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Ecnav	Posted - 2005.12.19 20:12:00 - [1] Me and a buddy killed a cruiser December 18, 2005. I logged in December 19 for a skill update and found that the man I killed STILL had kill rights on me... Is this right? http://www.farstrider.de/hirr/EVE/signatures/ecnavsig.png Signature filesize exceeds max limit of 24000 bytes. mail us if you have questions -Garik Daemon
FiGHT XZen	Posted - 2005.12.19 20:38:00 - [2] think its for a month, no+?
Corvus Dove	Posted - 2005.12.19 20:56:00 - [3] AFAIK, the kill rights last a month. It's the can flagging that only lasts 15 minutes. ----------------------------------------------- MAKE THE MACROERS SCREAM
Black 1	Posted - 2005.12.19 22:56:00 - [4] Its a month, dont think ya geting outta killing people that easily
Sacred Badger	Posted - 2005.12.19 23:47:00 - [5] I have noticed of the 5 ships I killed recently I only have 3 Kill Rights against me. (And yes it was 5 different pilots) Also not received the -2.0% sec hit for killing 2 of the ships even though they definately blew up... Any ideas?
Berilac	Posted - 2005.12.19 23:50:00 - [6] Edited by: Berilac on 19/12/2005 23:51:00 a month? Uggh. So, now not only do pirates have to face dangerious conditions, attacking unknown peoples ships where it could easely be a trap, groups dedicated solely to their destruction, concord, sentry guns, and people out for their revenge, but if you kill more than a few people a week, you can get hordes that can attack you with no repercussions for a month? Forgive me for saying this, but this has been taken this too far. There is no counter-kill rights item that has been introduced for the pirates benifit.
Soulis	Posted - 2005.12.19 23:50:00 - [7] Originally by: Sacred Badger I have noticed of the 5 ships I killed recently I only have 3 Kill Rights against me. (And yes it was 5 different pilots) Also not received the -2.0% sec hit for killing 2 of the ships even though they definately blew up... Any ideas? did u get the final blow? Originally by: Kerosene PVP is 50% setup, 20% skills, 20% balls and 10% forum horsing.
Aaronus	Posted - 2005.12.19 23:51:00 - [8] Is that for a ship going pop or podkill, I knew nothing about month long kill rights, so they can attack you anywhere?
Sacred Badger	Posted - 2005.12.19 23:51:00 - [9] Yes. These were all 1 vs 1's.
Sacred Badger	Posted - 2005.12.19 23:59:00 - [10] Thats for either afaik.
MWEI	Posted - 2005.12.20 00:09:00 - [11] Quote: There is no counter-kill rights item that has been introduced for the pirates benifit. Why should someone who lives outside the law enjoy the law's benifit?
O Thief	Posted - 2005.12.20 00:22:00 - [12] Originally by: Berilac Edited by: Berilac on 19/12/2005 23:51:00 a month? Uggh. So, now not only do pirates have to face dangerious conditions, attacking unknown peoples ships where it could easely be a trap, groups dedicated solely to their destruction, concord, sentry guns, and people out for their revenge, but if you kill more than a few people a week, you can get hordes that can attack you with no repercussions for a month? Forgive me for saying this, but this has been taken this too far. There is no counter-kill rights item that has been introduced for the pirates benifit. You appear to be somewhat missing the point. The phrase 'eye for an eye' is used in relation to these kill rights for a very good reason. The pirates benefit from the orginal ship kill, the victim benefits from the opportunity to seek their revenge. I don't see an issue outside of this.
Corvus Dove	Posted - 2005.12.20 00:25:00 - [13] Originally by: Soulis Originally by: Sacred Badger I have noticed of the 5 ships I killed recently I only have 3 Kill Rights against me. (And yes it was 5 different pilots) Also not received the -2.0% sec hit for killing 2 of the ships even though they definately blew up... Any ideas? did u get the final blow? Actually it sounds like two of them probably tried to log out to avoid losing. If CCP thought to code that as forfeiting I4I rights, mad props to CCP! ----------------------------------------------- MAKE THE MACROERS SCREAM
Kerosene	Posted - 2005.12.20 03:01:00 - [14] Originally by: Sacred Badger I have noticed of the 5 ships I killed recently I only have 3 Kill Rights against me. (And yes it was 5 different pilots) Also not received the -2.0% sec hit for killing 2 of the ships even though they definately blew up... Any ideas? Did your drones lay the final blow maybe? __ No corp - Taking it easy for a bit
HUGO DRAX	Posted - 2005.12.20 03:21:00 - [15] Originally by: Berilac Edited by: Berilac on 19/12/2005 23:51:00 a month? Uggh. So, now not only do pirates have to face dangerious conditions, attacking unknown peoples ships where it could easely be a trap, groups dedicated solely to their destruction, concord, sentry guns, and people out for their revenge, but if you kill more than a few people a week, you can get hordes that can attack you with no repercussions for a month? Forgive me for saying this, but this has been taken this too far. There is no counter-kill rights item that has been introduced for the pirates benifit. Hey whats the point of PvP if there is no hunt? so you get sucked into a shuttle pop trap. lol. hey if you do the crime. you have to be concerned with the posse holding guns and sticks with fires to light the night. How it was in the lawless west. Dont just complain, do something. Channel macrointel meet with likeminded folks, spottings,intel
Tybolt K'Nar	Posted - 2005.12.20 05:10:00 - [16] Originally by: Ecnav Me and a buddy killed a cruiser December 18, 2005. I logged in December 19 for a skill update and found that the man I killed STILL had kill rights on me... Is this right? Yep, it's very right Remember...watch your back...I'm sure they will be watching it to
Sacred Badger	Posted - 2005.12.20 08:07:00 - [17] Quote: Actually it sounds like two of them probably tried to log out to avoid losing. If CCP thought to code that as forfeiting I4I rights, mad props to CCP! That's just lame. Quote: Did your drones lay the final blow maybe? Possible, but I still got the killmails, just not the sec hit or the Kill Rights. I guess crimes can now go unsolved...
Richard Mnemonic	Posted - 2005.12.20 08:55:00 - [18] Originally by: Sacred Badger I have noticed of the 5 ships I killed recently I only have 3 Kill Rights against me. (And yes it was 5 different pilots) Also not received the -2.0% sec hit for killing 2 of the ships even though they definately blew up... Any ideas? Could it be that the person had negative security status? Or did the person engage first? Just guessing, but I think me and a buddy of mine have a similar situation. My buddy is not online now but I will ask him about a few kills he got the final blow on as well. -- Freaky Frigate Fighters is recruiting. All races and all experience levels are welcome to join. For more information checkout http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=26
Keta Min	Posted - 2005.12.20 08:56:00 - [19] the 2 ships didnt get kill rights on you because they shot back, thats also the reason the -2.0% sec hit did not happen.
Richard Mnemonic	Posted - 2005.12.20 09:27:00 - [20] Edited by: Richard Mnemonic on 20/12/2005 09:31:21 Originally by: Keta Min the 2 ships didnt get kill rights on you because they shot back, thats also the reason the -2.0% sec hit did not happen. Another guy who used drones on me got kill rights. -- Freaky Frigate Fighters is recruiting. All races and all experience levels are welcome to join. For more information checkout http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=26
Traxio Nacho	Posted - 2005.12.20 09:49:00 - [21] Originally by: Berilac Edited by: Berilac on 19/12/2005 23:51:00 a month? Uggh. So, now not only do pirates have to face dangerious conditions, attacking unknown peoples ships where it could easely be a trap, groups dedicated solely to their destruction, concord, sentry guns, and people out for their revenge, but if you kill more than a few people a week, you can get hordes that can attack you with no repercussions for a month? Forgive me for saying this, but this has been taken this too far. There is no counter-kill rights item that has been introduced for the pirates benifit. If your a full time -5.0 or lower pirate rather than a part time carebear one its not gonna make any difference is it.
Sacred Badger	Posted - 2005.12.20 10:05:00 - [22] Quote: the 2 ships didnt get kill rights on you because they shot back, thats also the reason the -2.0% sec hit did not happen. I never knew that... but that does make sense thinking about the kills. Thanks Keta.
Ephilia Emmett	Posted - 2005.12.20 11:59:00 - [23] Isnt the -2.0% for a podkill?
Kyle Caldrel	Posted - 2005.12.20 12:07:00 - [24] Originally by: Ephilia Emmett Isnt the -2.0% for a podkill? -15% think, dont remember exactly ******************************************************* What ya gonna do, when I come for you!?
MrMorph	Posted - 2005.12.20 12:12:00 - [25] podkill = -12,5% and pirates should be -5 or lower anyways, so killrights is futile. ---------------------------------------------- Latest video: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=230503
Sacred Badger	Posted - 2005.12.20 15:04:00 - [26] I only turned to the darkside 3 days ago... Give me a chance :P (Also a little off-topic but i'm looking for a pirate corp to join.... )
Bunny Wunny	Posted - 2005.12.20 15:16:00 - [27] does the month include people stealing from your cans?
Sacred Badger	Posted - 2005.12.20 16:35:00 - [28] No. It's 15minutes for ore theft, 1 month for a ship kill/podding (IF they don't retaliate) afaik.
Tecam Hund	Posted - 2005.12.20 17:00:00 - [29] A bit off topic, but I have a question. One day I fought against a gang of people. First time forced them to warp out. Then they come back several times, warp out when their ships become too damaged. Finally during the last run I managed to blow up one Ferox before he warps. Strangely enough I don't see his kill right (to kill me) in the list. Its possible that he attacked first, but I had a criminal tag; so I would think he still should have a right to kill me? Or is it just that I can't see other people's kill rights on my list?
maximyus	Posted - 2005.12.20 17:44:00 - [30] The reason u never got a sec hit is and no kil rights is that they fired back , if they fire back u don't get a sec hit and they don't get kill rights on my first day of rmr i got 9 kills and only went from -2.9 to -3.4 and that included blowing up 2 cans of ore and the only guy that got kill rights was a guy flying a hauler. im so pleased with rmr i was dreading another nerf but in my eyes this is an improvement well done ccp I likes Cookies and Boobies

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