Have a lovely day. Trembling hands or nerves of steel, someone tell me what to feel. GLS Forums
Shemar	Posted - 2005.12.20 14:56:00 - [7] Originally by: Rodj Blake But does so-called erotica really sell within the Empire? Outside of a few bootleg holovids sold to mostly non-Amarrian pilots by the filth merchants of the GLS, how much is really sold? If that is the case then why all the fuss? Trembling hands or nerves of steel, someone tell me what to feel. GLS Forums
Shemar	Posted - 2005.12.20 21:00:00 - [8] Originally by: Rodj Blake Because even just one disgusting holoreel is one disgusting holoreel too many. So are you saying there is nothing better to do with PIE Inc. resources and manpower than chasing after a (very small by your accounts) number of holoreels? Trembling hands or nerves of steel, someone tell me what to feel. GLS Forums
Shemar	Posted - 2005.12.20 21:22:00 - [9] Originally by: Vendrin And you are saying there is nothing better for GLS to do except for to continue to instigate tension with the Amarr Empire and transport what are illegal items considered by the Empire, even if not by Concord? I have never had any problems trasporting our products to Amarr stations and selling them to local merchants. No Amarr customs official ever stopped me. Looking up our products categories and their legality in Amarr, I see them as perfectly legal. I suggest you at least make an effort to research facts first in the future. Trembling hands or nerves of steel, someone tell me what to feel. GLS Forums
Shemar	Posted - 2005.12.20 21:25:00 - [10] Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari I just want to state that I am very upset with GLS. Loyal, reliable consumers of p*rnography like me are being neglected so that you can bicker with PIE personally. Don't worry, we'll handle this. You go do your job, and we'll do ours. I assure you that you are not being neglected. New products are in the works as we speak. I think the upcoming 3-part feature "Prisoners of Lust" will be of special interest to you Trembling hands or nerves of steel, someone tell me what to feel. GLS Forums
Shemar	Posted - 2005.12.20 22:14:00 - [11] Originally by: Rodj Blake You may see your products as perfectly legal, but then producers of far worse also see their merchandise as perfectly legal. Just because customs officers are unable to determine if the contents of your holoreels are legal, it does not follow that they actually are legal. You will excuse me if I do not take your word over my official product legality list on what is legal and what is not. Until such time that any of our products, specifically or by category, are declared as illegal by the authorities, they are legal. That is all there is to it. Trembling hands or nerves of steel, someone tell me what to feel. GLS Forums
Shemar	Posted - 2005.12.21 21:27:00 - [12] Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari That sounds great, any chance of a preview? I wouldn't want to be accused of derailing this topic You can find advanced information about upcoming products here. Offering previews is a good idea, I will recommend it Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari And how did you know I like long epics? It was a guess. You sound like someone that likes good entertainment in large quantities! Trembling hands or nerves of steel, someone tell me what to feel. GLS Forums

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